Giourkas

1- Family is not an option. They brought us on the brink. 2-PAO should NEVER play in lower divisions. NOT an option.

^^ with no president to prop us up, gamma Ethnikh is a real possibility...

:lol: We cool man... Just pissed off..

^^ you have no right saying anything about 13 when 21 is in your Avatar. Especially on a day dirty batsoi employed by the Reds were tear gassing children.

http://www.pappaspost.com/video-in-greece-turkey-friendly-soccer-match-turkish-fans-disrupt-paris-moment-of-silence/

Gavro logic.... So out of touch it's disgusting... The fines are clearly wrongfully levied on poor Vaggela, a victim of a intricate conspiracy... Poor man.

Culture rivalry Edit The rivalry between the two top Greek clubs can be traced back to some social, cultural and regional differences. Panathinaikos, founded in 1908, comes from the centre of Athens and was considered the classic representative of the high class society of the Greek capital. On the other hand, Olympiacos was founded in 1925 and comes from Piraeus, the port of Athens, thus attracting supporters from the surrounding working class area. Both cities have played a major role in Greek history since classical antiquity; Athens was regarded as the cradle of the ancient Greek civilization, taking advantage of Piraeus' strategical potential and forming a unified region with the latter. During the 20th century, Athens experienced a demographic explosion and territorial expansion coming to enclose all its suburbs, including Piraeus, in a large urban area. These class differences between the people in the homelands of the two clubs offered further reasons for the animosity between their fans. Olympiacos' early success provided a way for the people of Piraeus to express their contempt for the wealthier classes, by which Panathinaikos was heavily supported. Furthermore, Olympiacos attracted fans from all over Greece who believed themselves to be victims of social and political unfairness. However, this kind of clash was much more pronounced in the past, as the class differences between the fanbases have faded out and the social gap that once separated the two sides has closed over the years. Nowadays, both clubs boast fanbases that represent all the social classes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_of_the_eternal_enemies

Any links? The reason I ask was cause the derby between our teams represented a clash in classes. PAO representing the upper class of Athens and Oly representing the working class from the port. This no longer is the case as the classes are represented by both teams in recent times...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out ratboy.

:lol: Says the "Amerikanaki"!

The Gavro ths troumbas calling another poster "American boy" is just too much!!! :lol:

^^ +13 Guys like Al Capone and Pablo Escobar used the same tactics... Generating millions in elicite earnings and buying the gullible public's love by giving generous donations...

The fraudulent team's fat owner recently got fined 300 K. This is fact. None of your fantasy land BS.

Etsi bravo! Etsi se thelw! Now you're talking... Just one thing, add: blackmail, death threats, bombings, drug smuggling, money laundering, organized crime, and you are set! B)

Out of your 72 posts, how many are in your team's thread exactly? :lol:

Greeko (in true butthurt Gav fashion ) thinks PAO's record in Europe is no big deal... This man begs to differ: LEGACY I just don't understand how they think that just because it happened in 1971 it doesn't count yet when they bring up their petsina, their championships (Topika) from the '50s mysteriously count!! Lol Confused lot!! :lol:

PAO reached 2 Semis aside from the final which is a lot more than your sorry club! And you guys play CL EVERY year!!! That is a putrid record you have there my rugby watching friend!!!

You are right, but I saw the Semifinal in 95-96, a 1/4 final in '01... I've seen my team finish 1st in their group in CL... You??? Do you have gray hair? Are you still waiting? You see my friend, that is called Legacy. And you're still waiting!

Don't take my word for it, here read this (if you read Greek): http://www.sportit.gr/vomves-tsiniari-gia-tin-dietisia/ And don't mention it, I love educating people with links... ;)

You're right, too bad they didn't screw over another team and get a free stadium back in 2004! Too bad Alafouzos doesn't peddle narcotics and fix matches! Too bad he also doesn't have connections with a very corrupt UEFA in the form of Platini! Too bad our debts from the 1970s aren't swept under the rug!!! To be the state's team would be great!!!! But that would also make us pou... G....! No thanks!! :D Yes PAO is currently in a very difficult period in its history. But the club still has a greater European history that the Gavs still envy no matter how many petsina they win.

^ That was a different era my friend!! Teams were allowed just a few foreigners per squad! This spread the talent more evenly for all clubs. Do you honestly think a young Warzycha would come to Greece in the present what with the ultra rich clubs pulling ahead of the pack? I think not..

You will not be lost while watching the movie but there are references to the othe Daniel Craig Bond films...

^Epic!!! :D

I saw Spectre the other night and must say was pleasantly surprised. I was entertained and for the 1st time since Casino Royale felt like I was watching a 007 movie! (Q actually supplied cool tech, James hooked up with chicks for Queen and Country, James saves the girl, James confronts a global threat, etc...). I find that Quantum and Skyfall had lost their way and tried a little too much to be like Jason Bourne movies...

Love the man for obvious reasons but he's a Vardinogiannis loyalist...