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Looks like Greece will be in pot 2 for the next World Cup qualification as expected.

WCQ Draw November 25, 2007 - Europe 8 groups of 6 and 1 of 5

Top 9 automtically qualify + 8 of 9 2nd palce teams face of 4 vs. 4 for last 4 spots.

These are the latest UEFA coefficients for national teams, which will determine the pots used for drawing the World Cup qualifying groups in November. All the latest results are included.

This is determined by the average number of points from games in Euro 2008 qualifying plus World Cup 2006 qualifying. First tiebreaker is PPG from the most recent competition, then average goal differential.

Italy is seeded first due to their World Cup championship. I'm assuming that Montenegro will be put in the bottom pot like Kazakhstan was in 2006. There will be 9 groups for WCQ, so the first 9 teams will comprise the first pot.

There are only a few more games for each team, so there won't be huge changes from here on out. Still, there's plenty of drama for teams on the verge of moving up or down a pot, especially for that top pot. It looks like there are 6 teams fighting for the last 3 spots in the first pot.

CURRENT POTS

Pot 1: Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Croatia, Sweden, England, Romania, Czech, Poland

Pot 2: Portugal, Spain, France, Greece, Turkey, Russia, Ukraine, Serbia, Norway

Pot 3: Israel, Denmark, Switzerland, Scotland, Bulgaria, Ireland, Slovakia, Bosnia, Finland

Pot 4: Austria, N.Ireland, Hungary, Slovenia, Belgium, Albania, Lithuania, Latvia, Wales

Pot 5: Estonia, Belarus, FYROM, Georgia, Cyprus, Armenia, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Moldova

Pot 6: Azerbaijan, Malta, Kazakhstan, Andorra, Faroe Islands, Luxembourgh, San Marino, Montenegro

RANKING

Overall Games Points

Pot 1

1 Italy 2.263 19 43

2 Germany 2.750 8 22

3 Netherlands 2.600 20 52

4 Croatia 2.474 19 47

5 Sweden 2.389 18 43

6 England 2.368 19 45

7 Romania 2.250 20 45

8 Czech 2.238 21 47

9 Poland 2.143 21 45

Pot 2

10 Portugal 2.136 22 47

11 Spain 2.053 19 39

12 France 2.053 19 39

13 Greece 2.000 20 40

14 Turkey 2.000 20 40

15 Russia 1.952 21 41

16 Ukraine 1.900 20 38

17 Serbia 1.900 20 38

18 Norway 1.842 19 35

Pot 3

19 Israel 1.842 19 35

20 Denmark 1.800 20 36

21 Switzerland 1.800 10 18

22 Scotland 1.789 19 34

23 Bulgaria 1.737 19 33

24 Ireland 1.632 19 31

25 Slovakia 1.571 21 33

26 Bosnia 1.526 19 29

27 Finland 1.522 23 35

Pot 4

28 Austria 1.500 10 15

29 N.Ireland 1.316 19 25

30 Hungary 1.211 19 23

31 Slovenia 1.158 19 22

32 Belgium 1.150 20 23

33 Albania 1.100 20 22

34 Lithuania 1.053 19 20

35 Latvia 1.050 20 21

36 Wales 1.000 18 18

Pot 5

37 Estonia 0.955 22 21

38 Belarus 0.895 19 17

39 FYROM 0.810 21 17

40 Georgia 0.810 21 17

41 Cyprus 0.778 18 14

42 Armenia 0.750 20 15

43 Iceland 0.632 19 12

44 Liechtenstein 0.571 21 12

45 Moldova 0.526 19 10

Pot 6

46 Azerbaijan 0.444 18 8

47 Malta 0.444 18 8

48 Kazakhstan 0.364 22 8

49 Andorra 0.238 21 5

50 Faroe Islands 0.053 19 1

51 Luxembourg 0.000 21 0

52 San Marino 0.000 19 0

53 Montenegro xxx xxx xxx

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I am pleased to see Greece in the second pot for the first time ever. At last we have a good chance for qualifying for this world cup.

Lets hope that we will remain one of the established good European teams, now and in the future.

If we get Poland, Romania or the Czech Republic from the first group, we have a good chance of qualifying automatically!!!

But this is very much into the future, first, lets win again EURO 2008!!!!

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Greece's Group:

Romania/Poland/Czech Republic

Greece

Slovakia/Bosnia

Slovenia

FYROM (hehehe)/Liechtenstein/Cyprus/Estonia/Iceland

San Marino

Sure qualification for the World Cup !!!

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The procedure for the UEFA EURO 2008™ final tournament draw in Lucerne, Switzerland, on 2 December was approved by the UEFA Executive Committee at its meeting in Istanbul today.

Holders Greece

Consequently, hosts Switzerland and Austria will be placed in groups A1 and B1 respectively. The other 14 nations will be split into four pots. Pot 1 will comprise the reigning European champions Greece if they qualify, as well as the team with the highest coefficient. The other countries will then be placed in the three remaining pots based on the coefficient obtained in the qualifying competition for the 2006 FIFA World Cup and for this EURO. The event will take place at the Konzert und Kongresszentrum in Lucerne, starting at 12.00CET.

Durban draw

The UEFA Executive Committee also decided that the draw for the European qualifying competition for the 2010 World Cup – to take place in Durban, South Africa, on 25 November – would be based on FIFA national team rankings. In accordance with the decision at its meeting in Heerenveen, Netherlands, in June, the format for the European qualifiers will be eight groups of six teams, and one group of five. The nine group winners will qualify directly, with the best eight runners-up featuring in home and away play-off matches for the remaining four places.

Source.

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IS this true?????

Seeding

After initially proposing to use a similar system to recent World Cup and European Championship qualification (based on results across the previous two European qualification cycles), the UEFA Executive Committee decided on 27 September 2007 at its meeting in Istanbul that seeding for the qualifiers would be based on FIFA World Rankings, in accordance with the FIFA World Cup regulations (which note that where teams are ranked on "performance" criteria, the FIFA World Rankings must be used).[1]

The FIFA World Ranking used for seeding will be the most recent at the time of the preliminary draw, namely the November edition. Initially scheduled for 21 November, the release date was moved to 23 November to include the final match days of Euro2008 qualification[2].

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IF SO:

Prev. rank (Sep 2007)

Ranking Zonal Ranking Team Pts

Oct 07 +/- Ranking

Sep 07 +/- Pts

Sep 07

3 1 Italy 1387 -2 -101

4 2 France 1271 2 51

5 3 Germany 1245 -1 -85

6 4 Spain 1226 1 48

7 5 Netherlands 1207 -2 -39

8 6 Portugal 1203 0 34

9 7 Czech Republic 1174 2 92

10 8 Croatia 1155 0 4

11 9 England 1137 -2 -28

12 10 Romania 1086 0 49

13 11 Scotland 1049 1 24

14 12 Greece 1034 1 94

16 13 Russia 960 10 109

20 14 Poland 837 -4 -89

21 15 Norway 830 8 67

22 16 Ukraine 828 -5 -72

24 17 Sweden 821 -4 -67

27 18 Serbia 786 -5 -91

28 19 Turkey 771 -7 -112

29 20 Denmark 769 -1 -25

32 21 Republic of Ireland 722 0 -11

34 22 Bulgaria 717 1 -10

36 23 Northern Ireland 716 0 9

37 24 Israel

41 25 Switzerland 676 1 -7

44 26 Finland 667 0 -11

48 27 Hungary 630 7 86

48 28 Bosnia-Herzegovina 630 -9 -56

50 29 Slovakia 600 -4 -63

54 30 Belgium 577 6 68

57 31 Cyprus 556 11 104

58 32 Wales 521 -5 -30

61 33 Moldova 497 20 84

70 34 Albania 455 8 35

71 35 Georgia 447 33 120

75 36 FYR Macedonia 423 -8 -32

76 37 Slovenia 422 -1 -7

79 38 Iceland 410 1 -4

82 39 Armenia 400 5 7

86 40 Latvia 386 8 22

88 41 Austria 382 -3 -13

90 42 Lithuania 380 -6 -18

94 43 Belarus 358 -24 -87

116 44 Azerbaijan 279 -1 -8

119 45 Liechtenstein 262 23 96

122 46 Kazakhstan 249 -2 -10

130 47 Estonia 211 -3 -27

137 48 Malta 196 -13 -54

150 49 Luxembourg 132 26 88

171 50 Montenegro 65 15 44

173 51 Andorra 61 -4 1

194 52 Faroe Islands 12 -1 -5

196 53 San Marino 6 0 0

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IF SO:

Prev. rank (Sep 2007)

Ranking Zonal Ranking Team Pts

Oct 07 +/- Ranking

Sep 07 +/- Pts

Sep 07

3 1  Italy 1387 -2  -101

4 2  France 1271 2  51

5 3  Germany 1245 -1  -85

6 4  Spain 1226 1  48

7 5  Netherlands 1207 -2  -39

8 6  Portugal 1203 0  34

9 7  Czech Republic 1174 2  92

10 8  Croatia 1155 0  4

11 9  England 1137 -2  -28

12 10  Romania 1086 0  49

13 11  Scotland 1049 1  24

14 12  Greece 1034 1  94

16 13  Russia 960 10  109

20 14  Poland 837 -4  -89

21 15  Norway 830 8  67

22 16  Ukraine 828 -5  -72

24 17  Sweden 821 -4  -67

27 18  Serbia 786 -5  -91

28 19  Turkey 771 -7  -112

29 20  Denmark 769 -1  -25

32 21  Republic of Ireland 722 0  -11

34 22  Bulgaria 717 1  -10

36 23  Northern Ireland 716 0  9

37 24  Israel

41 25  Switzerland 676 1  -7

44 26  Finland 667 0  -11

48 27  Hungary 630 7  86

48 28  Bosnia-Herzegovina 630 -9  -56

50 29  Slovakia 600 -4  -63

54 30  Belgium 577 6  68

57 31  Cyprus 556 11  104

58 32  Wales 521 -5  -30

61 33  Moldova 497 20  84

70 34  Albania 455 8  35

71 35  Georgia 447 33  120

75 36  FYR Macedonia 423 -8

  -32

76 37  Slovenia 422 -1  -7

79 38  Iceland 410 1  -4

82 39  Armenia 400 5  7

86 40  Latvia 386 8  22

88 41  Austria 382 -3  -13

90 42  Lithuania 380 -6  -18

94 43  Belarus 358 -24  -87

116 44  Azerbaijan 279 -1  -8

119 45  Liechtenstein 262 23  96

122 46  Kazakhstan 249 -2  -10

130 47  Estonia 211 -3  -27

137 48  Malta 196 -13  -54

150 49  Luxembourg 132 26  88

171 50  Montenegro 65 15  44

173 51  Andorra 61 -4  1

194 52  Faroe Islands 12 -1  -5

196 53  San Marino 6 0  0

shoould be 9 teams in each pot -see above
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Current rankings- after October

3 1 Italy 1387 -2 -101

4 2 France 1271 2 51

5 3 Germany 1245 -1 -85

6 4 Spain 1226 1 48

7 5 Netherlands 1207 -2 -39

8 6 Portugal 1203 0 34

9 7 Czech Republic 1174 2 92

10 8 Croatia 1155 0 4

11 9 England 1137 -2 -28

12 10 Romania 1086 0 49

13 11 Scotland 1049 1 24

14 12 Greece 1034 1 94

top 9 get a 1 seed for WC qualifying

from sept - oct we gained 94 FIFA points based on a win v BH and a win vs turkey -

so we beat Malta - ranked slightly ahead of the Vatican City team and even if we beat Hungary #48 - how many pints will we gain ???????? I have no idea -30 ? 40?

let me try to work something out:

last month - here is what happened for us

Match Type Pts

17/10 TUR 0:1 (0:0) GRE Continental Qualifier 1342.50

13/10 GRE 3:2 (1:0) BIH Continental Qualifier 1207.50

Hungary is ranked near BH so we get 1200 points for beating them- and Moldova got 540 points for beating Malta last month

so we get 1750 points or so, instead of the 2550 - roughly 70% of the raw points

so we get approx 65 FIFA points

so we move up to 1100 points - past a slumping romania and a down-and-out Scotland

so best guess - with the Croats losing today , I really think if we win vs Hungary that we will pass the loser of the Croat - England match -

I've made a lot of assumptions here

And I have no idea what happens if there is a draw in the England match

but

WOW - we have a chance for a 1 seed

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How about:

GREECE

Israel

N. IRELAND

Lithuania

Liechtenstein

S. Marino

for our group? :)

:tup: Only change id make is to face FYROM so we teach them what macedonia is :tup:

Group of death?:

England

Serbia

Belgium

Austria

Malta

Good for Cyprus, making in into pot four :P

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In terms of coefficients, the hardest group would be England, Norway, Slovenia, Georgia, and Liechenstein

In terms of coefficients, the easiest group would be Israel, Belgium, Cyprus, Azerbaijan, and San Marino

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