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Arkas is not enamored with the governing party and Tsipras!

My impression is that in normal countries there is the government and the State. The latter has diplomats, economists and international law experts. Before one signs an agreement, one must have its experts (inside and outside the state) to check the agreement one intends to sign. I wonder if a) the government was helped by experts and if not, why. b) What was/is the role of the other parties and particularly the role of ND? Does it have access to any experts? If not, how will it be to govern, if it is elected? If it does, why it failed to point these weaknesses to the Greek parliament? Is it necessary that the Greek government must as a burlesque troupe? Apparently, it is. Many years back Mitsotakis-father and Kiro Gligorov had a friendly discussion. Kiro suggested that his country could have two names. One used inside the country and another for use out of his country. Mitsorakis stated that this was the craziest proposal he ever heard. Kiro Gligorov then informed Mitsotakis that there is a country that is called Hellas inside and Greece (or similar) outside.

Interesting news appear today at the NEA and in the article Σκόπια προς ΟΗΕ: Είμαστε «Μακεδόνες», μιλάμε «Μακεδονικά», τα προϊόντα μας είναι «Μακεδονικά» or, for the Anglophiles: Skopje to the UN: We are "Macedonians", we speak "Macedonian", our products are "Macedonian" The problem is that it is suggested to note, inter alia, the use of the aggressive term "Macedonian" or "Macedonian" to refer to all official bodies of the neighboring state, but also to private entities not receiving a financial grant from the Skopje state for which enshrine the use of the term "Macedonian" or "Macedonian". The same is what the Skopjans ask for and their trade names and trademarks (trade names, trademarks, and brand names). Skopjans are calling on the UN for the aggressive determination to agree to the official or short name of their country. The impressive is that despite the fact that they refer to the two definitions "Republic of Northern Macedonia" and "Northern Macedonia", they also establish the pure "Macedonian" or "Macedonian". This requirement is legitimized by Article 7 (3) of the Prespa Agreement, in which Greece agreed that the term "Macedonia" and "Macedonian" means the territory, the language, the population and their characteristics. My comment: While we were concerned for the ethnicity of the Alexander the drunkard, the neighbors were picking our pocket. I guess that Oscar had the patriots in mind when he wrote Yet each man kills the thing he loves, By each let this be heard, Some do it with a bitter look, Some with a flattering word, The coward does it with a kiss, The brave man with a sword!

The Macedonia-maniacs may wish to read a NEA article under the headline “ Θύελλα αντιδράσεων για τη «μακεδονική μειονότητα» - Πυρ ομαδόν κατά της κυβέρνησης”. Apparently the BBC presented the "Slav-Macedonians” as an invisible and oppressed minority in Greece. According to the report …. Greece implicitly acknowledged the existence of "Macedonian language and ethnicity". Yet she declined the existence of the "Macedonian minority" for decades. In the context of the report, the BBC spoke with Mr Fokas, "his mother tongue is" Macedonian ", a Slavic language related to Bulgarian and has been talking for centuries in this part of the Balkans. In his son's modern house in a village in northern Greece, leads me to the painful history of the unrecognized Slavic minority of Greece. " Mr. Fokas self-designates himself as "Macedonian" and Greek. As he claims, for almost a century, the Macedonians in Greece have been subject to suspicion and have been persecuted "even though their presence was not accepted by almost anyone." "Most are reluctant to talk to strangers about their identity. For themselves and others, they are simply known as "locals," who speak a language called "local" (dopya). They are completely absent from the textbooks of school history, they have not appeared in the 1951 censuses (when they were simply recorded as "Slavic language") and their existence is not publicly reported. Most Greeks do not even know their existence, "the report says. ND and KINAL are concerned and ND called on Alexis Tsipras "to do today the obvious: to clarify directly, categorically and in all directions that" a national Macedonian minority "does not exist in Greece". ….... The response of Mr Tsipras can be summarized as while everything is OK, the ND and KINAL claim that the sky is falling. He also added that "the Prespa Agreement eliminates any margin for raising a minority issue".

It appears that OSFP and championships will be divorced. Because, Last year PAOK would have been the champion if Savidis and the PAOK supporters were not thugs and/or dumb. This year PAOK will be champion. It appears that PAOK will be champion for many years. Several papers claim that Xanthi will become a PAOK-minor. Namely: a) Xanthi will be sold and Zissis will be its president b) The price has been agreed and is somewhere between 10M and 15M euros. c) The new owner will be Maria Kondareva d) The real owner's name will not be Maria Kondareva

Four days ago Panionios was playing against Apollon. Α Τurk appeared at the new Izmir field to see the match and brought with him the panel below. Τhe gentleman (“Mehmet Yakıcı”?,İstanbul) in question stated that his grand father used to describe to him the atmosphere of the Apollon-Panionios matches in Izmir; he wanted to experience what his grandfather had experienced. Mehmet stated that he is learning Greek and his ambition is to post his thoughts and feelings, in Greek, in all the Greek forums.

What would be your response?.... 1) In my book, reasonable people say "Prove it!" 2) Reasonable people accused of a crime say "Prove it!" 3) Reasonable people dragged to a civil court say "Prove it!" 4) As far as know, Greece does not plan to move its northern borders farther north! 5) It is easy to prove that neighbors' theories about the Macedonians are ludicrous 6) We sabotage our ourselves with own and often mumbo jumbo theories. Some of the neighbors are neither dumb nor illiterate. 7) My mother told me that I should listen and not talk with one exception: Suicidal car-drivers must be persuaded to park the car at the closest, safely reachable, safe spot.

Well, I have the Liddel and Scott Liddel-Scott 1996. There one will read φιλέλλην fond of the Hellenes, mostly of foreign princes …...and later they get on the part about patriotism. I happen to have the dictionary of Stamatakos. he writes the same stuff minus the patriotism part. But the serious part is this: The organizers did not believe that the Macedonians were eligible and Alexander#1 did not state that the Macedonians were Greeks and therefore eligible. He managed, by means unknown and doubtful, to make himself eligible and not any other Macedonian.

Let me see if we are on the page: Alexander I of Macedon (494-454 BC), known as the Philhellene, ruled Macedonia The adjective Phihellene is normally attached to someone who is not Greek Alexander I wished to participate to the Olympics He would not be allowed to compete as a Macedonian. He had to prove his Greek ancestry and only then was he would be allowed to participate. He claimed to be member of the royal family which could trace its origins back to Argos Herodotus is the father of history. Nevertheless, he is not a historian by the current understanding of the word; e.g., Thucydidis accused him of making up stories. 7). Alexander I did not claim that the Macedonians (himself included) were Dorians and hence Greek. I.e., he accepted that his Macedonians were not Greek.

Concerning " I'm with you 100% on the ancient Macedonians being a Greek tribe" II think that you should Google "Αλέξανδρος Α΄ της Μακεδονίας" and read "https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Αλέξανδρος_Α΄_της_Μακεδονίας

Should one be lucky to enter a Parisian restaurant, one is likely to find in the menu some of the following items: “macédoine de fruits” and “macédoine de légumes”. I wonder if the French know something about the Macedonia that we do not.

If the people can't be trusted to make good decisions, why even have elections ? Aman! The theory is that the citizen votes for someone who is honest, informed, and not dumb. I wonder how many at Phantis have lived and worked in Greece dealt with the Greek bureaucracy,

I had the temerity to write that “Not all opinions are informed and if the government is bad, the judgment of the idiots who voted this government into power cannot be trusted!" I was received then the the follow comment: Elites are elites at the end of the day. They know best. The rest of you stay in the dirt and mud and tend to the animals. I continue to believe that “before acting, normal people collect information”. Is there a way to get what they want? What is the cost of this way? Wonderful people such as Θεοδωράκης and Μοσχολιού had strong opinions about the “Macedonia” of our neighbors. Unfortunately, they only were telling us what they like. They never told us how their their vision would be realized and at what cost (and I am talking about money). Normal, Θεοδωράκης was a composer and Μοσχολιού was a singer. E.g., did they know that there are 80000 ethnic Turks in FYROM? Was this factoid important?

the will of the people ... was brushed aside, shat on, spat on, belittled, ignored etc. In 2001 Tassos Yannitsis (minister in the government of Simitis) informed us that the system of retirement forced the country to borrow money and in the near future the country will be bankrupt. The reaction of the people forced Yannitsis to leave the goverment. The country became bankrupt and the people want to find who is the responsible for the present situation. The reason for which we have a parliament is simple. Not all opinions are informed and if the government is bad, the judgment of the idiots who voted this government into power cannot be trusted.

There was a time when the Greek soccer clubs were not the property of some oligarth and the players were not professionals. Things has changed and as a rule the club with bigger budget wins. Example: Before Kokkalis ΟΣΦΠ was to be pitied After Kokkalis the team became much better and the referees amical. Then Vardioyannis was removed from PAO. The new guys brought good and costly players. The team played well and won the championship. A few referees had to be given personal lessons in order to understand that a new sheriff was in the city. Unfortunately, PAO ran of money and was to pitied Then OSFP got a new president. He spent money and learned how tohandle the team and the championship through lessons from well known ethician Αχιλλέα Mπέο. Then, last year, AEK and PAOK were well funded and PAOK would have been the champion if the supporters and the president of PAOK were not of the opinion that the visiting clubs should lose by all conceivable means. AEK was the other team with money and when PAOK committed suicide, AEK became the champion.

I would like to point out that there's no such thing as American language, it is still called English. …. Actually, there is no such a thing as the English language. Those who have seen the “My fair lady” know that the “English language” is not a language. It is a tool for societal discrimination.

We may agree or disagree, but it is expected that we will try to use the same facts, language, syntax and logic. Despoina's statements may be or not be true. Nevertheless Whoever can read and understand either the Greek or the American language would understand that the assertion was “match bought by the government” not “match bought by PAO”. At that time many believed that the govenment of the colonels bought the match; the theory was that a victory would make them popular. There was, though, a lesser sin (but impossible to refute) that took place that year: When Everton came to Athens, the PAO fanatics were driving cars and motorcycles around the hotel where Everton stayed. The basic idea was to create such a bedlam that the Everton players would be unable to sleep. Professional soccer is like a sausage. Wonderful while its components are not known.

Let me write something positive for PAO: Nowadays PAO is economically broke Given its budget, PAO fares well; PAO's coach and the players deserve kudos PAO was victim of referee's ignorance; as a result PAO's faint probability to continue playing for the Cup disappeared. PAO responded by stating " In the Cup match between Panathinaikos and Lamia in the OAKA on 24/1/2019 the regulation was incorrectly implemented to make a fourth change from the moment the match was led to an extension. Despite being able to appeal, Panathinaikos FC does not intend to do so. The ideals and history of the club require us to win matches and qualifiers on the field rather than on the cards. Congratulations to Lamia for her sake. " 5)- Typically, pettiness, sophistry and quibbling follows failure; in this case PAO was victim of referencial ignorance and reacted as a man.

Μιά άλλη πτυχή των κατορθωμάτων του ΠΑΟ το 1971: http://www.redsagainsthemachine.gr/articles/140117/xoyntempley-kai-eberton-diaititis-ellie-kai-ippodromos. Τα σχόλια για το match και η κριτική του διαιτητή δεν μου λέει πολλά. Αλλά αυτά για την φιλοξενία με μοτοσυκλέτες και αυτοκίνητα έγιναν και ήταν συμπεριφορά μικρής ομάδαςμ Η Daily Telegraph γράφει ότι ''όλες οι κρίσιμες αποφάσεις του Ελλιέ, στα καρέ του ΠΑΟ, ευνοούσαν τους Έλληνες'', ενώ αναφέρεται και σε ένα πέναλτυ που δεν έδωσε ο Ελλιέ υπέρ της Έβερτον, σε ανατροπή του Γουίτλ από το Σούρπη. Η Daily Mirror περνάει γενεές 14 ΠΑΟ και Ελλιέ. Χαρακτηρίζει γελοίο το αποτέλεσμα του πρώτου αγώνα στο Λίβερπουλ, κάνει λόγο για ματς των 50 φάουλ στη Λαγοφλώρο, με ελάχιστη ποιότητα, ενώ αναφέρεται και αυτή στο πέναλτυ που δεν έδωσε ο Ελλιέ, χαρακτηρίζοντας το Σούρπη που ανέτρεψε το Γουίτλ ''παίκτη-τσεκούρι''. Γίνεται λόγος για θόρυβο την παραμονή του αγώνος κάτω από το ξενοδοχείο που διέμενε η αποστολή της Έβερτον, με μοτοσυκλέτες και αυτοκίνητα να μην επιτρέπουν στους Άγγλους να κοιμηθούν και τον προπονητή της Έβερτον Κάττερικ να χαρακτηρίζει αυτές τις ενέργειες ''οργανωμένη επιχείρηση εναντίον μας''. Σύμφωνα με την εφημερίδα, ο Κάττερικ δήλωσε πως ο διαιτητής Ελλιέ δεν άφησε την ομάδα του να παίξει ποδόσφαιρο, διαμαρτυρήθηκε για το πέναλτυ που δεν καταλογίστηκε υπέρ των παικτών του, ενώ έκανε παράπονα και για το γήπεδο. ''Ο διαιτητής σφύριζε συνέχεια, με το που κατορθώναμε να κοντρολάρουμε την μπάλα σε αυτό το γήπεδο'', ήταν τα λόγια του. Η Daily Express εν πολλοίς επαναλαμβάνει τα παραπάνω, με τα λόγια του Κάττερικ συμπληρωμένα. ''Η μπάλα ήταν ελαφριά, το γήπεδο σκληρό και οι αντίπαλοί μας υπερ-σκληροί''. Με λίγα λόγια, τα τσεκούρια του ΠΑΟ βαρούσαν στο ψαχνό, ο Ελλιέ έκλεινε τα μάτια, υπό αυτές τις συνθήκες η ομάδα που έψαχνε το γκολ δεν μπορούσε να βρει ρυθμό και στο τέλος ο Γάλλος δεν έδωσε και ένα πέναλτυ στην Έβερτον. Ποια ήταν η ανταμοιβή του Ελλιέ για όλα αυτά, εφόσον παρέμεινε στην Αθήνα για λίγες μέρες μετά τον επαναληπτικό της Λεωφόρου; Aρχικά, ζήτησε να διαιτητεύσει και το ντέρμπυ ΠΑΟ-Ολυμπιακός στη Λεωφόρο, στις 28 Μαρτίου 1971, που έληξε με σκορ 2-2. Ήταν το παιχνίδι που όπως είδαμε, βάζελοι στις κερκίδες λίγο έλειψε να δείρουν το ΓΟΥΛΑΝΔΡΗ, που τους έδινε πριμ για την πρόκρισή τους επί της Έβερτον.

On April 4, 2007 Mrs Despoina Papadopoulou (wife of the dictator Papadopoulos ) appeared at a TV show of Papahelas. Here is what was said: …....... - Despoina : I am AEK, but I wanted to see PAO go to Wembley - Papahelas: Tell us how you remember what happened that day - Despoina: The Yugoslav ambassador, I and Pattakos were seated together. Once the score was 3-0, I was very anxious and I did not feel well. Mr. Pattakos tried to reassure and told me: "We paid them and will win the match. Do not worry” I told him then "Please! The ambassador is seated next to me” and Pattakos told me “he does not know s%$#! of Greek!” After that the Yugoslav ambassador told me (in native Greek!): Do not worry Madame Papadopoulou! you bought it you will get it. Notes: Pattakos said that this conversation never happened. The OSFP supporters claim that Despoina is as truthful as the Biblical Magdalena.. The PAO supporters seem to claim that if PAO were to enter the pool of Shiloam the pool would be sanctified.

Today, in the NEA: Marca: "Olymbiacos is the King of Greek Football" In a vote by Marca for the best team of Greek football, the readers of the Spanish website have chosen Olymbiakos first with 70%. My perception is that most of the time Olymbiakos is a matador working against bullocks

Donald Trump warns Turkey of economic devastation if Kurdish forces attacked. (e.g., at NY Times). What about the "We will kill whoever doubts our love of Democracy" Saudis?

There is an article in contra (www.contra.gr) about the Olymbiakos goalies from Theodoridis up to Nikopolidis. I found it interesting.

In the Greek press https://www.iefimerida.gr/news/468762/spiegel-oi-ellines-stelnoyn-me-ta-esoroyha-prosfyges-piso-stin-toyrkia one can read how Greece nowadays conceives being part of Europe: "The Human Rights Watch organizationhas recorded 24 push-back operations at the Greek-Turkish border in December, according to which Greek police officers partially assaulted the refugees, robbed them and, despite the very low temperatures, pushed them back with their underwear back to Turkey ......... Note: I would prefer to post stories, such as the one above, in Greek. The "post in English" rule of Phantis makes no sense. Because, 1) Shortcomings in Greece can only be corrected but the Greeks. 2) The "post in English" rule forces me to abet and succor those who dislike the Greece and/or the Greeks.

Incoming acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney tells @jonkarl that President Trump "now realizes" that he "does not have the ability" to fire Federal Reserve chairman Jerome Well, the fixation of the DNC and the DP-insiders with Mrs Clinton's presidential pretensions enabled the clown to enter the White House. If they were Japanese or had a modicum of honor, they would had committed seppuku and would have imminently raised the IQ of the party they claimed to love. Instead they parade on TV programs and inform us that Mr Trump is an uneducated idiot , unable to conceive that he is not omniscient, that his logic is illogical, and that he can be wrong, I think that the “Trump and the DNP insiders” circus must be chased out politics and out of Washington D.C.