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Question to you Lamiara: Did we ever see EPO get rocked like this under the family? ;)

Money laundering at its best... Wake up!

georgelaz: Not sure if you were responding to my post but I included Mantalos in the 1st line-up. Since Ninis didn't get called up, I didn't bother putting him anywhere. Regarding Gianniotas, he has impressed me from the clips I saw of him playing for APOEL so I thought it'd be nice to try him out in a friendly to see what he's got. As for Maniatis, I think he's a technically-limited player the NT should be trying to phase out, especially as he's not getting any younger. At the same time, if the coaches do not feel that anyone else can take over that DM role (Tax, Petsos, etc) then I feel that we can still squeeze some use out of him since if nothing else, he does offer a little grit and tenacity. I think if you limit his responsibilities to pure yeoman's mop-up duty, he can still be useful. One thing I worry about with the 4-2-3-1 is that it still really separates the defensive players from the offensive players, making it difficult to break-out and transition (a chronic problem for the NT). If Tax would develop into the kind of consistent two-way player we think he's capable of, then that would go a long way to fixing that IMO. I think one advantage of the 5-3-2 is that more of the forward movement should come from the wingbacks getting crosses in, which takes pressure off the midfield actually stringing passes together up to the forwards (another chronic problem for the NT). I haven't seen enough of Petsos to really comment but would surely welcome him getting some time over these 2 games to see what he can do.

Shame it's so farcical. The athletes in Greece do it hard. They deserve to be funded like the Australians, British, French, Italian, Japanese athletes.

Disappointed to still see Tziolis over Tachtsidis; was also hoping to see Ninis get a call. Oh well, let's see what Skibbe rolls out for these games. My hope is that he moves away from the 4-3-3 and tries something different. A 5-3-2 or 4-2-3-1 would probably suit our players better (in terms of guys playing in their natural positions). I was also hoping we would have phased out Maniatis by this point but it seems like the coach is intent on keeping him around so... ------------------------------------------------------------Karnezis------------------------------------------------------- Torosidis--------------------------------Papastathopoulos---------------Manolas------------------------Holevas -----------------------------------------------------Maniatis-----------------Samaris----------------------------------- --------------------------------Gianniotas--------------------Fortounis---------------------Mantalos---------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------Mitroglou---------------------------------------------------- Alternatively: ------------------------------------------------------------------Karnezis------------------------------------------------- Torosidis-------------------Papadopoulos (if fit)--------Papastathopoulos----------Manolas-------Holevas --------------------------------------------Maniatis------------Fortounis---------------Samaris---------------------- -------------------------------------------------------Karelis-----------------Mitroglou----------------------------------

Ninis and Kone are probably injured guys, that's the reason they are not here. I wouldn't call Petsos average, guy was one of the superstars of Austrian League and wanted from a Bundesliga team. Tziolis, I said it , he probably has a Βύσμα, so our call ups will have to be 22 players + Tziolis.

Greece won 3 times more medals then the ones in London. Wished Greece could have gotten 10 plus just like in Sydney 2000 and Athens 2004.

love u too akritis