Ziaka Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 aek66, I agree with every word you wrote in your post. I watched the game at Chasers and I was very close leaving the place at half time after the pathetic display of our NT. After the Kazakhs scored I just wanted to stick around to see one of the biggest rezili of our NT. At the end we won. We must be the luckiest team around. With display like today we don't deserve to still be in the running for the 2nd place. Unless our NT by some miracle finds the form it used to have during EURO, you might as well kiss the 2nd place goodbye. With a display like today and against Belgium not only we will lose to Denmark, we will not even beat Georgia. Don't even think about playing powerhouses such as Czech Republic, France, etc in the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GreekSoussou Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 A win is a win re paidia. Now let's hope Ukraine learned from Greece's injury time heroics. :tup: :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantelo Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 i think first off we should get rid of vryzas. our weakness obviosly lies on the fact that we can not score and here we have vryzas whos job is to score, can not even hold on to the ball.he should not be starting or even be playing anymore. he was a good player 3-4 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantelo Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 A win is a win re paidia. Now let's hope Ukraine learned from Greece's injury time heroics. :tup: :gr: yes you are right a win is a win but if we play like this on a reguler basis we will not even see mundial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GreekSoussou Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 ^ Yes but they scored and they won. It is called momentum and gaining confidence. They will need both in Denmark, since with a Turkey win now they will need to beat Denmark to qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pao123 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 im srry boys...we got the three point but we were pathetic today...abosulty pathetic...eurpoean chanpions?? where were they? surely not playing against the kazahs (who dont have one point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 No problems boys reality is we are not the best team - we will not run people over - but we won - very well done - would you all rather return to the previousdecades of playing well and losing - crossbars , missing by an inch , allowing last second goals We owe the frikin Danes a beating from 1998 WC qualifying - and they will get it - :box: bravo Lybe bravo pathyia - :tup: zito ti patritha :gr: :gr: :gr: :gr: :gr: :gr: :gr: :gr: :gr: sikose to :nw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GreekSoussou Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 ^ :nw: A win is a win is a win. I will take it any day of the week. No matter if it is 9-0 or 2-1. And momentum is the name of the game, and Greece now has it with a win, instead of Denmark who must still be unhappy with drawing Turkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korisos Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 well if you want to read my thoughts...... Nikopolidis-didn't really have much work to do and can't blame him for the goal, but he did blunder one cross Kats-had an indifferent game but did save us on kaz 1st attacking move of the game. kapsis- he's getting old, you can tell, i thought man-marking was his forte fyssas- did very good forward balls, only offensive threat from the back giourkas- :tdown: long balls all the way to back to russia, i hope he's enjoying his paycheck. zago- i would say avg. had a sort of half chance on a header but didn't really see him stand out today. basinas- :tdown: the worst player on the field, otto is using unfit players, reaction times are not the same, i wouldn't put all the blame on him. kara-was the holding midfielder but his dribbles went nowhere, at least his crosses and set pieces were decent charisteas-first half chance should have shot w/ his left foot, second half even worse, couldn't turn and shoot past the keeper 1 on 1. vryzas-nothing really worth mentioning, did some crosses but headers not as accurate stelios-played in the right position, good goal but no good support from giourkas, left alone too often in the 1st half. subs: lybe-thought he really should have scored on 2 of his headers but good goal, might earn him a starting place gekas-i'm not a big fan of but today was good, helped set up first goal kafes-don't know what he was thinking on that yellow card challenge but didn't stand out. FINAL thought: this team can't keep the ball on the ground, instead they rely on set pieces and they play the long ball to charisteas who can't hit the net even w/ no keepr there, they have no ground game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympiakara10 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Everyone has adjusted to our style. I can't believe we struggled to beat Kazahkstan. Not a good showing at all and poor effort overral. I real that we lacked inspiration in the first half. If that's true, I don't know what to say. These guys are in a hole and their lucky to face a team like Kazahkstan, they should've been pumped for this game, as it was a pretty big game. We lack motivation and simply cannot score goals(forget 2 goals against Kazahkstan, it's Kazahkstan, we should've scored 4 goals, not 2) and even if we do qualify, it will be an extremely tough road for Greece if they continue playing like this. I just hope they don't embarass themselves as Euro champs. I love this team and I don't want to see that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GreekSoussou Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I think Dellas is the key. With him the defense can become more aggressive, and that opens up more scoring oppurtunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I think Dellas is the key. With him the defense can become more aggressive, and that opens up more scoring oppurtunities. only if he gets some games under him - look at basinas to see what happens when you are rustythis team is playing well if you think how out of form they all are Setaridis from what I heard is stinking up Russia Basinas looks like a bum (to his defence he is not playing in a comfortabel position) Dellas - out Kapsis hasn't played 3 games in 4 months Kyrgiakos - hasn't played yet Goumas - hurt Karagounis - not getting regular action - yet - at least he has trained with Inter for a while - and is sure to play more in Portugal Paps - banged up all the time Charisteas plays seldomly at Ajax Vryzas - the 9th forward on his team? Kafes - doesn't see regular time with his club forget about Tsartas - what the hell is he doing? Vasilli if you had used your head signed with a 2nd rate team somewhere of (heaven forbid) returned to Greece you would be helping us on our way to WC 2006 - the last time he was in real shape @ Ukraine he scored an unbelievable goal - do you remeber theis boys (and girls) http://www.ourmedia.org/node/19337 the guy was a freakin magician Fyssas - Stelios - Zagorakis - Nikopolidis - (and Fanis and Lybe now) are the only guys playing on their club teams That is crazy - remarkable that they are doing this well Log live Otto :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aek21 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I have yet to watch the game, but I'm glad we atleast won. Doesn't matter how they come we won. Hey we aren't the first to go to Kazakhstan and almost lose, ukraine, albania, georgia. I was very worried about them because I thought they'd be overlooked. Turkey weren't impressive either. Denmark look deadly, 6-1 speaks for it's self. I think we can catch Denmark off guard. They're on a high and in months time they'll think they can take advantage of us while we are on a low.... but we'll be on a high since dellas is back and we have our euro defence all together again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 aek66, I agree with every word you wrote in your post. I watched the game at Chasers and I was very close leaving the place at half time after the pathetic display of our NT. After the Kazakhs scored I just wanted to stick around to see one of the biggest rezili of our NT. At the end we won. We must be the luckiest team around. With display like today we don't deserve to still be in the running for the 2nd place. Unless our NT by some miracle finds the form it used to have during EURO, you might as well kiss the 2nd place goodbye. With a display like today and against Belgium not only we will lose to Denmark, we will not even beat Georgia. Don't even think about playing powerhouses such as Czech Republic, France, etc in the play-offs. Funny you said that my dad left from Scott's Corner in London at half I think the luck hads gone both ways in this campaign - Nikoplidis fluffed one in Ukraine - missing opportunities or called back goals at Turkey and vs Ukr - on one side and the last minute Dane goal vs Turkey and the penalty call vs Denmark on the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GreekSoussou Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Dellas will put this team over the top. And it is not just him, but he being there allows the others to play their positions more aggresively and comfortably knowing that Dellas is back there to support them. :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympiakara10 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Dellas better be there against denmark. We need him badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panathinaikos_Trifilli Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 If this is the way we will play against denmark, count WC goodbye. Disgraceful performance to be frank, we need what we had in euro and what is missing now. We all knew dellas was influential in our quest but by god the team is lower than U-13 without him. Please God, heal Dellas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasili0s Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Both goals : http://www.sportline.gr/football/wc2006/05...07/giannako.mpg http://www.sportline.gr/football/wc2006/05...0907/lybero.mpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GreekSoussou Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Euxaristo para poli Vasilios :gr: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 OK, one thing I don’t like is the mentality of some people in here I mean what the hell is this "A win is a win" Stiff s%$#!, we were a Disgrace today!!!! We couldn’t even put Kazakhstan a team ranked in the 100s away :angry: If you ask me were on borrowed time!! Were gone, we can’t beat Denmark and will struggle to beat Georgia as well..... This team needs a shake up and what I mean by shake up, I mean the following players dropped: Vryzaz = to old and s%$#!…. Charisteas = Lazy, not playing well at the moment, when he find his form then he will be welcomed Basinas = No team no Country Kafes = has been s%$#! for a long time, when is this stubborn fool going to realize that its time to axe him!!! Otto talks about not putting players on based on favoritism well if u look at the whole line it is based on favoritism!!!!! His favorites from Euro 2004!!! There is no way in hell Basinas,Vryzaz, Kafes & Charisteas should be playing on this team based on there performances and the fact that one hasn’t even got a club….. My final prediction will be this Greece 0 – 2 Denmark Georgia 1- 1 Greece P.S Im being nice with the scores as well, so for me this isn’t a time to celebrate… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympiakara10 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Why in the world is Nikopolidi out of his goal and on Kazahkstan's side of the goal where Lyberopoulos scores???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamaki3 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Nikopolidis is the real hero!!! If u watch the winning goal Nikopolidis was all over the place, except when he fell. Thank god he fought for the header or else we would not have won. Also, the goal they scored on us wasnt even his fault. http://www.sportline.gr/football/wc2006/05...0907/lybero.mpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC_Olympiakos Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 We are alive and well say wut u want Greece didn't play the style we expected at all till they gave up that goal till everything was against them there backs against the wall with nobody to lean on there fans already knowing there will be no world cup but they countinue to fight all the odds first by Stelios goal and then the finisher by Lybe granted we gutted out against the worst team the in the world but we had been scorless for 6 games and now i believe were back Denmark will be our toughest battle and our biggest game since winning Euro 2004 Denmark is on a role at the moment having finding there way back to the world cup competition and will look to avenge there earlier lost to Greece 2-1 we need to find our defense the won that was vaunting and intimidating Dellas i do agree is the key but the problem is he needs to find a club and will have a month time to get into shape i was also suprised today to see both Basinas and Vryzas starting and i do like to point out Basinas has costed Greece 2 goals in the last 2 games do u remember all you Nikopolidis haters (mainly Pao fans) how u were condeming him for a couple of bad goals he gave up well wut about Basinas why don't u hate on him and criticize him? Basinas shouldn't be starting on the team b/c he has no club and he stinks at set pieces and i have no clue why thats happenned anywayz bak to Greece and the road to Germany its just amazing like somebody pointed out earlier that Rehaggel has depended upon 5-6 players to carry the load Lybe should start next game and we need to beat the Danes we need to find our Denfensive form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aek21 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Lybe scored a great goal, what a cool finish. With some many bodies in the box he just chips it in the net. Both teams must of been in the box, even nikopolidis. My god what a crazy finish. I just saw the first half, we should have had atleast 4 goals. The kazakh players barely ever won the ball, one guy turned his back as the ball was landing... funny stuff. We definately lack a sting in the tail. Charisteas is useless, to me he was hugely disapointing. Vryzas was ok, not a threat on goal but he was winning possesion and keeping play alive, making runs. Giannakopoulos, Fyssas, Zagorakis, Lybe, Nikopolidis, Kapsis and Seitaridis were easily our best players today from what atleast what I've seen. When Ukraine played Kazakhstan they played much like us. Ukraine went on unbeaten until they played turkey today. So don't think this performance was a let down, even though there are areas that still need improvement. I feel like we're going to be back in business, when we play denmark with dellas back we will be ready. My worry now is that even if we do get a playoff spot, we could end up playing either France, England, Spain, Czech and Croatia I mean teams that are truly worthy of being in the World Cup. So even if we come second things don't look so gloomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loup Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Both goals : http://www.sportline.gr/football/wc2006/05...07/giannako.mpg http://www.sportline.gr/football/wc2006/05...0907/lybero.mpg thanks buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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