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Agree with everything Bananas has said, very well put mate! Especially on the point about Siovas commenting on Svarnas. You can't do that to anyone, not publicly the kid is 22 years old and regardless of how good or bad you think he is you don't question his ability in public. Siovas at 32 was one of the only leaders left and could have played a big part in World Cup qualifying but he instead spoke out like a brash child and put a teammate down because his koumbaro isn't being selected. For that good riddance.

I think he was referring to PAOKSYD, and how dare you @pash! Still carrying grudges from episode one and trying to disrupt the podcast locker rooms. Are you friends with a guy named Siovas by any chance? On a slightly more serious note the teams flight to Krasnodar has been delayed due to technical issues with the plane. Apparently we're going to be delayed at least 2-3 hours, which is far from ideal.

Chatzidiakos played his first match after his injury over the weekend, he'll come in and replace Siovas straight off the bat. I don't think JVS owes the public an explanation as to why he's not calling up Sokratis and Manolas, it's pretty clear that they are done as long as he's in charge and we all know why. He's cleared out all the toxic personalities, hopefully the rest of the squad jump on board and continue to follow him as they have until now. Siovas had a big role to play with the Ethniki as the most senior CB but he's blown his chance, whether it was a slip of the tongue or something pre-meditated doesn't matter. Where there is smoke there's fire, Van't Schip has done the right thing, I just hope the youthful squad that's left back in the coach and hopefully get to be part of something special moving forward.

They'll both most likely be on the list (neither are in the squad to play in Russia, they haven't been officially announced yet) and be available to play the 2nd leg. Whether or not Ferreira plays them is another issue. If they are both in good shape I think they are a decent chance to start the 2nd leg.

Kyrgiakos arrived just as Liverpool were entering their darkest period in recent memory. He had one season under Benitez where the team was knocked out in the Champions league group stage and didn't finish in the top 4. There after he had Roy Hodgson and an older Kenny Daglish as his manager who was well passed his best days as a manager. Tsimikas has walked into a much stronger club but by the same token it's gonna be tough for him to break into the starting team, Robertson's form over the first 2 games has been exceptional. I think the Tsimikas signing has lit a fire under him. Kosta knew he was going to be a depth option and would have to fight for his spot so I'm sure he's not shocked. Regardless he should make his official debut in mid-week, Liverpool take on Lincoln City in the EFL Cup.

I don't mind what JVS is doing at all, even if he has deprived us of our 3 best center backs. But enough is enough this type of mentality is what has turned us into a joke post WC14. I don't care who you think should be playing because you think he's a good player or his your pal or you koumbaro, it's the attitude that the Ethniki needs. Now the issue is if Siovas has any allies within the squad who may try to internally disrupt things. The one's that spring to mind are Fortounis and Bouchalakis given their olympiakos connection they seem to be close based off social media. There has been rumblings from Olympiakos media that Fortounis and Masouras are under-utilized and it's seems to be adding to an already tense situation between Olympiakos and EPO. Interesting to see what happens in a few weeks with the next round of matches, wouldn't shock me if Fortounis and co pick up "knocks" and are unavailable to play.

Colak is apparently a done deal for 3 million. Who knows if it's true though, these reports are coming out of Croatia where they said days ago it was a done deal and we've been locked in negotiations with Rijeka ever since. Hopefully it is indeed done and we get him on the list for the Champions league and he's in some sort of position to play in the 2nd leg against Krasnodar. https://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Paok/paok-kleidwse-toy-tsolak.5754563.html EDIT: Excuse my negativity, looks like he is flying into Thessaloniki today great news! Also Wague is expected to arrive today as well. I'm reading that Barca is selling one of their right backs (Semedo) so not sure if that changes their plans for Wague but looks like both transfers are happening. Colak Wague

It can be difficult to bounce back from a big European result and it proved that way tonight we looked fatigued mentally and physically. Still have work to do when we are the team with the bulk of possession.

In the US and here in Austria they do, but we are talking about Greece re pash. Where men are men!

He hasn't been afraid to shoot and take on a few players that's for sure! I think he might be struggling with a concussion tbh let's see if he can play through it. I've been impressed with Schwab's passing ability he really can pick a pass

A couple of changes for tonight's game. -----------Zivkovic ---------Mihaj---Varela----Michailidis Biseswar--------------------------------Giannoulis --------------Esiti------Schwab Tzolis---------Swiderski-------A.Zivkovic Bench: Pasxa, Ingason, El Kaddouri, Perreira, Vrakas, Crespo, Koutsias, Pelkas, Ninua Interested to see how Andrija Zivkovic making his first start. I also like that Abel is giving Ingason, El Kaddouri and Pelkas a bit of a rest we have a big few weeks coming up 4 games in 14 or so days. I'd expect if we are a couple of goals up Perreira will be given some mins in order to give Giannoulis a bit of a rest, but let's see how the game plays out.

I agree from a club point of view a buy-out clause makes no sense. It's the players and or their managers that would push it IMO. Especially a Tzolis or Giannoulis who would have their eyes firmly set on a move abroad at some point, the buyout options doesn't allow the club to stop them leaving if it's met. I believe it's also used as a negotiating tool, "Ok I won't insist on a 500k a year salary, I'll take 400K but I want a buyout option inserted into my contract" Clubs don't tend to keep players against their will for the most part, but we've seen this past summer with Messi and Barca so it does happen.

We have made an instagram account guys. Those of you with Insta feel free to give us a follow! https://www.instagram.com/paok_talk/

The whole game has been uploaded on YouTube, not if it'll last but it's there now for anyone who wants to re-watch! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwSXDjOHGc4

With Leganes being relegated, Siovas has been sold to the newly promoted SD Huesca for 1 million Euros. So he'll remain in La Liga, he has signed a 2 year deal. https://www.sport24.gr/football/EllinesExoterikou/siovas-xryso-symvolaio-me-oyeska.5753170.html

What is going on there? You have definitely stumbled upon something there potentially, nice detective work!

Just listening to some radio and they had a Croatian journalist on, who said a few weeks ago we made an offer to Rijeka for their striker Antonio Colak for 2 million which was rejected. There are some whispers that we may return with a new and improved offer given the Akpom sale. Whoever we decide to go after I agree, we need to move quick. We are also moving to re-sign Giannoulis which is absolutely 1000% the right move, do not let another player get into the last year of their contract!!

Shakhov is being linked with a move to AEK

3 million isn't bad, again we need to keep in mind he was entering the final year of his contract. I believe we signed him for 1-1.5ish? So we've turned a profit and he's been a good player for us. I'm reading we're working on his replacement and we have someone lined up, I hope so because I would not feel confident heading into the the matches against Krasnador with Swiderski leading the line.

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Silly yellows too, Pelkas and Mixalidis ones were dumb fouls that they did not need to make. We need to get more dangerous on the counter in the 2nd half, we can't keep defending wave after wave of Benfica attacks. We need to give them something to think about defensively, Zivkovic to come on in the first 10-15.

Grimaldo is starting but is apparently coming off a long injury lay-off so hopefully he's a little rusty. I don't think Crespo will be expected to be overly attacking, we'll do most of our attacking down the left through Giannoulis. Since Matos is on the outs, Lyratzis was only recalled to the first team training sessions 2 weeks ago, Crespo was basically the only option left.

No surprises with the starting XI, Crespo starting at right wing back. Ζίβκοβιτς, Κρέσπο, Ίνγκασον, Βαρέλα, Μιχαηλίδης, Γιαννούλης, Ελ Καντουρί, Σβαμπ, Πέλκας, Τζόλης, Άκπομ. Στον πάγκο βρίσκονται οι: Πασχαλάκης, Μιχάι, Σβιντέρσκι, Α. Ζίβκοβιτς, Μπίσεσβαρ, Εσίτι, Νινούα.

Most likely over the weekend, with our time difference it's the easiest time for myself and @PaokCT to link up and do it.

@pash ah you're very close but no I'm from a little tiny region called the Burgenland, it does boarder with Gratz though so good guess! You have a keen ear for accents