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^ Cause we feel like it.... Like We have said before, his core business (shipping) is doing real well of late.

So wait, Europe is paying the Turks annual ransoms to protect its sovereignty? Wtf...

What's new exactly? they are waging a war to destroy our club. We must remain resolved and bring the whole rotten system to the ground...

^ time will tell... For now, this is what Nikos Spyropoulos had to say about the man in a recent interview:

Say what you will about Pateras, the guy has never stopped being involved in some capacity.. And his core business is thriving again.. So it won't surprise me if he does return...

^ tell me a former Oly player from the last 5 years that has come out and said something like this... B)

All this focus on the "hooligans" is a ploy to distract from the fact that Kontoni was communicating with Marinakis.. You know, the the heroine dealing fat F*** who is NOT supposed to involve himself with Gavs FC. Wake up!!! And the cops are not "criminally irresponsible", they are "criminally on the take/work for the Gavs"... (Kindly refer to the head of security at Rizoupoli and what his position became after that war zone of a day...

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No matter what you say/witnessed, sophostires gavs have their opinions of how things went. Fits the narrative of the sweet innocent heroine dealing owner... Or that PAO was scared to play them off the park again.. Poor Gavs, I thought their players didn't understand the meaning of the derby for Greeks.. Wait, their reasoning is all over the map but don't mind that...

I swear, it's as if some of you don't even bother reading posts and type up things that fit your narrative.. Read what people here thought about the violence before you preach the righteousness that so you evidently think we need to "see". Is he wrong too?

^ will the league punish all transgressors equally? Nobody is trying to condone the violence... Quite the opposite. But to defeat it, you must first understand the root of all the unrest. If one team constantly gets slapped on the wrist, and the other gets the book slammed at it, it's only normal for a portion of the fanbase to lash out... (And let's for a moment pretend that this was not planned and anticipated by the apateona Savidi). What do you think of Gate 13 taking measures in its own hands and I.D.ing the firework culprits? Are they "Che-type revolutionaries"? Personally, I think they deserve to be there...

That is great news! Hopefully this will make people think twice about acting like idiots at games...

http://www.leoforos.gr/football/story/89400/syllalitirio-tin-tetarti PAE Panathinaikos is organizing it to protest the situation in Greek football..

Symmaxeia is failing cause of the corrupt system favouring the eternal enemy... Who would invest in the movement when the outcome of the league is predetermined before the 1st whistle? Do not turn on ourselves.. THIS is precisely what the Gavs are banking on...

And the year before...

In 2011, due to financial problems and management disagreements, the direction decided to reduce the budget and sell many players. In 2012, the owner of Skai TV, Giannis Alafouzos, devised a plan to take Vardinogiannis' shares (54.7%) and make them available to fans around Greece so that everyone could contribute, so that Panathinaikos could overcome the crisis.[28] His intension was to create a new, for the Greek athletic standards, supporter-owned football club. On 2 July 2012, the Panathenaic Alliance finally opened to the public so that everyone could be a member and contribute a desired amount in return for privileges. A few days later Giannis Vardinogiannis gave his shares - 54.7% of Panathinaikos F.C. - to the Alliance, while the other shareholders maintained their percentage. The members of the Alliance through elections compose the Board of Directors and elect the Club's President. First president was elected Giannis Alafouzos. If every other shareholder of PAE (aside from Tzigger's old shares 54.7%---->45.3%) kept their shares, and people bought into Symaxia, how does Alafouzos have majority? Did he take over 93% of Tzigger's old stake without actually buying in to wrestle a controlling stake in PAO? Yes he injected money but nowhere near the amount to control PAO. Also, Alafouzos has stated repeatedly that he has no intentions of buying PAE and that he would act as a caretaker until someone would take over... I think your article is a classic case of lazy journalism. The writer clearly thinks Symaxia=Alafouzos.

From https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giannis_Alafouzos In May 2012 he founded, together with players and fans of football team Panathinaikos F.C., the association Panathinaikos Alliance 2012 which took a majority stake in the football club. In September 2012 he was elected by the members of the Alliance president of Panathinaikos F.C. in order to progress with the reorganization and consolidation of the association.

Vardinogiannides shares went into Panathinaiki Symaxia. How could he have majority shares?

You are saying that Alafouzo has fooled everyone and owns majority stake at PAO. In other words, that he is lying about being just a caretaker. These are big allegations to make without proof. You can theorize yes. But you stated it as if it were fact. This I expected of some recently banned posters, who made a habit of spreading lies. Not from you. You say you lost respect for me tonight? I won't lose sleep over it when I call you out over falsehoods. Have a good night.

Hides the fact that he owns the club. You know what I mean. Classic reaper tactics. When cornered, pick at m*****es... :lol:

Again, who's arguing the tax rates? I'm challenging your statement on how he hides shares in Cyprus as a whole! Are you an investigative journalist? Do you have proof? Or are you talking out of your ass? Forget SDNA, do you have anything to support your far fetched comment? Or does that statement belong with the "Bulgarian" allegations an ex-poster used to post here?

And here's a little dose of reality:

This

I see, so you know nothing for a fact, just assuming/educated guess... Not quite sure why you would make such assumptions...

^ link? Or just assumption on your part? And btw, in light of what recently happened to the banks in Cyprus, not quite sure that evading taxes there is the way to go...