Ellada2004

Well said, we need someone to emerge a vocal leader like Karagounis was a guy who left it all on the field and used his footballing smarts as well. Ive been saying it since he retired and ever since Greece lost on pk to Costa Rica at 2014 World Cup it seems like everything has gone sour for us. Bringing in Ranieri at that time I just knew he would not be right fit for us but I never expected us to be bottom of a group that was so winnable if not 2nd place looked like a lock. I love watching the Ethniki more than watching club football I remember the 1994 World Cup it was amazing to qualify and watch the team in the USA. Then the Euro run being so excited once we got to the quarters beat Zidane and France and then stunned the Checks and watching that final vs Portugal and Charisteas when he scored I couldn't believe it was an incredible time! Zagorakis lifting the Euro trophy one of the best moments ever!

Listening to Nova sports FM one of the analyst is ripping coach Ange for starting lineup with a mid consisting of Samaris ,Bouchalakis, and Zeca. He also couldn't understand why he gave a 1st cap to Lambropoulos and not calling up an in form Kolouris for this game with Mitroglou out of action and starting Karelis. Basically saying the coach approached this game like a friendly and should have tried to play our best lineup to get 2nd place in the group. All good points. When I got in just before kick off and saw the starting lineup I was like what??

At the begining of this tournament if someone would have told me that we would finish 3rd in this group I never would have believed it. How can we lose Estonia at home? Im just at a loss for words

This was the Faroes Islands game all over again 28 attempts to 4 and no goals and Estonia scores on an OG. Unreal..

No more Mantalos and Bakasetas PLEASE!

GAMOTO!!!

This lineup is not working!

WTF how are we losing this game!!!

So its confirmed? My God how could Greece be lumped in with the likes of San Marino, Malta, etc. What a friging huge disaster this has turned into since the 2016 Euro qualifying. Dam the EPO for not replacing Santos with a suitable coach and bringing the likes of Ranieri and Skibbe!! Im so pissed, gamoto!!!

Jimmy, if that's the case we will be in a very tough situation. As a pot 3 team we were trying to avoid a difficult Pot 2 team for example Switzerland or Italy. Now if we are in pot 4 we would have to avoid a good pot 3 team as well for example say Serbia who have played well over the last few years and qualified for the World Cup.

That's right La Mendel Skibbe totally messed everything up in that Finland game. A game where I believe Greece should have at least been able to pick up a draw and would have stayed close to Finland for top spot. The EPO should have fired him before the start of this tournament!

What is wrong with mitro?

Turkey have fallen of the map, they wont qualify for any tournament for along while. That's why they have been pushing so hard to host the Euro with multiple bids failing.

If we are in Pot 4 I will be extremely nervous for the draw.

In the Agonasports article it says we need to just secure 2nd place in the group to stay as a pot 3 team?

I hope I am wrong but Greece may never produce superstar offensive talents the likes of Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, etc. Greece due produce excellent defenders the likes of Manolas and Sokratis and Dellas back in the day. We had a great system in 2004 and we took down offensive titans like Portugal with Ronaldo, Figo, Deco, Pauleta, France with Zidane & Henry, Chzech Republic with Nedved, Koller, Baros etc. We need to play to our strength which is a strong focus first on defensive football and playing the best possible 11 at our disposal and also to stop playing players out of position. Greece certainly have a good pool of talent to draw from so that should not be an issue.

Mantalos has been disappointing especially recently. Bakasetas just doesn’t belong on the NT there are other players that replace him. I agree if Anastasiadis was at the helm at the start of the nations league Greece would have topped the group. I’m eager to see who we draw for Euro qualifiers and hope we get off to a good start.

Tough result, Austria scored in the 84th minute.

When we won at Cyprus 2-1 in 2018 World Cup qualifying and before that I believe when Greece beat Cyprus 2-0 in Athens.

Good points J1078 playing Bakasetas was the coach's only mistake but he came on for like 9 minutes. It's good that he started of with a win and a clean sheet, hopefully that can build some positive momentum for the Euro campaign. Going forward he shouldn't bother calling up mantalos he has been disappointing for the NT recently and going back to the last campaign were he missed a sitter to give us a win at Bosnia. My patience with Pelkas is wearing thin but if he goes with him I'm fine with it as long as he starts putting in better performances. I'm happy we don't have to see Tziolis & Tzavellas on the field anymore.

Koutris overall had a good game, just missed a few times to get a cross into the box.

Overall it was good to get a win. We dominated the possession but in the last 3rd the team is not crisp enough. Good to get a clean sheet again as well, zero shots on goal for Finland. Siovas was steady coming in for Manolas. Torosidis played well beautiful crosses into the box on many occasions, the guy plays with such passion. Zeca was winning so many 50/50 balls and his work rate is incredible game in and game out Mantalos and Pelkas most disappointing players overall. We need more from Fortounis he can be a game changer with his offensive skills but some matches he disappears.

Finland were garbage no shots on target and Touminen missed a couple great chances. Greece should have won this group but Skibbe screwed us up with the game in Finland.

Greece 1-0 Win but Finland gets top spot.

We held the ball rather well and moved it around better overall than what we were seeing under Skibbe. Mantalos had a wild off balance shot at the top of the box and his overall control and passing has been piss poor. Losing Manolas is a blow hopefully he will be fine.