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In EL we will be seeded for sure. Top 10 even. In CL we will most probably be unseeded. See http://kassiesa.net/uefa/forum/view.php?topic=20151026002942.xml And then click on cldraw.ru/en in the post of 26-10-2015. Here the excel-format is filled out with the current standings.

Kala, he was completely out of form in that Bolivia match. It was the first match I was watching in over a year and I was just shocked at how poor he was finishing. He should have scored at least 5 that day. In the Colombia match he hit the bar with a header on an open goal. It was 2-0 then. If he scored then it would have been very interesting.

I wish he would threaten to build a decent squad

Did you read Manolara's post before posting ? He is clearly stating that Greece is and has been a dysfunctional nation economically. They should never have received the loans they got. As to why the loans were given, we can only speculate. 1) The EU, IMF, ECB did not know this. In this case they are manifestly incompetent. 2) The EU, IMF, ECB knew this but were optimists. In this case they are manifestly unwise. 3) The EU, IMF, ECB knew this but gave the money knowing there was a good chance Greece would get into trouble. This then begs the question, why did they do it ? And that question has many possibilities. When you are a small player you have to play by the rules. But when you're a big player you can always move the goal posts. My understanding of Manolara's post is that ALL of the blame going onto Greece and its citizens is grossly unfair, as they are not 100% to blame. Now if we want to work out what percentage of the blame should be on the current Greek government, what percentage on previous Greek governments, what percentage on its citizens, what percentage on the EU, what percentage on the IMF, what percentage on the ECB ... that is another study in itself. As to "good" citizens in Australia paying their taxes, I can assure you they wouldn't be such good citizens if they could easily get away with not paying tax. They pay because they must. Because it's not easy in Australia for the average person to get away with not paying. Because if the ATO catch you out, they are relentless in collecting the due amount and are also very well staffed. P.S. I really hope the upcoming vote for Brexit leads to the UK leaving the EU. It's time the EU copped a good kick in the teeth.

The Euro's would send billions of... euros to Greece and every other country that requested them. What a magical organisation the EU is. You want money? You want money? You got it. WHO ELSE WANTS MONEY?!?!?! Of course German and French banks wanting a higher rate of return on idle capital didn't add fuel to the fire by buying bonds in Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain which fuelled asset bubbles in real estate and the stockmarket right? They can never be accused of wrongdoing. As our other friend tells us: It's Greece's own fault! I love this line. Investment bankers gamble on gambles and insure those gambled gambles to make big money but when they lost, the blame fell on the home owners who where approved multiple loans with no means testing, fraudulent loan application approvals, and NINJA loans. At the end of the day it's their own fault for being approved homes they couldn't afford and putting themselves in that position to begin with! And at the end of the day who are we referring to when we say "it's Greece's own fault"? Do the yiayiades and papoudes in the xoria understand Credit Default Swaps? Do they know who JP Morgan is? Maybe he's Taso and Maria's son from Vouliagmeni. Do they understand how a national economy works? Maybe we're referring to the youth, 1 in 2 of which is unemployed and probably 1 in 3 of those employed are owed months of backpay. Is that the Greece who is at fault? The moral righteousness reigns supreme when poor people can be used as an excuse because Greece is free, and people have the freedom to make choices. Make a bad choice and it's your own fault. The complexities of suburban and urban life don't matter. GDP per capita don't matter. Education don't matter. Health don't matter. Nor do political influences. When the wealthy, powerful, make a mistake we turn a blind eye and passively aggressively shove that bit of reality so far down our mind that we barely notice the difference. When world leaders do nothing about the offshore tax havens and the trillions in untaxed wealth, we just pretend like it isn't happening and all is well, just like when one of our friends yells or physically assaults their spouse at a bbq. It's best not to get involved and the problem will be solved somehow. But how dare those poor, powerless people be poor an destroy national and world economies! They're the world movers and shakers that we should go after! While one hand is scolding Greece's poor, the other hand funnels money out of the country into said tax havens, further worsening the crisis for those who have nothing else left to give but the blood their ancestors fought for against the Italo-fascists, Nazi's, Communists, Junta, and Turks. Bravo.