you missed the point. my point was not made to excuse the violence in soccer stadiums in greece. it is to point out to you that a non-greek [because that is what those of us who have chosen to live outside Greece are] telling a greek what to do would be akin to me saying that the US is a mess because there is on average a mass shooting every two months and just like Greece the government is not only doing nothing about rectifying the problem, they are thriving off the fear they create.
Our friends JVC's comment "Stopping these severely disturbed individuals is virtually impossible" could easily be used to describe the animals in Gate4, no?
Violence in stadiums may have been prevented through the developed world but in most of those places it has been moved to the streets. Having spent some time living on Loftus Road in London, what you don't see in the stadium anymore you still see in the streets. That's not to mention what goes on in Russia, Holland etc.
I'm not here arguing things don't need to be addressed. they do. but greeks are goats at their heart. if you tell them the sky is blue they'll argue that it's red.
anyway, don't mind me i'm passing through