Nea Bafra
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Apparently it's a label that Australia gave to their Ethniki. They think it's cool, but fail to realise that it's actually embarrassing. Australians do like to think they are the centre of the universe.
Yes, the team perform despite the name instead of because of it
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Impressive. Good for Tripoli because there is no way in hell they could make such a sale in Europe and impressive for Giannou because let's face it he'll never make those sorts of wages in Europe. Not ideal for his career but he'd be silly not to take the money.
Not exactly, assuming he would never get an upgrade in europe, he'll be making a buttload of money before returning to either Greece or australia to finish up. As far as international rep goes he has only played a friendly for greece so he can still play for Australia where we don't have an over abundance of out and out strikers.
In theory he is capable of playing in Postecoglou's high movement system.
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Pontos, it took you what, 5 or 10 minutes to compile those statistics. Maybe 15 if you're a bit slow. And yet, all we hear during transfer periods is talk of getting a number 10 "that will make the difference" or some such vlakies. It's been obvious for 18 months now that the back line is the most pressing issue on the team. Now, if the team turned around and said we can find the players, but they aren't interested in coming to PAOK, so we have to make do in the meantime, sure, I'll buy that. But when they don't even acknowledge that our defence is terrible, well, what can you say. Most of the goals we concede are so cheap it kills me.
I agree to a certain extent Bananas, however I think it's both a combination of lack of depth, the injuries we have gotten and the type of goals we cop. We are abysmal at defending the transition, how many times in each game are our hearts in our mouths when an attacking play breaks down, the midfield is so porous that we concede goals despite the defence. Are they culpable yes, are they solely responsible, no.
We have defensive midfielders who can run all day and do so when things are going well, but when it gets a bit hard there's no gut-running.
Sometimes they play defense like James Harden [a reference for our fictional US mates]
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I go back to a post I made some time ago. The longest tenure for a coach at our club is 3 years [although without getting specific dates it's hard to tell if any made it that far, Santos didn't make it 3 years but Les Shannon might have] if I'm being generous over 45 years. That is a rezili.
Not to mention having a coach last less than a month.
Are things more stable now from a financial perspective? Yes. Are they more stable from a playing perspective? No.
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not having seen a lot of him, but word is Avraam Papadopoulos is being released by his Chinese club. Surely we could use him for a couple of seasons while our younger guys develop. Thoughts?
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no PAOK are more concerned with giving prominence to figures like Garcia because he represents the Communist ideologies of their crazy ill informed influential supporter groups...
thanks for the enlightenment, we hadn't realised this until you pointed it out
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Hey all. New member here. Very new to football in general (basketball junkie most my life). Falling in love with the sport fast though. Live in Ithaca, NY, great-grandfather is from Metsovo (my last name is Prounis). When I visited Metsovo in 2014, I was told that PAOK was the team to root for, so I figure I would root for them above all else. Also, my wife and I absolutely fell in love with Thessaloniki.
It being so hard to follow Greek Superleague from here, though, and shamefully not knowing the language yet, I am in a position where I root for all Greek players being repped in top leagues or competitions. Look forward to learning more about the game (and my ancestral homeland, more broadly) on this forum and having good discussions along the way.
Welcome aboard Frappe, Metsovo is one of the loveliest towns in Greece. It's especially beautiful in winter.
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winless for the rest of the season
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How dis hip hop?
RnB, maybe? Soul, yes. Hip Hop, No.
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i wish i had hair to let my soul glow
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Who is fermandes? You mean rodrigues?
When i think fernandes i think of danni the gk
i think he means rodrigues
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Anastasiadis was a better coach than Tudor, Tudor seems like a douchebag with a big ego. I could be way off of course. At least you are still in the cup, I would have loved for Pao to make it to the semis at least.....
it seems the mob gives more leeway to someone who can strut and growl and yell and look passionate, yet the best coach we have had since Santos we crucified because he was a nice guy and seemed like your papou [boloni]
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I watched him play agaisnt olympiacos volou mate hes not capable. Point made case closed for me.
Now the rest of your post is alot of salia.
If you're gonna close the book after one game, then shut the door on the whole squad and buy 25 players next year.
I agree with OlympicHellas, he should be playing every week and I don't think that he's the kind of guy who can take us to whatever 'next level' people think we should be at, however [now stay with me on this one] do I think he is better or has the potential to be better than some of the plodders or guys like Pelkas who run around like headless chooks through our midfield? Yes. Is it that far fetched to think that it might be worth giving the kid 3 games [seeing as Sabo has had 10 or so] to really find out if he's got it? I'm not restricting this to just Antonis, you can add guys like Mystakidis, Charissis etc to the mix, all these guys have played under 10 games.
Play them now and find out if they are any good, if not toss them for next season and get together a proper squad. We currently have 30 senior squad players at the club and 14 out on loan, what a waste of $$$, we should be able to get by on 35 all together.
This season looked good to start off but has turned into a bourdello fast.
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Nea bafra your making antonis out to be some young gun. Kid has come from an australian league were fornaroli wqs the best player. Antonis never even owned the sydney fc midfied he showed glimpses of brillinace. To make it out antonis is a future emerton, lazaridis or grella is a emotional call.
Emerton, lazaridis and grella all smashed the local league and had part of their game that they used in europe to further excell. What does antonis have vision? Even glykos has vision to pass the ball.
Now about the comment what is paok standard..... to me its someone who has the balls to smash his role and deliver consistantly for the club, fight, spirit and attack with flair.
Sabo got too many games and is just not up to it. We all like to smasg the greek league on these forum all the time but come on he came from the slovak league and got his chance and for me he would be a top player for levadiakos.
so what you are saying is that we don't have a single PAOK standard player in the squad, because not a soul currently employed by the club in a playing capacity meets all those requirements. I didn't say he was some young gun, but he is capable and how do you compare someone who only trains to those guys who play? you can't.
when you put together a squad you can't make it full of right backs and wingers with noone to distribute and you can't make it full of one paced plodders like tziolis klaus and berbatov. you need a mix and right now our team sorely lacks any creative spark or decent passing. I believe antonis offers a point of difference that's it.
you don't fork over cash for a car just to not drive it. even if it is a sh1te box saravalo. if that's the case savidis may as well just do this...
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He's been pretty decent in his last few games, I thought. Worked well with Rodrigues as well.
it's the difference between his best and worst. huge
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If I had to say which current PAOK player does Antonis resemble, I'd probably say Golasa. He's never going to dominate a midfield, but is a useful link up player. The worth of these sorts of players is difficult to measure because statistics alone like goals or assists won't paint them in a favourable light. They don't have that "explosive" show like Mak or Rodrigues either. The only way to measure them is to watch how they play. Someone like Roy Keane back in the day, looking at statistics alone, you'd think he's the least required player in the midfield, and yet, he was the most important.
This is my point, if you don't play him, you'll never know, then it's just a pure waste.
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I live in australia, been invovled in football in australia can tell you about aussie players from the 80's till now.
I by no means do not believe that antonis is good enough for paok, hes like a nathan burns, he can play very well in second division and could do ok for panthraxs and eventially get to a mid level team level like panatolikos.
In saying that some sites were pushing antonis yesterday a surpise by tudor by starting him could be some new spark that could wake up players around him, he is fresh and tbh the way golasa and sabo have played its hard to be much worse.
thats my two cents boys
I've seen people on here comment about a lot of players 'they aren't PAOK standard players' please tell me WTF is a PAOK quality player. Antonis might not be the type of player who is going to dominate the midfield and win games off his own boot, but he's not exactly being kept out of the lineup by that kind of player. We keep rotating the same 4 players through the midfield and expecting different results.
The one thing Antonis has got going for him that most of our players don't have is very good decision making and a range of passing that others don't. Does he have speed? Hell no. Does he have a run all day engine? Probably not seing as he's been sitting on his butt for most of the season. But tell me, if a player had all of those things would they be at PAOK?
I think our season is at the stage where we may as well work out in a match scenario who is capable of staying and improving and who isn't. There are players who improve to be capable at every level they go to and some players who will never reach a level. But if you don't test them in the furnace of a match, how will you know?
I use the example of someone like Mile Jedinak, what did he have going for him when he left Australia? work ethic and determination, apart from that he could tackle a bit and kick lumps out of people. He kicked around Turkey and then landed at Crystal Palace, captained them to promotion and then to a top half finish in the Premier League, when he left Australia I wouldn't have thought he was PAOK standard but we'd be buggered if we could sign him now.
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the fact you are hoping Jairo is back says a whole heap about where the expectations for the season have gone
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in fairness though I don't know that we have gone two games this year without an injury, suspension or just outright vlakies from at least one player.
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what a clusterfark of a season
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Suits
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I can see us drawing this game 2-2 and going out on away goals.
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Is he going to have time to? How much greek can you learn in 6-9 months?