Dean97

We already are living in an alternative universe because Tziolis and Tzavellas are still playing in this team and Bakasetas is being chosen over Fetfatzidis. Who in their right mind would do such things? Money has truly sabotaged this team for the worse. It's either that or Skibbe is a complete moron. He should be sacked no questions asked. So should the EPO for keeping him on for this long.

Realistically we only have 3 good players in this current team. They are Fortounis, Sokratis, Manolas and also soon to be Vlachodimos. You add Fetfatzidis and Holebas and we are getting somewhere. Mitroglou has more negatives than positives and the rest are either complete garbage or average at best. Also did someone mention Ninis? ?? Apparently we are never to speak of that name here. It's forbidden according to some people ?. Finally someone on here who has the same view as me about him even though it seems like he has left the earth.

The way we are playing we have no hope. I have done to a point now where I've nearly lost hope for this team. Skibbe has made look like a laughing stock. We can't take him serious. I certainly can't. He should be out. Tziolis, Bakasetas and Tzavellas costed us this game. Yes Manolas stuffed up but of Sokratis was there it wouldn't of happened in the first place. I just want a new coach and a fresh start with players who are talented and make sense.

Skibbe is at fault for selecting them. He hasn't learnt anything and is afraid to play Fetfatzidis. Siovas should have been called up but Tzavellas plays instead. Mind boggling stuff.

I have as well.

I 100% agree.

in my opinion EPO Is the mos at fault. Then Skibbe then the players. The players we put out their today were awful. No technical ability. Fortounis is good in this aspect and so Is Pelkas but Pelkas struggled today. The whole team looked like they tried and failed.

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It is not hard at all. Even with him I don't think we are saved. But we would have more of a chance of winning.

That's what I was thinking. Have the last 2 games as an experimental with the new coach and start again for the Euros.

This team needs a clean fresh wipe out. Starting with Skibbe. Then Tziolis and Tzavellas.

Nothing positive about this game. If Skibbe isn't sacked after this then I don't know what to tell you. He has sabotaged this team for a long time. I'd rather Ranieri over him. At least he didn't play Tziolis and Tzavellas.

Ever since Tzavellas has played we conceded 2.

Skibbe has to get sacked now.

No Fetfatzidis hahahhaahah. I hope he gets sacked.

Get Skibbe out

He wants to be faster in attack he says...

Fortounis isn't as bad as people say. He has no one around him for help. Pelkas looks like he is struggling on the wing and Bakasetas is piss poor. Tziolis is Tziolis and Zeca is not useful in attack. Mitroglou with the touch of an elephant.What is Skibbe doing?

Yes he is in injury prone and it's unfortunate. But you got to understand what a player can bring to the table. You have look at a players strengths instead of labelling players because of the league they play in. Before his current injury he was placed as captain of Hamburg so his level hasn't dropped that significantly he could have been something more now if it wasn't for injuries. What have the so called in form players done for us. It's laughable that Bakasetas is ahead of Fetfatzidis a natural winger. Also Tziolis ahead of Samaris and Tachtsidis? Tzavellas over Holebas? Vlachodimos not capped yet and so on and so on.

Your probably going to get told that he is injured which he is and that he plays 2nd division. You will also be told that he shouldn't be playing because he plays in the 2nd division which is non sense because of the talent he has. He should be one of the first names on the teams list along with Sokratis and Manolas.

I really like the idea of either Pelkas or Mantalos as the 8. Pelkas likes to hustle and is aggressive at times and will win the ball. He is very good at pressing. He can also link up with Fortounis and interchange positions if the situation calls for it. I read on another forum how a poster thought Lazaros wasn't a winger. That is also the reason why his form has dipped. I have always wanted Lazaros to play as a 10. Bakasetas should be on the bench always. When Donis comes back he will be out. Also if Chatzigiovannis continues his form with PAO than we will have 3 natural wingers to pick from next time around.

I also agree that Skibbe's bad tactics and formation is the reason why players like Pelkas and Kourbelis don't perform that well in the national team as they for their clubs. That's on the coach.

Yeah true. It doesn't help having a slow Bakasetas on the wing either. I saw how Fortounis tried to put him through and stopped running. Anyone else would have gotten to it. Some players might be in form but there are some that are not talented enough to move the ball around effectively from midfield. Kourbelis and Zeca are an example. We need players that are creative in midfield that play smart passes. We also need faster and more technical wingers and this is where Fetfatzidis comes in.

The slowness is what kills the team. Fetfatzidis is miles more talented than Bakasetas it's just that Fetfatzidis has always had problems with finishing. Also this team has a massive problem with finishing. Tsimikas I think could add something more in attack than Lykogiannis. Mantalos should have been expiriemnted already as an 8. But Skibbe plays him on the wing. Galanopoulos will play there sooner rather than later. I like Zeca for the pressure he puts and can play sometimes. Fortounis is our Ozil. Controls the game with his movement and passing he looked like he didn't do that well. Even he is slow at times. Fetfatzidis will give us a more energetic and creative option on the wing who can play their. I agree about Mantalos as an 8.

Probably one of the worst performances. I didn't see 1st half but 2nd wasn't that great either. We are lucky to have the defence we have. Bakaksetas is useless it's not funny. He might be in form but has no talent. Talent over form anyday. You can tell Fortounis is the most talented in the team. Tsimikas I though did ok 2nd half. Good assist he had. Mitroglou needs to play with another striker upfront. There are no options when we attack and Mitroglou doesn't move that much.