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A nice final apparently. No troubles in the crowd as it was filled with students and pensioners. PAO deserved the win but PAOK fought well apparently.

You only have yourself to blame if you pay $250 to watch a match. What? Again that isn't a solution. I won't repeat myself on how the cup should be formatted but you can find my opinion on the cup thread.

44 games + another 14 or so games for the cup + Europe. Dude you really need to think your ideas through. That could end up being nearly 70 games in a season.

Why on Earth would I subscribe when I can watch it for free online? The real solution here would be to make ticket prices affordable, however this is a universal issue. It costs £40+ to watch a game here in London. If tickets were £10-£20 per game then I would probably watch one every week.

I would bet that it goes into pockets, never to been seen again.

Exactly. They will stay for one more season but we need to make CL Group Stage in September.

Η προσφορά έγινε αποδεκτή απο το κράτος διότι καίγεται για χρήμα. Είσαι πολλά χρόνια εδω στο νησί και ίσως να έχεις 'αποσυνδεθεί' απο την ελληνική πραγματικότητα (και πολύ καλά κάνεις) αλλα στην Ελλάδα δεν υπάρχουν λεφτά και αυτός ο μ@λ@κ@ς ο κομμουνιστής που κυβερνάει couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. Αφου λοιπόν καιγόταν για ζεστό χρήμα, ο Σαββίδης έκανε την προσφορά ξέροντας οτι υπάρχουν πολλές πιθανότητες να γίνει αποδεκτή. Ομάδα του δημοσίου και ιστορίες για αγρίους! Τι στρέμματα λες; Τον πεζόδρομο εννοείς; Υγ. Με Άκπομ και Κρέσπο δεν σώζεις κατηγορία φιλαράκι. Μ'αυτούς παίρνεις πρωτάθλημα.

Ηρέμησε, σε στημένο μάτς όλοι βάζουμε γκόλ. Not sure what you were thinking at the time of writing this sentence, however I can assure you that none of those names are/were ever stars. They were perhaps 'one-night-wonders' (Koke against Alletico for example). Ruben Palazuelos went on to Hearts in the Scottish League, which (I hope my good friend the Scotsman won't take offence to this) isn't exactly top level. After going to your parent organisation, Javito went on loan to Orduspor, then in Segunda Division before returning to Greece to play in Corfu and for Panthrakikos. Do you see my point? Unless, of course, you meant that they were stars for Aris in general. If that is the case then I guess you are right. PS. Sebastian Abreu was probably a star but I don't think he fancied staying around long enough to write himself into Aris folklore.

Ο καθένας οτι μπορεί φίλος. Τα χρέη τα πληρώσαμε. Δηλαδή εσυ που έχεις ενα δάνειο για το σπίτι, αν η τράπεζα δεχόταν την πρότασή σου να το εξοφλήσεις χωρίς τους τόκους θα έλεγες οχι; 'Εκανε μια προσφορά ο άνθρωπος η οποία έγινε αποδεκτή απο το κράτος. Βέβαια το οτι ο Ολυμπιακός είναι ουσιαστικά ομάδα του δημοσίου και το οτι ο Τίγρης έριξε την ΑΕΚ να γλυτώσει περίπου 100εκ δεν σε πειράζει. Ο ΠΑΟΚ φταίει για ολα και ο Ίβαν είναι ο χαλίφης! Λόγο οικονομικών προβλημάτων είχατε πέσει τότε ε; Τι προπαγάνδα είναι αυτή που κουβαλάς αδερφέ; Πρώτα πέσατε αγωνιστικά (τελευταίοι ήσασταν αν δεν κάνω λάθος) και αφου ήταν δεδομένος ο υποβιβασμός είπατε να πέσετε μια και καλή στη Γ! Υγ. Φίλε Αλμάντ, δεν έχει πλεϊ οφ φέτος αλλα απ'οτι άκουσα οι μ@λ@κες αποφάσισαν να γίνουν του χρόνου!

Ωχ, βλέπω σιγά σιγά απο άσχετος να γίνεται καλός και χρυσός ο Παντελίδης. Χωρίς πλάκα, μακαρι να σας βγεί ο τύπος γιατι το να αλλάζεις προπονητή κάθε 4 μήνες είναι κατι εντελώς ερασιτεχνικό.

Τα αποτελέσματα απο το 2015-2016, 2016-2017, 2017-2018 δεν θα τα βάλεις;

Akpom. I insisted for him to be played earlier on in the season and I said that he should be a starter when we sold Prijo. I always knew he would come good.

Had the Greek league not just been about Olympiakos and Panathinaikos for the past 20 years (you obviously weren't as bad as them) then we would not be in this situation in the first place. Look at all the serious leagues around Europe - Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A. Do you see them introducing a 10 team league with farcical play offs? Only Mickey Mouse leagues such as those in Belgium, Cyprus, Bulgaria and Serbia have these things in place.

Agreed. Plus I would also like to see a few more Greeks playing/starting in the squad.

^^ Franchises? You've spent too much time in North America dude. 14 teams and no play off wouldn't be the end of the world, I guess.

I said IF play offs are reintroduced! Besides I will continue to watch PAOK in Europe. Come on man (should be read in an American accent), do you really think I'm going to watch us come first only to then have to play stupid play offs and potentially lose it to an Athenian team because of point deductions or poor officiating? The past two seasons have been the beginning of a huge change in Greek football. Why on Earth would we want to take a giant leap backwards?

Should any of these stupid ideas come into effect then I cannot see the point in watching the Greek league anymore. Just have 16 teams with 30 games in total. It isn't rocket science.

The league will propose a play off system for the league going forward as of next year. This time it will include the the team that finishes 1st in the league. If I were Savvidis, I would reject this at all costs.

Or we will play our match while they will play theirs whenever they are knocked out of Europe. Just like us in 2011.

Μάλλον οδεύουμε προς ανανέωση με Σάκχωφ. Αυτό που φοβάμαι είναι οτι θα κάνει ματσάρες τώρα ώστε να πάρει το καινούριο συμβόλαιο και μετά στα @@ του!

With Warda and El Khaddouri departing in the summer it would be great for him to come back.

Λευτεριά στις Κυριακές μας!!!

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