Giourkas

^^ wtf? Get your facts strait JVC. Although you are currently sitting pretty in 2nd spot, are you happy that Tiger promises the world yet doesn't spend much? I don't get your statement... It's ok that your legacy has been tarnished to wipe debt, only to have one of the wealthiest men in Greece not spend much? How's the stadium coming along? Take it from me, having lived through hollow promises of Tzigger, Botanikos projects, and the m#$%! Tsipra's meddling, I can smell bourdes a mile away. I hope for you I'm wrong, but in your place I would be concerned. On the day PAO is debt free, and a powerful individual takes over and Should he choose to undertake a frugal approach, I would be pissed... Reaper: let's assume that one day, Marinakis packs up and leaves, the CL money ceases coming in, and Oly accumulates unsustainable debt, would you be happy dropping to the 3rd division to erase your debts? What would that do to your "thrylos" legacy? Or is that the right move for every other Greek team but yours?

^ still playoffs to be played! ;)

Why would Tiger assume debts born of other people's incompetence? Kala ekane... However,1- PAO is PAO. We will never be like AEK. You say PAO "should" of fallen? Ha! Please refrain from typing fallacies. It is paying its debts (incurred under the leadership of the very Gavro-endorsed Tzigger) therefore it is rightfully playing in the top division. 2-PAO's legacy does not permit it to use the AEK model of dropping to the bottom to waive its debts. PANATHINAIKOS means maxitiki psixi! PAO sucks it up and goes through tough times to pay off its debts seeing as we unlike you don't get government handouts nor does the team neglect to pay debts from the 1970s to the early 1990s. (We are also lucky not to have our history tarnished by characters like Salieris and Marinakis.. Guys that went to jail or belong there). All this while sustaining repeated attacks by the very red system, EPO, Kontoni, batsoi... Do I wish we had better results on the field? Sure... But Under the circumstances, gustaro and I'm proud of this team's balls. Like I said many times before, we are paying our debts, we have acquired our own training grounds, Leoforos will be renovated giving us a stable home... Not bad for tough times. What has Tiger done for AEK again? 3- Alafouzos is a caretaker during this hard time. He has expressed multiple times that the minute a big shot is ready to take over, he will gladly hand the rains. The minute PAO's debts are significantly reduced, I suspect a big player will move in to take PAO in a new era. Until then I'm glad Alafouzos is providing leadership and Millions to keep us afloat..

OSFP has debts running from the 1970s! FACT.

Re Karaiskaki: :lol: how is that other club from the port you use to share the old stadium doing these days? :lol: the new Karaiskaki is one of the few buildings from the 2004 Olympics still in use! Viva the socialist state for the ultimate support of THE Butter fed Club in Greece! :lol:Re vardinogiannides: the whole league was better then before the system (OSFP) destroyed it. FACT fact FACT!!!

In the end, the only people endorsing Tzigger are misguided PAO fans and Gavs (as demonstrated a couple of posts ago). From the Gav point of view, do we really need to ask why? :lol: Could PAO use an owner with deeper pockets and a bigger arostia for PAO than Alafouzo? Sure, you can always use one of those to fight the system. But Alafouzos is way preferable to Tzigger and family, who accepted the system. Let us not forget that while he has led our team, a bigger war on PAO has never been waged. Without him, it is entirely conceivable that the team would of been destroyed. AXARISTOI! :p Alafouzo is paying down PAO's debt (incurred under Tzigger's watch), without relegating our proud club to Gamma ethniki, he added a training facility to the team's assets (the Vardis promised this in 1979 and never did so), and he is on the verge of making key renovations at Leoforo (our HISTORICAL home) thus ensuring the club will not be left homeless like AEK or living off tax payers like the Gavs and over a team like Ethnikos Pireas. (New Karaiskaki stadium circa 2004). These are all facts.

So cocaine sniffing Tzigger, the failure of his family, the retarded son that raced cars cause he was too dumb to run the Billion Euro family business, is your winner? Lolololol

^ just lols to that post....

^ yup, just like Peter Chech

^Valid question...

Some guy tried to troll Cisse on Twitter: @DjibrilCisse remember when you got slapped off the Olympiakos fans in the Derby a few years ago ???????????????????? Cisse's response: @Hoginho89 remember this https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaNFXS9W0AEingq?format=pjpg&name=large :lol:

Kotopoula me kranoi!!!! Familiar with that? Don't pretend you're not.... ;)Your association with chickens even cracked Greek mainstream culture: :lol: :lol: :lol: http://images.profileengine.com/large/428007368/.... Now be a good kotopoulo and "run" along!

Who died and made you the expert on the obvious and the insane? I thought you agreed to disagree a couple of posts ago, why are you still here? (Troll) As for Vaggela and the multiple allegations: Where there is smoke...... You know the rest...

They will not shut down the oldest supporter's club on it's 50th anniversary...

Every gate at Leoforos has been renamed gate 13, and separated by section. Classy move by the club B)

His businesses are being propped by illegal enterprises (OSFP being one of them)

^I forgot to add "who has connections to batsoi and the law.".. My bad! :lol:

A final is a "little further" than a 1/4 final says the red cool aid drinker... :lol:

Wow, the law coming down on PAO supporters... What's new exactly? (Same dirty batsoi that wrecked the peaceful demonstrations against austerity outside parliament I bet...)

Too bad they all can't be heroine smugglers and match fixers with connections to banned UEFA presidents....

^again, what have they to show for it exactly Amo? 20 years of futility. In that time, PAO managed to top it's group on 2 occasions (2002, 2008), while having a fraction of the opportunities. Something they have been incapable of doing themselves...

^ you should of included my entire post as something you can't argue... You are trolling kind sir. I am simply reminding you who is in who's threads trying to agitate posters. So you don't play the victim card when a mod does something about it....AGAIN

Today's Oly is not as relevant as yesterday's PAO in Europe.. As PAO supporters we are entitled to write what we want here. This is a PAO thread after all...