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I'd be very surprised if we won now. confidence and momentum is very important. during our pretty good world cup campaign our friendlies before was a victory against bolivia and draws against poland and portugal. we didn't lose sucker games. when we lose sucker games, we have a sucker mentality going in friendly or not. you play to win. stop disrespecting the fanella with your stupid politics epo.

Report from Bosnian training in Greece. They just say Kolašinac seems fine and that Dušan Bajević(you can see him in pics section in the company of coach Baždarević) visited our team http://sportsport.ba/bh_fudbal/kolasinac-trenirao-bajevic-dosao-da-podrzi-zmajeve/213622

I for one have a different aspect when it comes to the friendly loss. It is a good thing proving to Skibbe how vital players like Fortounis, Manolas , Sokratis Torosidism Mantalos and Mitroglou are. It also pointed the team cant play 4-4-2, even though we ve been asking for it. Skibbe answered to you all who were asking for 4-4-2 (due to Karelis being of high form its no more than 3 months ago that people were asking this scheme in the forum because of "lack of wingers). Even if it wasnt a loss, it was a draw or even a narrow 1-0 2-1 win, it proves team cant play without wide players. Also proved Diamantakos not ready to make the big step, The fact that Tziolis played 90' is good. It probably menas we might not see him for the next 1-2 matches at all. Since there s probably just an agreement with EPO and his Manager for playing time. I ll repeat I have a feeling that even his teammates didnt wanna pass to him, which if Epo realises is throwing the team back to our EURO 16 QCampaign, where the team wasnt united, they might stop it. Stafylidis,Gianniotas and Tachtsidis proved how worthy they are. Karnezis - Glykos have a very high level difference when it comes to calming the game and making correct passes. Gianniotas really didnt do anything unique, but his speed and the fact that he knows the winger position is an upgrade to the team. we need people who can make fast transition from defence to offense, and Tachtsidis Vision with players like Gianniotas Fortounis and Mantalos is an excellent tactic. These players along Kyriakos being able to "fill" the DM pos, without being anything special, or one of the Samaris, Maniatis, Petsos , Siopis instead are the only worthy 11 for trying to qualify we have. Karnezis Toro Manolas Sokratis Stafylidis Papadopoulos Tachtsidis Gianniotas Fortounis Mantalos Mitroglou For this match with all these injuries im hoping to see something like this: Karnezis Toro Papa Sokratis Stafylidis Samaris Siopis Gianniotas Fortounis Mantalos Mitroglou

Marinakis invested in Olympiakos and got lucky with the timing of it. Pre CL there wasn't big money up for grabs. Now, there is, and the money that Marinakis invested payed off big time. ~200 million in CL monies. It started a huge snowball effect where he could reinvest that money into the squad. He did so and we know the result. For the other "big 3" patates tiganites. Good luck catching up now. And now to expect Savvidis, Alafouzos and Melissanidis to pour in say, realistically, 50 million to 100 million to just compete, and this wouldn't be a guaranteed CL entry since first you have to beat Olympiakos and then you have to get through the CL qualifiers (which realistically they wouldn't), why would they do this ? Risk vs reward ? Big risk, more likely than not it wouldn't pay off. And if it did it might only pay off for one year, and Marinakis would spend like crazy. @jvc you said in a post in the U.S. election thread that you can't wait for politicians to come and help you. You have to help yourself. Maybe you should take the same advice and stop waiting for a messiah to come and rescue Panathinaikos.

i had the same opinion with u but yesterday iwas proven wrong. Just some back passes and a failed through ball t gianniotas are his highlights. adding the fact i mentioned that the others dun wanna "play with him" unless no otheroption, he s making midfield insta lost.

So, the 2016 election is over. Trump wins the presidency by winning the Electoral College and losing to Clinton by about 2 million votes in the popular count. Funny thing, because he has been deriding the EC for years as "unfair", "stupid" etc. The best change the country can do without a constitutional amendment is that every state passes a law that says it'll allocate its electors either based on % of the state vote or give them to the person that wins the national popular vote. This way the EC will be rendered moot. The EC is a 18th century anachronism, invented by the elites as a safety mechanism to prevent the election of someone like Trump chosen by the ignorant public.

Sadly with Taxi out...Skibbe will play the great man Tziolis if maniatis is not fully fit.. I see this as Skibbe's: ...............................Karnezis......................... toro....................K.Pap.........Sokratis..............Tzavellas ................................Maniatis.............Samaris................ Mandalos...........................Fortounis......................Karelis ............................................Mitro....................................

I'm still very confused on what purpose that friendly served with the line up he fielded. It's so frustrated because we could actually have the potential to have a decent Starting line up with good players coming off the bench. Imagine having Kone, Ninis,Fetfa, Siopis as bench options with Fourtonis, Mitro Mantolasand so on as starters. It sucks because we will never know our true potential as long as Diamantakos, Tziolis,Maniatis, Bask, take a spot on this team. How the hell can a coach not see this when it is so clear and such an easy choice. I can't see us getting a win or a tie in this game against Bosnia.. I'm just curios what stupid subs and moves Skibbe makes for this game.

Posts moved. The guy in the middle-right of that last pic looks like Tzavellas. No wonder he's popular.

Did not know of this syndesmo until today hahaha :D http://www.baladoros.com/twg/pictures/0_imgs/sf_paok_dendropotamou_gipsy.jpg

The solution is to completely disband EPO and start from scratch. Some of the criminals (Girtzikis and co.) have been removed, but a lot of their buddies are still at EPO running things. They completely destroyed the national team the past few years, and that has also been the case with the U-21 team. The most important thing is to appoint a regular coach, and not some ex-player without any coaching experience.