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JVS doesn’t get it or sees something that we don’t in regards to Bakasetas.. The team is so much more fluid when he’s not on the field.. I don’t know how JVS doesn’t see it.. Bakasetas is the starter and the captain for this team and JVS go to guy.. It’s becoming very aggravating watching him start every important game and ruin any flow the team has.

Man we look so much better in our friendless then our qualifier matches..

Goal!!!!

s%$#! I just missed it.. was it a good goal?

I’ll have a look I haven’t gone through the posts yet..

Guys I couldn’t watch the game, did Greece play good or was it more like the Spain game and we got one opportunity and tied it? For those who watched the game what was your overall impression?

any links?

Bakasetas again my God..

At this point I have lost any hope I had in JVS. He gave us some optimism when he first came in and had the team playing high tempo only to go back to questionable player selections and playing confused and not knowing if the team wants to attack or defend. Also decisions he's made in regards to keeping Manolas in the dark and keeping Siovas off the team for his comment is just not right. At this point it looks like another failed qualifications which will ultimately lead to a new coach and back to square one we go.

Ya you might be right but after escaping with an unexpected draw against Spain the Georgia draw feels like a loss.. We had a huge opportunity to grab 4 points and still be within striking distance of 2nd.. More then anything the more I think about it now that i had some time to digest the games JVS was completely at fault for the draw against Georgia, it’s like he had the team playing scared and afraid to press.. It truly was a pathetic performance. I do see your point when you look at it your way it just sucks because we accomplished a huge point against Spain only to give it back against Georgia..

Not only did we not get into the Euros but after the draw with Georgia making the World Cup is extremely slim. I think JVS get removed after this World Cup qualifications and they will bring someone else in for the Euro campaign.. I’m still so gutted from the Georgia Draw.

He was very humble and spoke openly and honestly without disrespecting other players.. He mentioned something that we always knew about how shady things are going on in the background. He also mentioned how there our Greek players that are playing for big leagues that are not being called up. He was honest about the player call ups and how he thinks they are not the right choice.. You can see that Manolas, Socrates, and himself will not play for this coach.. At this point I just want a coach the plays our absolute best players I’m so tired of this s%$#!.. we are trying to win games with Svarnas and Mavrias when you have Manolas and Siovas and even Socrates off the team.

Watch the video of Siovas opening up about what happened with him and JVS as well as the current state of the NT and if the right players are being called up.. I agree with everything he said.. https://m.sport24.gr/longreads/o-dimitris-siovas-apokleistika-sto-sport-24-itan-schediasmeno-na-me-fane.9206688.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true&fbclid=IwAR09VUhBCpssIrO1RIE7yoQVqjoqm53U8ozGmOf5u6_eOXPrl7afr-PZGVM

Came across this video of the NT journey to the last world cup tournament they made.. Man i miss this team and players, so sad how low we have dropped ever since this last world cup appearance..

I agree with everything you said. the one thing i did like about JVS at the beginning is he gave more young guys a chance when he first came in but that seemed to stop and he stuck with a guys that have no business playing. I read an article about Ninis the other day saying he may get another chance to play for the NT. I think i would also bring back Fetfa if not as a starter i think he could be used as a bench option to add a spark to the team. Bakasetas is to JVS what Tziolis was to Skibbe Those guys have no business starting. At most Bakasetas should be coming in off the bench when the team needs to close out a game and nothing more. I really don't know what the answer is anymore I'm so frustrated with this team. We know there is no other high end coach that will come here so maybe you get a younger Greek coach that knows the players.

I can't go back on what i said before the qualifiers (others did as well) which is if we drop any points against Georgia or Kosovo we have NO chance at finishing 2nd. Yes Georgia gave Sweden and Spain a tough match but at the end of the day both those teams found a way to secure 3 points because that's what good teams do and we couldn't. Greece is now 4 points behind Sweden and we have both played 2 matches. There is no guarantee Spain take all 6 points from Sweden in fact I can see Sweden getting two draws but the most important factor is I can't see Greece beating Sweden to gain any ground, at most I can see a draw. It's like JVS didn't trust what he's been preaching its almost like he watched tapes from the Georgia game and had his team playing more scared not to concede then rather play high tempo that allowed us to create chances against teams like Slovenia and Kosovo (even though we didn't score we had chances). I have not been a hater or a huge supporter of JVS but i wanted to give him time to prove himself and he has done good things as there have been games where Greece were attacking and creating like I've never seen them before but the consistency is not there and this team is still lacking an identity of how the want to play and after the Georgia and Spain game it shows now more then ever.

I agree with you, But we have also faced Italy with JVS and although we didn't win we had what i thought was a good performance in Italy where we attacked more an even scored a goal and it was unfortunate we didn't get a result. We should be better then a 4th or 5th tier team but the results right now are not proving it. JVS has done some good things but it's clearly not enough but going through so many coaches the last several years he has had the team playing better prior to our last two games. Obviously if a better coach becomes available they should go after him but once again it wont happen on the EPO's budget that's the point I'm trying to make.

Some people stressed lets enjoy the point against Spain as bad as the team looked offensively. Maybe they didn't stress it in the nicest way but we struggled to beat some weaker teams so guys were happy getting a point against Spain. So it was little annoying the minute the Spain game was over to hear we are going to drop points to Georgia. Also you came on here yesterday the minute the whistle blew after the game and told guys "TO SHUT THEIR FCKING MOUTH AND GO TO HELL" That's what triggered some guys including myself to react. Frustrations are high all around I get that at the end of the day we all want this team to improve and start wining games with consistency and right now we are struggling to beat these weaker teams and if it continues like this we will never make another tournament again. Changes have to be made but as i mentioned before we will not get a world class coach that wont happen. At the end of the day JVS needs to be better and make smarter decisions if he's going to stay. Right now i don't know what the solution is with this team it's frustrating as hell watching them pass the ball back and get outplayed by Georgia in a game they probably should have lost. Personally i don't see how we even have a chance at 2nd after drooping points yesterday as we all said from the beginning if we want a chance at second we need to sweep Kosovo and Georgia.

The EPO budget is tiny for a coach so if you think we are getting anyone with any type of wining pedigree you’re wrong they won’t come here. There’s no question we are not getting the results that’s not up for debate. We should be beating these lesser teams but this goes back to Raneri where we were losing to the Faroe Islands and Skibbe who we had some bad results with and even tied Estonia FFS at home in a must win game. Don’t forget Skibbe also cost us that first game against Croatia with his unbelievably bad experimental line up, you mentioned the fact that we tied Croatia in the 2nd game but you ignored how bad his coaching decisions were in the first game that ultimately gave us no chance in the second game. JVS has got us not losing as we are on an undefeated streak for a while now but I do acknowledge it’s nowhere near good enough especially if we’re not beating these lower tier teams which is unacceptable. Not beating Slovenia and Kosovo was bad and JVS by now should Have the team winning these type of games there’s no question you won’t get an argument from me about that, but going back to my original point with the money the EPO has to spend on a coach you’re not going find anybody much better at the current moment. Also the Manolas thing and him not being part of the team I read somewhere that it had nothing to do with JVS, it said as long as the EPO president is still there he won’t be part of the National team.

Before you guys jump down my throat let me start by saying I don’t like playing guys out of positions but since JVS does it all the time with certain guys anyways then why not go with something like this? How much worse can Tsimikas be on his offside then The guys we had there today? Tsmikas kpap Tzavellas Giannoulis Zeca Bouch Masouras Fortounis Tzolis Giakoumakis

JVS went against what he was preaching about pressing as a team and trying to play high tempo, he fielded a line almost scared to give up a goal rather then go for the win and you could see it in the players, they were afraid to press, they were slow, it seems like the game plan was to watch George’s counter attack rather then play there game. It was dreadful performance.

I agree it was not a good line up. He was at fault and it showed early in the game.

Like I said bro I respect everybody’s opinion we’re not all going to agree about certain aspects of the team, and lots of frustration takes over especially when we are all so fed up after of number of years without qualifications and seeing no progress in the team. Yeah it sucks so sometimes your blood boils but I’m over it.. let’s move on.. And Like I said I can argue with someone one minute and be cool with them the next I don’t hold grudges I’m not a “12 year old”

Dude I’m pretty sure you’re not the guys PR person but when you come out game after game and start taking shots at people after a disappointing result that ended your qualification by saying “I hope everyone goes to hell and shuts there mouth” Do you think nobody’s going to reply to that? What world are you from where you think everyone’s just gonna keep quiet. If he came out and even said I told you guys or anything else but the minute you tell guys to go to hell and shut there mouth there will be some backlash..

That’s exactly my point.. They Have their comments already typed out and they’re just waiting for the whistle to press enter.