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Does anyone know when these are due to be released?

The league should be given control of getting the tv deals and sponsorship, not the individual clubs My understanding is that the clubs arrange there own tv deals? If that’s not the case then I apologise as that’s how i understand it from reading the forum. I’m obviously not sure how the tv deals work in Greece but would it not be fair to just split say 50% of league sponsorship, the tv deal (and other revenue brought in by the league) evenly between the teams and then split the rest of the 50% depending on final league position?

HAHA let me know your seat number and I'll hand deliver it to you in Basel

I hope this is true as he sounds and looks decent. 11 caps for Brazil's U20's as well

JVC,, so because I have a different opinion then I am fake and I am a problem? Wow, thanks. Yes, i am from Scotland, does that mean my opinion is invalid because I have never been resident of Greece and don't speak fluent Greek? It is apparent that you lack any respect for my view because I am not Greek. I don’t care if you disagree with me or if you insult me but don’t treat me as inferior because I am not Greek. I have nothing personal against you but I will debate you. Is that not the point (in fact the very definition) of a forum.. to have a collection of different views that are expressed and discussed? I love that i have a place where i can discuss PAOK with other people from around the globe, plus i get a lot of invaluable information from this forum. so for you (JVC) to make out that i am trying to ruin/destroy it because i disagree with you is just ridiculous and very immature. Blackhawk if I have over stepped the mark in any way in my previous posts then I apologise.

Unsurprisingly, i have absolutely no idea what you are on about. PAO are slipping into obscurity, it must be painful for you to watch.

Labeling him a troll would be too kind and just give him an easy excuse for typing utter nonsense. Ah yes, that's right, the corrupt institution that is PAO is not benefiting from this and just doing it out of the kindness of their hearts

Cool story bro.. it changed my life . pay your f@cking money and shut up. Don’t get into debt in future and stop acting like paying back money that you never had is/was a good thing to happen. Sit back and enjoy PAOK taking the p1ss out of you for a while.. we are No.1 and you know it.. that’s why it hurts you so much and all you have is “we will pay our debts = we are relevant” hahahahaha pathetic.

If West Ham want leovac then we should tell them to get f@cked at that price. Times that by 10, then maybe we should talk. Premiership money is obscene and we need to start showing that we cannot be bought for peanuts.

I want to keep hold of warda.. but if we can cash in on the ‘World Cup inflation’ then we should take it. Plenty of options in that area

Come on guys stop poking fun at PAO.. the were once famous. They were once on tv in the uk back in 2003. hash tag ‘BIG TIME!!!’

My ignorance??? F@ck off back to your own forum you condescending pr1ck. You spam our forum with your paranoid and hypocritical ramblings. If you don’t want the rules to be applied then fine.. I don’t care, nor am I surprised. You and your Olympiacos brothers can enjoy each other. We are PAOK, the darkness from the north. μαζί εναντίον όλων

JVC believe me when I say that I would rather PAO stayed in the the top league so that you get to enjoy us winning. If you had been relegated then you would have said the only reason PAOK won the league is because PAO were not in it. Now you get to keep your front row seat to the main show... we are box office and you know it. My only bone of contention with you is that all season you have been whining about curruption and the need for rules to be applied fairly... yet now you are happy for the rules to be ignored and for exceptions made because PAO are a ‘big’ club in geece and have loads of fans. It’s hypocrisy at its worst and pretty shameful in my opinion.

Yeah, glad to see you are taking PAOK’s dominance well ?. “PAOK has done nothing” I know you don’t understand us but please don’t try to compare us to your glory hunting standards. People that think a clubs success reflects their life achievements or their character are just weird and a bit sad. One momment your for the rules being applied fairly and curruption being bad, but when it suits your club you are quite happy for the rules to be ignored and exceptions made.. for what?... money. You and Olympiakos truly are two cheeks of the same arse. Enjoy watching ice hockey in your ‘corruption free’ country and stop being so angry.

Can we just get one thing straight... wtf does the tv deal have to do with treating teams fairly??? I am talking about corruption, perceived bias, cheating, match fixing, having owners threatening referees at half time, paying off referees, threatening them and their families lives. Relegating ‘small’ teams but then when PAO does the same, POK try to change the rules to ensure that it doesn’t happen. People are sick and tired of the corruption, mismanagement of the whole set up and many Seem to have given up caring as it became pointles. If you are over the age of 8 then I struggle to believe you don’t understand that. Trying to understand your point of view about the tv money... So you are happy when their is corruption and bias in Greece, because if someone, or a certain club has money and power then they deserve special treatment? Anyway it seems pointless talking to you about this as you seem to think PAO deserve special treatment and I don’t. I will never change my opinion on that as I believe in fairness.

That's not what i meant and you know it. A start would be treating all teams the same and not based on how much revenue they make, number of fans etc. Maybe that will be help gain back some trust and stability. Can't believe that this is even a discussion point tbh :S Do you honestly believe that the super league is in a mess because PAO are crap? HAHA that's unreal.

I believe that those involved in the world cup will be holding out until after because if they perform well then their stock inflates dramatically. I think we tried to get Wernbloom tied up before the world cup for this very reason. Sadly my fear is that Prjo will probably go to England and we obviously wont be able to compete with that unless we can renegotiate a deal and convince him to have a crack at Europe in the CL.

Did you even read my post? The reason that the leagues in Scotland got stronger and attendances went up was because some justice was served. The new rangers had to start in the lowest league, money was distributed better, they brought a new attention to lower leagues etc. There was alsochink of hope that things might change. I will quote myself again so you can read what i wrote. "the level of arrogance you show when the mask slips is the attitude that enables and feeds the corruption, mismanagement, division, mistrust etc not just within Greek football but wider society." People don't trust the super league and EPO, they are sick and tired of the corruption and favoritism shown to Oly and PAO because you have more fans, richer, more powerful, corrupt owners. Why don't you understand this? The league is a mess because of the way your owners have have manipulated the system and rigged the game. You have the audacity to sit there and demand the rest of Greek football bends over backwards, changes the rules etc and be thankful for all your millions of fans? Get real you clown.

Jesus wept JVC... You really are an insufferable hypocrite. Why don't oly, aek and pao just go and play each other all year round and enjoy your love affair together? POK is an irremovable stain on your history and i would be utterly ashamed of it, had my club done similar. This the level of arrogance you show when the mask slips is the attitude that enables and feeds the corruption, mismanagement, division, mistrust etc not just within Greek football but wider society. We were told in Scotland that there would be "Armageddon" if the new rangers had to start in the bottom tier. Guess what? the opposite happened and the other teams got stronger and attendances went up across the country.

Are we sure he didn't have a sell on clause? Do we also know if this is even true and not just something his agent leaked to get interest in him or to negotiate better wages? It doesn't appear that money is an issue for Savvidis and also not what is required to lure the better players here... The biggest pull will be champions league football, winning titles, and to get in the "shop window" for the top sides in Europe.

Srna was only a year or two ago being chased by Barcelona, Man City etc. As has already been pointed out, Ivan has the cash, its a free transfer and the wage is small for a player of his caliber. He was one of the best right backs in the world not long ago with vast experience at the highest level. We need winners and people with that mentality to take us to the next level. I believe that for the younger players especially, his presence will be invaluable.

Surely he cannot view Biseswar as surplus to requirements? He is a hugely important player to this Club IMO. Srna surprised me until I read that he has been banned since September last year for a failed drugs test... A brilliant player and maybe with a hope of going far in all cup competitions as well as winning the league, it would be good to be able to rotate between two quality players in Matos and Srna. I imagine that he could probably play in a number of different positions as cover. His experience will be fantastic. As long as his drive and hunger to succeed is still there and that he has kept himself in good shape then i don't see an issue with this.

Sadly i didn't. My fiance doesn't ask anything of me but she asked (or rather pleaded) for me not to go just this once. She was worried i would be arrested, or worse, end up in hospital. Although every cell was screaming for me to be there.. i just couldn't put her through the worry so I decided that for once i would be sensible. I was absolutely gutted and so jealous when getting videos and messages from people i knew that were on there way down or already in Athens. I couldn't sleep at all on Friday night and was a nervous wreck leading up to KO. I have developed such a passion for this great club over the last 3 and a half years and I am not ashamed to admit that i had a tear or two in my eye when Vieirinha scored. All weekend I was out in Edinburgh with my Savvidis mask and PAOK fan club top, bursting with pride! Nothing can wipe the smile from my face.

Yeah my mistake, I thought Biseswar was up this June but its 2019 so I'm very happy with that. I think he's a class act and would be the first name on the team sheet for me.

If we can keep Prijovic, Pelkas and Biseswar for next season then i will be delighted.