
Ellada2004
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Greece fall eight spots to #48.
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Great points, I have said I liked the hiring of Jovanovich a lot as I had a feeling he would incorporate the younger players into the squad. The major problem with him is that he stuck with Kourbelis and others who have no business being on the team. Kourbelis hardly had any playing time in the Saudi league and he automatically starts him vs Denmark? He was so poor that match and the Danes just exploited us. Why did he mess with the winning lineup when we destroyed Scotland 3-0 in NL? If he has the right lineup in that match Greece beat Scotland comfortably and we are still in the running for 2nd place. Too not be in the playoffs is a major failure and to be eliminated with two match days left is a total disaster! Your right our attacking play is great but defensively we were exposed and gave up 9 goals in the last 3 matches something that you would never see from the NT of old.
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Its a disaster! Here in Canada gonna have to listen to all the build up without our beloved Ethniki. A lot of these minnow footballing nations with no history will be here, including Canada and USA lol... I was so looking forward to going to the matches in Toronto if we were playing there or NYC. Just so ANNOYED! This is our longest tournament drought equaling the Euro 1980 to World Cup 1994. I have a feeling it will be longer. I really do not have much confidence in seeing us make Euro 2028 especially after Greece got this draw. We managed to f up the greatest draw possible getting Denmark the weakest pot 1 team and Scotland from pot 2 and we made a total mess of it. Qualification done after match day 4? Even Poyet got us to the playoff in the Euros and we finished a respectable 3rd behind giants France and Holland and competed until the very last match day. This is very similar to the Euro 2016 qualification debacle that was intitally over seen by Ranieri that tool. Now Greece are playing in A league of the NL its going to be tough to say the least to get a back up ticket for the Euro 2028 playoffs. Just PISSED!!
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Its so frustrating that we have all this talent and its wasted for what to keep playing Kourbelis a guy who plays in the Saudi League and his never really done much for the NT. Also Masouras should not be on the team anymore he cant convert golden chances as we saw in Scotland. Bakasetas cant be a part of the team going forward he has given us some good matches over the last few years but we have better options. Its like the powers that be do not want us to qualify for a major tournament. The most talented roster in a relatively easy group and we are already eliminated with 2 match days remaining! SHAME!! It was a dream draw to get Denmark from pot 1 instead of Portugal and Scotland who are now where near us in talent. Last Euro draw we competed until the last match day in a group with France and Holland were Greece got a draw vs France!! This will go down as one of the biggest disasters ever! Looking around the other groups fing Kosovo, Albania, Skopia are all in a playoff spots at the moment. We may (hopefully not) see these teams at the world cup along with other world beaters like canada, USA, Uzbekistan and might Surinam. What f***ing joke. There needs to be MAJOR changes or the same thing will keep happening!!
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What a disgusting f***ing match! Greece were given a f***ing dream draw and our campaign is toast just pathetic mistakes in the last 3 matches from goal keeper, defenders and midfielders. The coach who I personally like has to resign. His starting lineups and tactics were a disaster. It is unacceptable not for Denmark but for Scotland to have 10pts and Greece 3 points! Greece have the most talent ever in attack for sure but we got way closer to qualifying for the 2018 World Cup (playoffs) with Tziolis and other much less talented players that many of us here criticized at length.
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Good points I am not putting all the blame on the coach as we have defensive issues in the old days under Rehagel and Santos and with the backs we had Greece would never lose that match. Our defending has been questionable to say the least but we have Kourbelis vs Denmark dribbling near our box and giving away the ball that leads to a goal. Then he gets the start again in Scotland? Why? what has he done for Greece? I remember him giving away a needless penalty in Finland in 2020 European qualifier and that cost us the match. How is he being selected when he plays in the Saudi league? It makes no sense and I am a PAO fan..
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Its still crazy that Greece can actually top the group. We should have won that match vs Scotland and we would have been in a great position to get 2nd place at the very least, total domination and we get nothing from it. Who knows if Jovanovich gets the lineup right and we defend like Greek teams of old then we can win this match. If Greece can win in England they can win here. Our problem is we are giving up way to many silly goals. Scotland had no chances in open play there goals came of set pieces and our defense could not clear our lines. The third goal was a stupid mistake from Tzolakis two in the last two matches. No Tzolakis for this match and no Kourbelis and no Masouras very simple!
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Greece dominate the first 60mins take the lead and we give up 3 silly goals to a team that showed nothing! Pavlidis was useless missed a sitter and a header and was at fault to on the first goal. Tzolakis should never have played this match. Vlahodimos should have started did Jovanovich not watch him vs Barcelona? Masouras offered nothing along with Kourbelis! Greece were handed a great group and we have managed to totally F*** it up.. Another wait for a tournament! IM SO PISSED! XAMOTO!!!!
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Yes it looked great after the draw avoiding Portugal and getting Denmark I was so happy but I still think Greece will win in Scotland and I can see us getting something in Denmark as we will be better prepared. Greece won in England we are the only country to win their in a competitve match in 2 years. Jovanovich is a great coach but he messed up the lineup by starting Kourbelis and then subbing off Karetsas and Konstantelias was wrong when we were chasing the game. I can see us getting second place but it will be hard to go through another playoff. Way to stressful but Greece have to get to the World Cup!
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Kourbelis should never have started this match and should have been subbed off at HT if not earlier. Karetsas should have been allowed at least another 15mins in the second half to try and rescue a goal for us. Jovanovich was right to sub off Konstantelias he was not on his game and neither was Tzolis as I said during the match. Denmark are a well organized side but we made them look like Argentina. I watched a lot of their first match and they struggled vs an average Scottish side at home. I never thought they would come to Greece and win in this fashion. We failed to keep the ball and made silly passes and guys tried to dribble past 2 or 3 defenders too. Greece have to get themselves together and have to get a win at Scotland. I can see the Scots just sitting back and waiting to counter us as they did in the two nations league matches. Scotland only got a 2 nil win vs Belarus and their first goal came in the 43rd minute.