Tsoglani Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 any moves have to happen early & often, so that a team can gel.. We cant be signing players a week before the start of next season!!! You know what the joke in your comment is?Salpigidis got signed i think 4 days before season start --> Our best scorer Ivanschitz came i think about in the same time.---> OUr best foreign transfer this year. Only one that came late and didnt play much cause of his injuries was Victor but i bet if he wasnt injured he would be also be playing better than the rest which was already there last season :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCity1924 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 You know what the joke in your comment is? Salpigidis got signed i think 4 days before season start --> Our best scorer Ivanschitz came i think about in the same time.---> OUr best foreign transfer this year. Only one that came late and didnt play much cause of his injuries was Victor but i bet if he wasnt injured he would be also be playing better than the rest which was already there last season :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: true but how were the rest of the players able to adapt to the new ones. The truth is that even at the end of the season the players were still trying to figure out how each one played and that is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar7 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 You know what the joke in your comment is? Salpigidis got signed i think 4 days before season start --> Our best scorer Ivanschitz came i think about in the same time.---> OUr best foreign transfer this year. Only one that came late and didnt play much cause of his injuries was Victor but i bet if he wasnt injured he would be also be playing better than the rest which was already there last season :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: & dont forget about antonsson signed late as well..........& how did we do????the joke is on you & on us :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsoglani Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 You know what the joke in your comment is? Salpigidis got signed i think 4 days before season start --> Our best scorer Ivanschitz came i think about in the same time.---> OUr best foreign transfer this year. Only one that came late and didnt play much cause of his injuries was Victor but i bet if he wasnt injured he would be also be playing better than the rest which was already there last season :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: & dont forget about antonsson signed late as well..........& how did we do????the joke is on you & on us :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYPAO13 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 as a PAO fan there is NO reason to laugh here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsoglani Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 as a PAO fan there is NO reason to laugh here Well since i dont have any tears more left to cry and my nerves have broken in the last 3 Seasons what do you expect me to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Not everybody is capable of learning! Sad, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsoglani Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 he first to go seems to be Bovio and after that seems Biscan leaving aswell. For both i wont spend a tear. But today i read about Bidis leaving and i think this will be a loss for PAO I wish Bidis good luck in his carreer and i wish him to find a team that will appreciate his talent. :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar7 Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 what a difference 2 yrs make. he went from being the assist leader to looking for a team... I think we should of kept him... We let Romero play & bides go... Foolish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 The renovations continue: Livathinos is being retired. Velits is going to have all the responsibility for football operations it seems. Good luck to Haralabidis. He has some talent and I hope he finds a good team to play abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 can someone inform me of velic history at pao and wwhat his credentials are if any is anyone of the be;lief that with velic as football operations solely this is a good thing or a bad thiing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trifilli Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 Add me in the list of fans that believe Bides should be with PAO. He is young and cheap, got a raw deal in the Salpi transfer as did Gekas. He should have been treated better for not resisting his forced move to PAOK, like Gekas did. What an example does that give to future players, for committing to PAO? He will be added in the long list of ex PAO players that will be bashing our management, and for good reason. <_< Gekas, Bides, Kyrgiakos, Nikopolidis, Seitaridis, Basinas, Fyssas, Lyberopoulos. In business you are judged by reputation. An old Greek wise saying: "Kalitera na sou vgei to mati para to onoma" How can you manage any operation successfully where there is mistrust between employees and employer? :o PEACE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsoglani Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 I just read the interview of Velic (below is the link) http://sports.e-go.gr/article.asp?catid=82...=2&pubid=501890 I must admit the guy has a nice way of thinking and doesnt speak around the issue but gives mostly clear answers. Even though i wasnt very happy with the decision to give hims so much power, i must admit that he made me change my mind in some aspects and i could even say that he makes me a bit anxius for the future of PAO (i dont expect PAO to win next year the title but i expect to see him play great offensive football ) :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIFILARA Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Velic seems to have a good knowledge about how to manage a team. Lets hope he puts his words into action and gives PANATHINAIKOS as a club some organisation.... both ON and OFF the field. One nice point he made, and had the balls to admit, was that in countries like greece there is a need for someone like him to manage teams as coaches "come and go", so it isnt safe to giving them the full MANAGERIAL role. This is why we dont see "top" managers come to greece, which intern leads to "top" players not wanting to play in greece.... i believe this is the RIZZA of a lesser league... which we can all see. All in all i think Velic will be good for PAO, if he puts his thoughts and beliefs into action! :whistle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Nice interview, thanks for posting it Tsoglani. I like his focus on organizing the operation with clear outlines for everyone, including the coach. OTH, I haver heard just about everyone in the last four-five years talking about PAO playing attacking football, but I still haven't seen it since Kyrastas' first year. I am prepared to go into this season supporting my team and giving them the benefit of the doubt. Let's wait and see. Peseiro does sound like a good solution, and Velic is saying the right things so far. He is right, players of the "Saviola" caliber will not come to Greece, and he has a pragmatic outlook of the situation. I was also happy to hear him say " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Guys, I'm not supposed to make this public, but what the heck... I had the ear of Velic. He agreed with what I was saying! ;) That above all, the problem has been systemic. The internal culture of the club was one of the big problems. He said in the interview that the team expresses on the pitch the general culture present in the club. Right on! :tup: Yes, unless this changes nothing can really change. That's why sometimes you see a team to play horribly one year, and then the next, with a new coach/management but the same players, they play great and win too! Let's wait and see what happens with our club. I've heard & seen so much in the last many years, that I can't get excited as yet. I'd like to see some consistency and constant improvement. That would please me even if we don't win the title next season. At this point--being sooooo loooooooow--I'd be happy with seeing the fundamentals being achieved, stability within the team, and some realistic hope for the future. Not asking too much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar7 Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 this years annual event of the renovation process, it seems that the names are coming faster than before, & that the signings will come earlier, which would be something different :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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