georgelaz
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without both manolas and sokratis I don't see us beating bosnia. dzeko is prolific at both club and international level and he's due a goal against us
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Mavropanos has barely played this season and he might be injured. Wenger rated him, Emery not as much it seems.
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most likely we'll finish between 2nd and 4th. To a lesser extent 1st and 5th also possible.
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Manolas out is a huge blow though. he immense presence in the backline. Siovas is quality but not the same.
Still wouldn't mind 3atb with wingbacks system
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13:40 he said the most stress / anxiety that he has in his life is for the Greek national team and he never has had that on the club level and he's tired.
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10 hours ago, paokarag4 said:
Fantastic watch this, Sokratis on total football discussing everything from what went wrong post World cup 2014 to where the ethniki should be playing. Also much different listening to him say he'll retire from the ethniki post euro 2020, it doesn't seem all the so doom and gloom. I think if he sees we are a realistic chance of making the World cup in Qatar he may just hang on until then but that's a while off being an issue. Very good watch and Katsouranis provides some good insight into the post Mundial 14 s%$#! show. Worth the watch if you have the time.
At 5.52 he begins discussing his beginnings and how he ended up at AEK. The ethniki chat comes a little later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfplRt1mp28such a good interview with sokratis katsouranis and demis.
kats was basically saying that new coach, (losing a great one in santos) new atmosphere, 4 key players gone (salpingidis, karagounis, samaras, gekas) and there was a bit of arrogance because we did so well world cup 2014.
Sokratis was saying he had an idea to come back to greece to close his career but now is thinking more USA or China. He also was saying that he's optimistic about the squad because he feels there are a lot of new players that he can tell bleed for the Greek NT and that's what we need.
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1 hour ago, Jimmyp said:
If it’s teally an injury, then hopefully he recovers quickly. If it’s not, get rid of him and his attitude and put someone in who wants to play.
yeah he didn't mention in the interview and was talking about taking liechesenstein on and how he's familiar with siovas as a partner. so might be a false rumour or a training injury imo.
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44 minutes ago, Argy said:
Still the only player in the last decade for the NT that has really gone at defenders and made opponents uncomfortable. Something this dull midfield desperately lacks.
Masouras and Donis do that too. Chatzigiovannis does it for Pao. All in form and all possible prospect for NT. The only thing Fetfa brought that these guys don't have is 5* fifa skillz lol.
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44 minutes ago, Argy said:
Bittersweet from our captain. The last kick at the can for a generational Greek talent. Looking forward to seeing him with the armband and hopefully lead us to the EURO.
I think he's letting the Arsenal thing get to his head. If he was on a team like Dortmund I don't think he would retire like that. That's stuff that English, French, etc. players do. Under dog teams like us the players play till they retire ie Karagounis taking us to knockouts beating Russia when he was 35.
Sokratis is very frustrated with the NT. The fans not showing support. The greek players with loser mentalities. It's just not fun for him anymore and he feels like he's putting water in a hole with a bucket. I hope he changes his mind but at the same time him publically saying that also is a bad attitude. Much like Messi doing that with Argentina. whereas Ronaldo never has thought of stepping down from Portugal. Ronaldo is always wanting to play for it all and takes responsibility. That's why for me I like Ronald much more then Messi.Ronaldo lifts everyone around him. Whereas Messi is passive aggressive and trys to get player he doesn't like away from the NT.
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was sleeping with a Bosnian girl a few years ago that ended on bad terms so I hope we smoke them like 5-0. Please Ethiniki. lol
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every coach benches Fetfa. He must be dog s%$#! in training or something.
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7 hours ago, Argy said:
I don't care how in form players like Bakasetas and Mantalos are, they cannot raise their game to European class. When was the last time they stood out for the National team? Not even vs the minnows...I have no faith in those two players; they just dont have it in them.
Player I have unalterable faith in: Sokratis (Manolas as well but he is injured)
Players that have the ability to elevate their game and hope to see all of them in the starting XI vs Bosnia: Fortounis, Siovas, Vlachodimos, Samaris, Donis
Zeca will run and work hard, fine. Koutris has ability. Hope to see him play.
Mitroglou if he gets service, and that's a big IF, can make a difference, but I've to written him off lately because of his laziness and the fact his teammates cannot get him the ball in the box. I would much rather give Koulouris the start.
Some of the players from the Greek league like Masouras, Bakakis, Siopis, Bouchalakis, Kourbelis, haven't shown much, but open to seeing more of them.
Two cypriot leaguers, Kolovos and Mavrias, had promise once upon a time, but can't expect much coming from that league. They were lazy call-ups by Athanasiadis IMO. Hope they prove me wrong, but I don't think they will see the pitch. We have in-form players in more competitive leagues around Europe that were unfortunately overlooked.
Valerianos and Risvanis, that's what you get when 5 NT calibre defenders are injured.
if you look at my starting 11 it didn't include mantalos or baka
all these players are in form and good enough. Mantalos is really good if he plays as CAM or CM. Off the bench for Fortounis if Fortounis gets gassed or Pelkas. Torosidis also good off the bench for 60 mins. So 2 nice substitution options there. Koulouris can come on for Mitro too to confuse the oppositions defense with a different styled striker.
mitroglou
donis fortounis masouras
zeca samaris
koutris siovas sokratis bakakis
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actually besides Manolas all of our starting 11 is in form and we have Siovas to patch it up who's in form. So slightly optimistic
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mitroglou
donis fortounis masouras
zeca samaris
koutris siovas sokratis bakakis
odyesseaswould be the best lineup
samaris is back in form and playing regularly for benfica (on top of the league and in europa )
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sokratis and mavropanos fun quiz game for arsenal tv
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24 minutes ago, Rockafeller Skank said:
I actually Agree that they re not that big yet to need to hurry up with the process of "nationalizing" them, but I ask you this. If they actually end up good and we go hunting on them to join us, then what?
They are BOTH products of Greek football, Greek academies, They re both in Greece for over ~20 years (Durmisaj came here when he was 4,5), they both speak Greek. So I am all set for them to get called, even if they don't στεριώσουν with the team.
Noone cried about Ninis back then, Holebas either. C'mon. Vlachodimos is not that Greek either but noone is complaining, in fact you were crying for the coaches not picking him.
Ninis Holebas and Vlacho are actually Greek ethnically though. But yeah i'm all for nabbing them now in case they get good.
has there ever been a player that missed out really though? only one I can think of is Castillo but we actually tried to get him and he chose Mexico then dissapeared to oblivion. If he just stuck to what he knows Greece/Olympiakos would've been a legend i think.
switching clubs is always a risky move.
vrousaii is vrousaii consistently starting and playing don't really follow that league? our best and most in form wingers right now are Donis and Masouras from what I've followed. 3rd string Chatzigiovannis unless I'm forgetting someone. It was Fetfa until he went to Aris and Lazaros till the injury though. Paying attention to form is important.
there's a greek player on vrousaii as well pavlidis that I don't know how good he is but is putting same numbers as Vrousaii about 8 games and 3 goals
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Bakakis isn't much worse then Tsimikas or Koutris and he was a key player for AEKs title run.
Torosidis is still okay for one more compaign. Obviously these guys aren't ideal but Bakakis/Torosidis are our best options at RB at the moment. Retsos if fit and in form is up there too.
Bakakis has some pace and doesn't tire easily and he puts in massive effort both defensively and offensively.
Toro gets gassed by 60 but still is a decent crosser + not terrible defensively.
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Mitroglou
Donis Fortounis Masouras
Gala Kourbelis
Koutris Sok Man Torosidis
Vlacho
I'd do something like this if we had to a play a game this Sunday.
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clean sheet tonight
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turks going wild. mitros first goal was 94th minute game winner for gala
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good point. want to add that list that Donis is a difference maker but dude is injured half our games.
kpaps was like that too but he's been massing so long.
also stafylidis.
besides cm and wing problem. we'vd had injury problems.
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Slightly sobering but I think we don't have the players good enough to qualify unless we get a lot of luck favoured on our side.
Our wings and cm are simply not good enough for the modern game.
We're 'okay'.
Best Greek players right now are Manolas, Sokratis, Holebas, Fortounis, Vlachodimos
5 decent players is not enough for knock out round tourny football. We will simply be 'competitive' in qualifeirs.
The euro 2004 team was much better and Greek league was much better too. AEK/PAO/OLY were all competitive in champions league.
This is first time I'm saying this as I'm often more optimistic for qualifying. Italy/Bosnia/Finland will all give us troubles.
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Oly played much better second half but yeah missed a finisher.
Fortounis subbed off was a mistake because he could have made something out of that free kick that Tsimikas took
The game was more lost in Karaiskakis. Dynamo are experts at shutting things down in freezing cold Kiev.
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Laz I think had a really bad injury so is out.
We need Masouras or Chatzigiovannis to step it up for NT to fill a wing spot with Donis. I'm sure at least one of them can do it.
Fetfa was playing so good for Olympiakos I don't get why no team lets him complete a season. He was key in defeating Milan in europa
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One of the things that's annoying me as a lot of players now seem to put their club ahead of the NT whereas it seemed the opposite during euro 2004 and 2012.
eg) if a player has any minor knock now they will miss out on qualifiers. It's not just a Greek thing though, it seems that way with a lot of countries. I think it's because club football is becoming more and more profitable. Whereas in the early 2000s it was somewhat equal