Bananas

Play the Athenian trio away for the first round.

Remind me again was Baba any good and would he be considered an upgrade over Rafa? I guess if not upgrade then we have some depth.

I reckon maybe Putin confiscated a bunch of Ivan's money.

It's not the sale of key players that concerns me so much but rather our ability to replace them with like for like (or better). And now that our budget is smaller it makes the task even harder. It is what it is.

If it's true we're selling players like Ingason and getting Kedziora I don't hold out much hope the season, let alone qualifying for the group stage of the conference league (which will be difficult enough as it is).

PAOK Today is ok for light entertainment. Obviously don't take anything they have to say regarding transfers seriously. This one was quite funny. Nikos bet on Ingason to score the first goal (jump to about 1:10 on the video). It happens and his reaction made me laugh.

Hello boys. Regarding the angst with not signing any players yet this might shed some light. Essentially he's saying what we all know. It's difficult to attract good players to Greece. They will bide their time and only if/when they can't get a better offer will they consider Greece. The club doesn't want to sign players for the sake of it. Would rather spend a bit more and get quality. It's annoying but I couldn't pick any faults in his statements. The simple truth is if you want to attract good players to a lower rated league you have to pay overs and right now with our budget that just isn't the case. https://www.sport24.gr/football/kyriakos-oi-protaseis-mas-den-deichnoyn-paraitisi-o-ivan-savvidis-syntoma-tha-echei-apantisei-me-tis-praxeis-toy.10095613.html Sidenote, what's with this *crazy* talk of selling Ingason. If our entire backline was his quality we would've gone close to the title. He's the only what I would consider top shelf player in the back line. Not easily replaceable at all. I wouldn't entertain any offer under 8 million just because he would be so difficult to replace.

November 6 ... for the 2nd tier competition in Greece. What a joke. And then we wonder why our football is so bad these days compared to the rest of Europe.

OFI deserved a goal. They made enough chances to score 1, possibly 2. But we should have scored 2 or 3. Them is the breaks.

I'm (to my surprise) not that fussed. I liked Paschalakis when he played for us. He is by all accounts great in the clubroom, well loved and a good guy. But he had his deficiencies as a GK and from what I've seen of Kotarski so far, Kotarski is better. I don't mind if he earns one final decent pay day at Olympiakos. I'd be surprised if he becomes their main GK - if he can, more power to him. Hopefully he does one of his clangers against us. 😁

I think what PAOKSYD is trying to say is he doesn't rate Boto. He is just trying to make sure we get the picture. Yeah man, we get the picture.

Yeah good news about Koulierakis. It's good to see talent from the youth coming through. It would be a damned waste if the youth team that has been smashing the league couldn't produce some first team players.

What sort of financial reasons ? That doesn't sound good.

Maybe he was just popping in for a friendly catch up. Why are people so cynical. 😁

I think it's a bit harsh to judge Tsiggaras based on goals/assists. That's not and nor should it be the DM's role. Ideally he would stay and be played and develop. But if he's not going to be played then this is the best outcome. Extending his contract by one year also a good move. Knowing our luck one of Augusto/Kurtic/Schwab will get a long term injury two days after Tsiggaras leaves for Toulouse.

@PAOKSYDdo you think Boto and Lucescu made this decision or it was a unilateral decision by Savvidis ?

I don't care about the price of Fernandes. I care about the quality. No more duds please. Bring in quality or don't bother.

Yeah I was gonna say, 3 of the back 4 in the last match are academy products.

Tsiggaras being loaned seems a bit odd. You would think with Kurtic, Augusto and Scwab being 99% not with the team next season that Tsiggaras would be part of the rebuild for the future. Unless of course the team has decided he just isn't good enough. Still if he's good enough for Serie A you would think he's good enough for PAOK ... or the Bulgarian league ha ha.

I'll believe it when I see it. Right now it's as much vaporware as our own stadium. I find it difficult to believe given how much other pressing economic issues the government has. I doubt this is a top priority for the government.

They were some crazy kids! Real messed up mofos! Your post reminded me they had a site they created when they left but it appears to no longer be around.

I don't consider it lost, not yet. It's not unusual after an "era" comes to an end for this to happen. The only clubs that don't experience this are the big boys who have virtually unlimited cash. Then again, how would one explain the absolute mess that has been Man Utd in recent times ... it's not like they are short of money. Anyway, I would consider this season lost if we don't start to see the formation of a core of players, a nucleus, to build on for the forthcoming seasons. If even half of our transfers this summer prove to be first team regulars I think that would be a good start. For example, we paid 2 million for a new goalkeeper ... I would like to think that by the end of the season we can all agree he is considerably better than Paschalakis. Otherwise, what is the point. Kargas, Nasberg, Quagliata, Narey, Soares, Ricardo ... let's see if we signed duds or not. Thomas I have a bad feeling about already but again let's see. There is a lot of work for Lucescu to do, that is for sure. The media and the "hardcore" fans will start with their diatribe no doubt. This is where the club, manager and players just have to get on with the job and ignore the inevitable "drama". For now I will wait until the winter break before meting out judgements and justice.

I vote PAOKSYD for the next president of PAOK ha ha.

How is Aris building a new stadium other than off the back of the tax payer ?

We can't judge just yet. Last season was "year 1". He tried with the veterans and it didn't work out. Sometimes you just don't know how much fuel is in the tank until you just run the car until it stops. I am curious to see if he can build a new team. Will the new players take to him ? Time will tell. First half of the season will be up and down. Second half of the season I expect to see considerable improvement and a rough idea on who are really first team players and who isn't.