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I think it’s fair to say most of us on here have some optimism after the team played two very good games against one great team and one good team..I also think it’s fair to say it’s not a surprise we played our best games without Manolas and Socrates which indicates me there mind set is a problem for the NT.. What happens now if we play our next two games like s%$#! does that mean the small sample size was just luck and we are back at square one when we thought we were headed in the right direction? I will be very disappointed and discouraged if we don’t come out and dominate in our last two games and get 6 points.. Hopefully JVS philosophy will keep working and keep making the team better and better each game as we prepare for a very difficult World Cup qualifications.. Let’s just hope JVS and the team can take it to the next level and this wasn’t just a one off that we played so well.

If we continue to improve under JVS I think I would keep Socrates, Manolas, off the time for a while as I don't want these guys coming in and disturbing the culture of the team and all the hard work JVS has done. Even though they are great players there attitudes might be a cancer in the dressing room. Its much easier to get young guys and a new team to buy into a system sometimes then veterans who play for big clubs and big coaches that might have egos. We have guys that can fill there roles who offer good pace. I personally would finish this entire qualification without them and only bring them back in a friendly leading up to the Nations leagues and see if it improves the team if not I say leave them off and move forward with a new core of players and new mentality..

He was late to the team meeting.. I like the fact that this coach will punish guys and make them countable...

I’m not sure if that’s the only thing required, I think Hungary Finland and either Serbia or Romania have to get in as well.. something like that as it needs to be a combination of things in order to get us in..

@Ellada2004 is talking about how a hockey First Nation like Finland fills the stadium during soccer and a soccer crazed country like Greece doesn’t fill the stadium when the NT plays.. His point is when Finland were playing bad soccer they would still fill the stadium as most countries do, as the NT should always get support.. I’m from toronto and the leafs have been s%$#! for years before they started improving yet the stadium was always filled to the tits.. I do think the Greek mentally is if the team is s%$#! don’t support and will only start to come when there is a winning product on the field which is not right... playing in this god awful stadium is doing more bad then god and the NT need to get there own stadium and a smaller stadium where the fans can make it a hostile environment for opposing teams.. Hopefully Crete is ready for our next campaign and can attract more fans..

So after all this there is still a slim chance we can get into the playoffs for the Nations League. Sport24 breaks down our slim chances. https://www.sport24.gr/football/ellada/ethniki_elladas/ethnikh-elladas-kai-omws-den-exei-akoma-apokleistei.5619135.html

We might not agree with JVS playing certain players but let’s be honest he has them playing a good fast paced system with lots of pressure.. The Italy game even though we lost gave us some optimism and we were unlucky but today’s game against Bosnia was the best all around performance in the last 4 years hands down.. With out getting to far ahead of ourselves this coach looks like he knows what he’s doing.. We dominated the Bosnians IMO.. Hope we keep building on this.. Finally a good feeling after a game for once!!

Lucky Bounce by Fetfa!!!

Goal!!!!!!

Wow how we only have 1 goal this game is nuts.. we should have had at least a couple.. stupid to take out our best player Pavlidis for Koulouris

Greece are all over them..

Lets not forget when we have Fortounis back and we add pavlidis, Liminos, Donis Fetfa and Masouras we might be a pretty decent squad up front..

Wow Mantalos needed to score there

Great passing just lacking in the finish.. looking really good and creating lots of space..

Beautiful Goal Pavlidis

if bakasetas starts as reported it is truly a damn shame and it makes me question the mindset behind what JVS is doing. Not starting donis who has speed and skill is pretty ridiculous as well.

sport24 is saying this will be the line up. Bakasetas again and no Donis it just doesn't make sense at all. Paschalakis - Bakakis, Hatzidiakos, Kourbelis, Stafylidis - Galanopoulos, Giannoulis, Mandalos - Limnios, Pavlidis, Bakassetas.

This might be a really stupid question and I know we don’t deserve to qualify anyways but what happens if Finland and Hungary automatically qualify for the euros as it stands right now they are in position to do so, does this mean we get into a playoff for the nations league to try and get into the euros?

You might not be wrong at all but at some point we need to stick with someone for a while and give them some time.. he already spoke about the egos on the team and he already said he needs to rebuild this team so let’s juts give him a chance for a bit and see if things start looking up as this will not be a quick fix..

Can blame the coach right now man, this team hasn’t performed with 5 or so coaches, let’s give the guy a chance to rebuild the team and see what he has. Yes there was some unpopular decisions but we need to give the guy time.. right now it doesn’t matter who comes in to coach the result will be the same as this will be a long process off rebuilding the NT.

Get that waste Bakasetas off the field..wow he’s so s%$#!

Here we go we lose again because of a penalty FFS

How did He miss that?? Wow what a chance for Greece

They actually looked pretty solid. Liminos has good pace and they closed on the Italians well. Overall a very good half against a much stronger opponent then us.