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The stadium is empty.

This quote clearly shows that you have no clue at all.

Good lineup in my opinion. Ivic can always throw in Matos and Biseswar if needed depending on the score.

You supported what?

jvc I had you for a much smarter guy than that. How exactly did PAOK start this, and how do we exactly hand pick ref to call our games? Please explain this to me with some facts. So basically you go on and admit that POK still exists (it has since 1929) and will stoop down to the level of kissing each others ass just to prevent any other team actually winning anything? I said it before and I will say it again. Panathinaikos is the biggest back stabbing team since I can remember. With Olympiakos at least you know what to expect.

If we make CL qualifying rounds we will not be seeded in either round following various league results from past weekend.

Panathinaikos, the scum that they are, dug out some video from one month ago where Matos elbowed the Berg during a free kick and submitted that video to the athletic prosecutor, who called Matos for a hearing. Possible fine is 3 games for Matos. If I was at PAOK I would compile a full DVD with Berg's swinging elbows. He would hardly play a game in SL if those were prosecuted.

Don't believe that the same ref that did not see the Hult handball in the box during our cup game against Panathinaikos will call this game as well. Are we running out of refs at EPO?

VS MATCHUP: P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki – Panionios Athens COMPETITION: Superleague – Playoffs - Round 3 DATE: 21-May-2017 TIME: 18:15 GR (15:15 GMT, 10:15 CDT, 01:15 AEDT next day) CITY/STADIUM: Thessaloniki - Toumba Stadium (Capacity: 28,703) REFEREES: Aristidis Vatsios (Dyttiki Attiki) - Iordanis Dimitriadis (Kastoria), Vasilis Nikolakis (Iraklio) TELEVISION: Novasports (Greece, Cyprus, Albania, Bulgaria) RECENT HISTORY: Superleague 2016-2017: 1:0 (Pelkas) - Attendance: 13,094 2015-2016: 2:0 (Athanasiadis 2) - Attendance: no fans (PLAYOFFS) 2015-2016: 2:1 (Mak, Tzavellas) - Attendance: 8,579 2014-2015: 3:2 (Vitor, Maduro, Athanasiadis) - Attendance: 7,661 2013-2014: 4:1 (Stoch 2, Salpiggidis, Kitsiou) - Attendance: 15,257 2012-2013: 4:2 (Kace, Salpiggidis, Katsouranis, Vukic) - Attendance: 11,564 2011-2012: 1:0 (Athanasiadis) - Attendance: 7,038 2010-2011: 3:0 (Muslimovic, Salpiggidis, Fotakis) - Attendance: no fans 2009-2010: 1:0 (Ivic) - Attendance: 16,129 2008-2009: 2:0 (Ivic-p, Muslimovic) - Attendance: 16,500 2007-2008: 3:1 (Georgiadis, Konstantinidis, Malezas) - Attendance: 11,506 2006-2007: 1:1 (Mieciel) - Attendance: 11,979 2005-2006: 1:0 (Salpiggidis-p) - Attendance: 7,049 Alpha Ethniki (Professional) 2004-2005: 1:0 (Hasiotis) - Attendance: 1,605 2003-2004: 2:0 (Koutsis, Giasemis) - Attendance: 2,163 2002-2003: 3:0 (Georgiadis 2, Giasemis) - Attendance: 4,361 (played in Kozani) 2001-2002: 3:1 (Borbokis, Konstantinidis, Okkas) - Attendance:? 2000-2001: 1:1 (Tetradze) - Attendance: 6,455 1999-2000: 2:0 (Borbokis, Frousos) - Attendance: 1,288 (played in Rhodos) 1998-1999: 3:0 (Vryzas, Valencia, Kafes) - Attendance: 3,752 1997-1998: 6:1 (Toursounidis 2, Frantzeskos, Maragos, Vryzas, Cominguez) - Attendance: 9.345 1996-1997: Panionios played in 2nd Divvision 1995-1996: 2:0 (Zouboulis, Tsalouchidis) - Attendance: 4,992 1994-1995: 2:0 (Anastasiadis, Zagoirakis) - Attendance: 4,475 1993-1994: 3:2 (Luhovy, Toursounidis, Tsausila) - Attendance: 551 1992-1993: Panionios played in 2nd Divvision 1991-1992: 1:0 (Magdi) - Attendance: 4,453 1990-1991: 1:0 (Plitsis) - Attendance: 10,058 1989-1990: 1:0 (Skartados) - Attendance: 7,142 1988-1989: 2:1 (Small 2) - Attendance: 12,317 1987-1988: 2:0 (Borbokis, Mavromatis) - Attendance: 19,079 1986-1987: 4:1 (Vasilakos 2, Alexandridis, Skartados-p) - Attendance: 13,841 1985-1986: 1:2 (Pittas) - Attendance: 22,201 1984-1985: 1:0 (Dimopoulos)- Attendance: 15,345 1983-1984: 1:0 (Psaras) - Attendance: 8,156 1982-1983: 1:0 (Guerino-p) - Attendance: 5,520 1981-1982: 2:1 (Dimopoulos, Kostikos)- Attendance: 11,512 1980-1981: 4:1 (Kostikos 3, Koudas)- Attendance: 7,395 1979-1980: 3:1 (Guerino 2, Kostikos) - Attendance: 9.818 Alpha Ethniki (Amateur/Semi-Professional) 1978-1979: 5:0 (Orfanos 2, Guerino, Kermanidis, Damanakis) - Attendance: ? 1977-1978: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1976-1977: 3:0 (Koudas 2, Kermanidis) - Attendance: ? 1975-1976: 4:0 (Kermanidis, Sarafis-p, Terzanidis, own goal) - Attendance: ? 1974-1975: 1:1 (Aslanidis) - Attendance: ? 1973-1974: 3:0 (Kremanidis, Sarafis, Terzanidis) - Attendance: ? 1972-1973: 2:1 (Sarafis, Aslanidis) - Attendance: 32,407 1971-1972: 1:0 (Koudas) - Attendance: ? 1970-1971: 3:1 (Aslanidis 2, Lazos) - Attendance: 24,307 1969-1970: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1968-1969: 1:1 (Theofanidis) - Attendance: ? 1967-1968: 0:1 - Attendance: ? 1966-1967: 2:1 (Theofanidis, Foundoukidis) - Attendance: ? 1965-1966: 1:0 (Koudas) - Attendance: ? 1964-1965: 2:0 (Charalambidis, own goal)- Attendance: ? 1963-1964: 1:1 (Litopoulos) - Attendance: ? 1962-1963: 1:1 (Savvidis) - Attendance: ? 1961-1962: 1:4 (Giakoumis) - Attendance: ? 1960-1961: 1:2 (Vasiliadis) - Attendance: ? 1959-1960: 0:0 - Attendance: ? Panhellenic Championship 1958-1959: 0:4 (?) - Attendance: ? 1957-1958: 1:1 (Havanidis) - Attendance: ? 1956-1957: 1:2 (Havanidis) - Attendance: 10,000 GAMES: 60 WINS: 44 TIES: 9 LOSSES: 7

We need to do what we did not do against AEK on Sunday. Come in with determination and win the game in order to shut down the media hysteria down in Athens/Piraeus.

Did not see the game, but by all accounts we did not show up and gifted the 3 points to AEK. Unless we win Wednesday against Panathinaikos, the playoffs are over for PAOK. it really makes no difference if we finish 2nd, 3rd or 4th. The only thing that matters is winning the playoffs and another chance with little luck to rea ch our dream of CL group stage.

That's also a possibility. Ivic needs to look forward to the game on Wednesday as well, where I think he will try and plays more defensive game. The main thing this Sunday is to win the game at any cost.

I think he will start Henrique as a reward for the winning goal in the cup. Biseswar has not been training with the team for the past 2 days, but is supposed to be back at practice tomorrow. Hopefully he'll be ready.

VS MATCHUP: Panathinaikos Athens - P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki COMPETITION: Superleague - Playoffs - Round 2 DATE: 17-May-2017 TIME: 20:30 GR (17:30 GMT, 12:30 CDT, 03:30 AEST next day) CITY/STADIUM: Athens – Apostolos Nikolaidis Stadium (Capacity: 16,003) REFEREES: Georgios Kominis (Thesprotia) - Polychronis Kostaras ( Aitolokarnania), Dimitris Tatsis (Ipiros) TELEVISION: Novasports (Greece, Cyprus, Albania, Bulgaria) Antenna Satellite/Pacific (USA, Canada/Australia) Panathinaikos vs. P.A.O.K. history: Superleague 2016-2017: 1:0 - Attendance: 5,221 2015-2016: 1:1 (Charisis) - Attendance: 8,178 (PLAY-OFFS) 2015-2016: 2:2 (Cimirot, Pelkas) - Attendance: 8,318 2014-2015: 2:0 - Attendance: 12,964 (PLAY-OFFS) 2014-2015: 4:3 (Athanasiadis, Skondras, Noboa) - Attendance: no fans 2013-2014: 1:1 (Salpiggidis) - Attendance: 11,713 (PLAY-OFFS) 2013-2014: 2:1 (Athanasiadis) - Attendance: 11,113 2012-2013: 2:0 - Attendance: 13,511 (OAKA) 2011-2012: 2:0 - Attendance: 3,012 (OAKA) (PLAY-OFFS) 2011-2012: 0:2 (Lino-p, Salpiggidis) - Attendance: no fans (OAKA) 2010-2011: 1:0 - Attendance: 19,800 (OAKA) (PLAY-OFFS) 2010-2011: 1:0 - Attendance: no fans (OAKA) 2009-2010: 2:1 (Vieirinha) - Attendance: 19,875 (OAKA) 2008-2009: 4:1 (Malezas) - Attendance: 14,673 (OAKA) (PLAY-OFFS) 2008-2009: 3:0 - Attendance: 26,430 (OAKA) 2007-2008: 2:0 - Attendance: 10,048 2006-2007: 2:1 (Zegarra) - Attendance: 21,356 (OAKA) 2005-2006: 1:0 - Attendance: 21,358 (OAKA) Alpha Ethniki (Professional) 2004-2005: 2:1 (Andralas) - Attendance: 11,001 2003-2004: 3:0 - Attendance: 9,685 2002-2003: 1:0 - Attendance: 13,620 2001-2002: 1:2 (Okkas, Konstantinidis) - Attendance: 10,337 2000-2001: 5:2 (Georgiadis-p, Nalitzis) - Attendance: 9,914 1999-2000: 1:1 (Nagbe) - Attendance: 30,928 (OAKA) (4,000 PAOK fans in attendance) 1998-1999: 0:1 (Frantzeskos) - Attendance: 21,237 (OAKA) 1997-1998: 3:1 (Maragos) - Attendance: 10,432 (OAKA) 1996-1997: 5:0 - Attendance: 4,873 (OAKA) 1995-1996: 2:0 - Attendance: 10,179 (OAKA) 1994-1995: 3:0 - Attendance: 22,883 (OAKA) 1993-1994: 2:0 - Attendance: 4,593 (OAKA) 1992-1993: 5:0 - Attendance: 17,903 (OAKA) 1991-1992: 5:1 (Toursounidis-p) - Attendance: 8,236 (OAKA) 1990-1991: 3:0 - Attendance: 31,314 (OAKA) (This is the game where PAOK owner Thomas Voulinos took the team off the field in the 77th minute due to biased officiating by the ref Karamanis, who has shown red cards to Skartados and Magdi. PAOK lost the game on paper and was deducted 3 points from the standings. 1989-1990: 2:2 (Lagonidis, Malioufas) - Attendance: 32,141 (OAKA) 1988-1989: 1:0 - Attendance: 13,771 1987-1988: 2:1 (Alexandridis) - Attendance: 18,552 (OAKA) 1986-1987: 0:0 - Attendance: 29,663 (OAKA) 1985-1986: 5:0 - Attendance: 46,961 (OAKA) 1984-1985: 0:1 (Paprica) - Attendance: 74,043 (OAKA) (8,000 PAOK fans in attendance) 1983-1984: 0:0 - Attendance: 24,400 1982-1983: 2:0 - Attendance: 6,704 1981-1982: 2:1 (Dimopoulos) - Attendance: 24,000 1980-1981: 0:0 - Attendance: 11,086 (Rizoupoli Stadium) 1979-1980: 0:0 - Attendance: 20,007 Alpha Ethniki (Amateur/Semi-Professional) 1978-1979: 2:2 (Kermanidis, Kostikos) - Attendance: 11,407 1977-1978: 0:0 - Attendance: 22,572 1976-1977: 0:0 - Attendance: 23,684 1975-1976: 1:1 (Anastasiadis) - Attendance: 24,646 1974-1975: 1:1 (Sarafis) - Attendance: 23,886 1973-1974: 3:2 (Terzanidis, Tsakiropoulos) - Attendance: 24,877 1972-1973: 0:2 (forfeit) - Attendance: NA 1971-1972: 1:0 - Attendance: 25,968 1970-1971: 3:0 - Attendance: 18,730 1969-1970: 1:1 (Afentoulidis) - Attendance: 22,985 1968-1969: 2:0 - Attendance: 22,787 1967-1968: 1:0 - Attendance: 19,803 1966-1967: 0:0 - Attendance: 20,449 1965-1966: 2:0 - Attendance: 15,901 1964-1965: 2:0 - Attendance: 24,373 1963-1964: 4:0 - Attendance: 18,374 1962-1963: 2:1 (Giakoumis) - Attendance: 24,229 1961-1962: 3:1 (Leandros) - Attendance: 22,449 1960-1961: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1959-1960: 1:0 - Attendance: 11,441 Panhellenic Championship 1958-1959: 3:0 - Attendance: ? 1957-1958: 1:1 (Gentzis)- Attendance: ? 1956-1957: 3:1 (Gianellos) - Attendance: ? 1955-1956: 3:1(?) - Attendance: ? 1954-1955: 3:2 (?) - Attendance: ? 1953-1954: 1:1 - Attendance: ? 1936-1937: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1935-1936: 6:1 (?) - Attendance: ? 1931-1932: 2:1 (Papagiordanidis)- Attendance: ? 1930-1931: 7:1 (Konstantinidis) - Attendance: ? GAMES: 74 WINS: 5 TIES: 18 LOSSES: 51 All games played at Apostolos Nikolaidis Stadium (Leoforos Alexandras) unless otherwise noted.

The Panionios game is on the 21st, but the case will be heard on the 18th, and there has to 5 days window for the fines to be implemented.

POK through their media mouthpieces is pushing for point deductions along with monetary fines and closed stadiums for the cup trouble. The case will be heard next Thursday, which means we will have fans for the game against Panionios. Looks like only against Panathinaikos in our last playoff game we will be without fans. By that time I am hoping we will have the 1st place all secured.

My lineup for the game: ---------------- Glykos ----------------- Matos - Varela - Crespo - Leovac ------- Canas ------- Cimirot -------- Campos --- Biseswar --- Henrique --------------- Prijovic ----------------

He will end up at Olympiakos once Marinakis gets control of Nottingham.

I would hope for this game the Toumba will be full. After all we won a title after 14 years. Does not happen every day. It may even be the last game with fans for this season depending on the upcoming cup final punishment. I don't think there will fan trouble. Not unless Kalogeropoulos pretends to be Pappas or Spathas. As for Matos he needs to be very careful. Not only getting a red, but he is sitting on 5 yellow cards (Crespo and Malezas as well) and with yellows he will have to sit out 2 games in the playoffs.

We have a better team and deeper roster than all the other three teams in the competition. Like you said pash we will be targeted. I even dare to predict that Matos will be a player that will be red carded during the playoffs. We need to beat AEK and if possible convincingly to send a message that we are serious. Panionios was a tough team during the regular season, but they are just happy that they will play in Europe, so I see them selling out to the highest bidders. We'll see their intentions in their game against Panathinaikos. I predict a clear win by PAO.

Two Athenian officials were assigned for this game. Kalogerolpoulos, AEK's pet ref as the main official and the linesman Karatzikas. Considering the events of the cup final, I expect AEK to get preferential treatment by the refs. The team needs to be focused and show to play. if we play to our potential, the win is ours. And if we win, we basically prevent AEK from thinking of winning the playoffs. I the other game a expect an easy win for Panathinaikos.

On a more lighthearted note, Hitler weights in on the cup won by PAOK over the weekend:

Agreed, but the problem is that nobody in Greece wants to fix this problem. Unfortunately such violence is a tool by team owners and government official (actually they are the same entity) in order hide their incompetence in running a democratic country.

Shakhov will miss the game due to cards.