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1 hour ago, Athens4 said:
I think he deserves another year. Let him choose and few players in the summer and then judge him after his second year.
Really?!
Is this not enough?! Seriously, I cannot believe if we will not be able to attract and bring any better.
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2 hours ago, Yiankos said:
The only way for us to win the championship, is to win every single game from now on. Quite impossible...
What's possible is to eliminate Olympiakos for the cup. I never liked Fereira, but not sure how he'll react if he realizes we're looking for a new coach. I don't see any other way, but stick with the guy and make him feel important. However, he is stressed and always trying to prove things, not sure how this can change in his personality.
We are in February. Without Europe. As a team, we are still very poor. I've never believed him.
But now, realistically, there is no better option for the rest of the season.
I do not believe in any consistent improvement of our global performance. Hope on the individual. Go with the pure emotion.
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10 hours ago, Nilaul said:
Well F***...
I told you guys we need better central midfielders..
That would obviously help.
But what we really need is a better coach. Almost all players would play the double.
He should never have come but there was no time to antecipate and bring better...Take care of next season...Now.
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3 hours ago, Bananas said:
Unsurprising result. Almost every player in the squad is down one or two levels from last season.
I don't want to get rid of Abel because I'm not confident we'll find better but if Lucescu was to come back I'd give Abel a bunch of flowers and show him the door. He seems to lack common sense. Maybe he thinks he's playing a video game.
Abel...what a inability...
Really still this poor at this stage of the season?
This is nothing...Horrible, depressing. Non-sense long balls, centers at random. No inside connections. Huge distances inter and intra-lines, a lot of inaccuracies, fatalize accidents.
My warning, my fear at the beginning of the season. Even worse reality, now. But apparently he follows unscathed?!
Another big game, another fail to win. A volcano Toumba deserves better...
Lucescu should never had left. I would love him to come back. To try to reach the groups in Champions! Miss him a lot.
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On 11/7/2019 at 7:04 PM, pash said:
And he's not wrong.
Bluevertigo, do you have any insight/opinions on Ferreira defensively from his seasons in Portugal? Is this a known problem with him, in other words?
I would not be surprised if this is just a matter of players not being fully in sync with the new system.
@pash
IMO, the poor defensive performance it’s a consequence of his ambitious but not solidified approach. Already seen at Braga. He doesn't adapt to the squad. The players must adjust to his idea. The same old story. Propose variability with memorized movements but loosing surprise effect.
Many doubts if this will be just a question of time, a question of players’s adaptation/sync.
Want to defend/attack in different systems. A clear 4-4-2 when defending without ball, but in possession shift to a 3-4-3. Some players out of position, and then, team losing compaction, losing shape, a lot of spaces appearing and conceded in the center. He wants tactical complexity but fails to consolidate the simplest. In Portugal, last season, although Braga has shown really good performances, they have suffered too much in several matches. Discontinuity.
Lower the individual quality he has in the team, higher the number of errors. He neither protects intrinsic inaccuracies nor minimizes "natural" accidents.
What really surprises me a lot is how PAOK is suffering against "poor" teams like Aris, Panathinaikos. At Toumba!
We all know the low level of Greek SL but he needs to look, understand and adjust to what he really has in the squad.
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1 hour ago, Yiankos said:
Φυσικά δεν εννοώ ότι θέλω να φύγει ο Φερέιρα ή κάτι τέτοιο. Να μείνει ο άνθρωπος, αλλά κάποιος πρέπει να τον συνετίσει. Είσαι προπονητής και έχεις την ευθύνη. Ακόμα κι αν κάνει ατομικό λάθος ο παίκτης σου, εσύ έχεις την ευθύνη. Γιατί η συμπαγής περσινή άμυνα έχει γίνει παιδική χαρά φέτος; Επειδή ο Κρέσπο, ο Βαρέλα, ο Μάτος κλπ είναι χειρότεροι παίκτες; Λίγο δύσκολο να το πιστέψω. Σε κάθε περίπτωση δεν μπορείς να "δίνεις" στεγνά τους παίκτες σου. Και σύμπτωση επαναλαμβανόμενη, παύει να είναι σύμπτωση.
Ο προπονητής πρέπει να εμπνέει. Και ομάδα που πάει για το όσα φάμε και όσα βάλουμε δεν έχει καμία τύχη. Αν δεν μπορείς να κρατήσεις το σκορ τότε δεν μπορείς να κερδίσεις τίτλους. Είναι μεγάλη μαγκιά να ξέρεις ότι μπορείς να κρατήσεις το 1-0 ή και το 0-0 ακόμα αν χρειαστεί. Αυτός είναι ο μοναδικός λόγος που φέτος δεν πάμε καλά. Γιατί φάμε 3 γκολ από τη Σλόβαν, και γιατί φάγαμε από δύο γκολ με Ατρόμητο, Α.Ρ.Η., ΑΕΚ και Παναθηναϊκό. Παιχνίδια που έπρεπε να προηγηθούμε και να τα κλειδώσουμε όμορφα κι ωραία, τα κάναμε ντέρμπι και στο τέλος λέμε κι ευχαριστώ για τα αποτελέσματα όπως ήρθαν.
Το μόνο που θέλω είναι, κεφάλι κάτω και δουλειά. Ούτε IG, ούτε δηλώσεις και σάλια. Είσαι 5 μήνες στην ομάδα, κατάλαβε επιτέλους τι γίνεται και διόρθωσε αυτά που πρέπει να διορθώσεις.
I've tried google translation but it is not the same thing, and certainly we do not capture some details. Can you post this is in english? It seems very interesting.
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4 hours ago, Nea Bafra said:
not an english speaking country
Yes, not native, as you, I suppose.
We can always loose part of our gist when translated, and we should try to improve. But, the substance, the content is what really matters. Write elegantly but using an empty style is a pity.
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9 hours ago, Athens4 said:
@bluevertigo where are you from?
I'm from Lisbon, Portugal, but I'm a FC Porto fan.
In 90's when I visited Thessaloniki, I was disturbingly seduced by Toumba's atmosphere and since then I'm addicted to PAOK!
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Where is Jaba?!
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On 11/5/2019 at 5:30 PM, Yiankos said:
At the same time, plenty of mistakes by Abel. Spyriaris outplayed him and we wasted 45 minutes. The problem relies on one and only thing: There is no one inside the team who knows the team well enough to fill him in the moment he lands in Thessaloniki. He needs to learn from his stupid own mistakes. People around the team were celebrating the team didn't concede against Lamia and Volos and they were trying to convince us the team improved defensively. No one has the guts to say that these teams would play in the fourth division of any of the big leagues. Basically these are not real teams, are semi-amateur, not even semi-professional.
The moment a normal team came to play we went back to our typical 2-goal defense without even the opponent to have a clear-cut chance. We give away two goals in every important game for no reason. Same against "A.R.I.S.", same against AEK.
I am also upset with Abel who played exactly the same 11 as the previous games. It's like he's thinking based on the standings. "Oh well, we won 2-0 and 3-0 teams that are that low in the standing, I'll put the same good recipe and expect another easy win". But of course who is going to tell him that? Karypidis? Or the AH reporters of our team?
Finally, I blame him for Jaba's form. I don't see that he is really trying to keep everyone on their toes. Yes, Limnios played some good games, but we've seen plenty of 20-21-22 year olds playing a few good games. He cannot be a starter forever just because. Same with Swiderski. I think this game we might have needed Akpom to start. And what the heck is this joke with Stoch? OK, I like the guy, but honestly he hasn't showed us anything. OK, he had two barely acceptable performances against Volos and Lamia. And you, Abel, think that's enough? I am not in favor of Greek players, but is Lambrou that much worse than Stoch? Plus, he kept on the bench Pelkas for that game. Biseswar has been moved to the center just to fit Stoch on the left wing? I think we needed Akpom and Pelkas to press Panathinaikos and force them to mistakes. Entire first half and Swiderski/Biseswar were completely silent.
I support you Yiankos.
With Abel we have memorized football. He complicates the simple. He is in Greece. He is in PAOK. He should adapt himself to the quality we have and the quality we don't have in the squad. Trying to bring complexity/hybridity (want to start from defense with ball in a 3x4x3, Matos going down, then defending without ball in a 4x4x2) he is potentiating accidents. Coming and going, spreading and retracting, losing shape, opening spaces. Unavoidable comparison (worse) against the Lucescu's simple-practice consistency.
Bad repetition. Team very spaced and exposed, hyperbolizing individual errors that always arise.
I know him well from Braga. Nervous and anxious heart. Lack of more tactical intelligence.
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7 hours ago, Blackhawk said:
Kontonis, the Undersecretary of Sports, closed Gate 4 for the pitch invasion against Olympiakos in the cup last season. He did the same to Gate 13 in the past. Stupid move, since those fans just go to different gates during the ban. How about just catching the trouble makers and banning them from the games?
Thanks Blackhawk. Seeing Toumba with Gate 4 empty is quite "disturbing". Despite the violence, they are part of PAOK's "soul". Its "voice" is needed to shout out loud.
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19 hours ago, pash said:
I think we have a four-game ban for gate 4
Ok. Thanks. But why they were banned? It's not difficult to understand but when and against which team?
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When this league is expected to start? When? And why not yet started? Only for TV contracts?
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No one today in north curved stand (Gate 4 and Gate 4A)?!! Why?
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Hi everyone, I'm a portuguese fan of greek soccer in general. The best supporters in the world! Do you know where I can download the full match Veria-PAOK? And also other matches from Superleague? I'm not finding any one of this season in Kapaki site. I'm really desperately to "feel" the energy, passion of fanatic fans, and tactics! Thanks a lot.
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Hi everyone, I'm a portuguese fan of greek soccer in general. The best supporters in the world! Do you know where I can download the full match Oly-AEK? And also other matches from Superleague? I'm not finding any one of this season in Kapaki site. I'm really desperately to "feel" the energy, passion of fanatic fans, and tactics! Thanks a lot.
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Hi everyone, I'm a portuguese fan of greek soccer in general. The best supporters in the world! Do you know where I can download the full match Oly-AEK? And also other mathces from Superleague? I'm not finding any one of this season in Kapaki site. I'm really desperately to "feel" the energy, passion of fanatic fans, and tactics! Thanks a lot.
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Thank you so much Blackhawk!
I'm trying to get the game there.
I signed in and I had to translate every page to english but up to now I'm receiving the message Your account is currently awaiting moderation. You will receive an email when a decision has been taken.
From the torrents page I did not find any football game to be downloaded but probably it would be available only after complete registration is finalized. Let' see.
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Hi everyone,
I'm a portuguese fan of greek soccer in general. The best supporters in the world!
Do you know where I can download the full match PAOK-AEK?. I'm really desperately to "feel" the energy, passion of fanatic fans, and tactics!
Thanks a lot
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PAOK - AEK
in AEK FC
Hi everyone,
I'm a portuguese fan of greek soccer in general. The best supporters in the world!
Do you know where I can download the full match? PAOK-AEK. I'm really desperately to "feel" the energy, passion of fanatic fans, and tactics!
Thanks a lot
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SL1-R25: PAOK - Olympiakos (23-Feb-20, 19:30 EET)
in PAOK FC
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I prefer Sporting or other club to come here and pay to hire him for next season! Patetic Silas (today the elimination against Basaksehir is historical!) will leave.
That would allow us to try better. Lucescu's return is quite unrealistic, but there will have to be other options.
Totally agree on not wanting to return to those painful and chaotic times when we had two/three coaches per season. But realizing that there are no good signs with Abel.
But that is the point. We are not even in Europe. No additional effort there. I would expect that this could bring greater focus, more consistency, stability and continuity in terms of our global performance .
But it's still too hard for us to consolidate at least a style of play that allow us to create more chances. And we still see the team conceeding too much spaces, they are spaced out in the pitch, exacerbating the individual errors. The team is suffering a lot, defensively and offensively, whenever the opposition shows a little bit more quality or come in a more organized strategy/process.