Dean97
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Vasiliadis could take Bouchalakis spot. If given the chance he could impress and Bouchalakis would be put on the bench permanently. I like Vrousai, I think he has something to offer. His speed is something to think about. I believe with Bakasetas he only performs at CAM. He is of no use anywhere else. Vrousai is more of a winger i think.
Bouzoukis will get his chances soon. Reminded me a bit of Ninis. He has that special something. Bouzoukis is more aggressive though. Has great vision and ball control. He is actually more or less like Mantalos but with more potential. Hopefully he stays injury free.
Speaking of utility players, Androutsos is one to keep an eye on. Can play anywhere in the midfield. More suited as a box to box. Hopefully he can get a good run of form.
I believe Mantalos gives us this sort of spark. When he plays centrally he can be even more dangerous. Surprisingly Bakasetas did well especially against Bosnia. I don’t think he is a definite starter. Especially when Fortounis comes back.
Mantalos i believe is a better captain than Kourbelis. Both can be leaders. Kourbelis can be vice captain and Mantalos captain. I just think Mantalos is a better example and more of a team player. Has great chemistry with everyone in the team.
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I think we have better options at LB such as Koutris and Tsimikas. I do like Stafylidis but he isn’t very reliable defensively. I don’t know where to put him because I like him as a player. He should have a spot somewhere but it seems that the bench is where he needs to be for now unfortunately. If Stafylidis was more solid defensively I would start him without a doubt and maybe even put him captain. But he isn’t. His shooting and speed is very good so again I don’t know exactly where he should play. Technically he is ok nothing special. Passing is decent aswell. We’ve got better CBs and better wingers to play.
Could he play CDM? I don’t think so because Kourbelis and Galanopoulos had great showings. Zeca and Bouchalakis should be the back ups. Vasiliadis is a CM/CDM. Haven’t seen him play but apparently he is good. Want to see him play.
It does seem we are already stacked for wide options and CAM. I just think Pelkas if used correctly can be advantageous to us. Technically good, fast great energy on his day he can destroy teams, as seen in the past against Panathinaikos and Benfica. All of sudden these last few years he has more grit about his game and aggressiveness. CAM seems the best position for him but Fortounis is more talented and Bouzoukis seems to have more potential.
Mantalos shouldn’t be ignored in my opinion. A great player that is slightly underrated. If he was faster physically he would be playing in England or something. He has all the attributes to succeed. Unfortunately injuries have stunted his development. Same can be said about Pelkas.
Sokratis and Manolas can stay aside for now. I don’t want to stop any momentum going forward. JVS has said that they won’t be called up until next year. So the remaining 2 games we will see more new call ups apparently. We will be getting headaches, but for the right reasons as we will have a plethora of options.
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I don’t know if we should include Manolas and Sokratis again. So far the replacements are proving themselves and we look decent. I know they play at bigger clubs but I would rather younger more hungry players who can develop. Hatzidiakos is an example.
We need to find a replacement for Bakakis at RB. Retsos should be a candidate. But I would like someone who is more athletic with pace and good with the ball. Giannis Masouras fits the description. Kitsiou should be looked at. Lyratzis from Volos is another (I haven’t seen him play).
I don’t think Stafylidis should be captain down the line. I don’t mind him but we need someone more stable and more consistent as a captain. Maybe Mantalos or Kourbelis should be the captain. Fortounis is great but don’t know if he is a real captain.
Limnios and Donis are similar player. Loads of pace and great dribblers. Maybe we should have 1 start and either Fetfatzidis or Masouras on the other side.
Wouldn’t mind having Galanopoulos and Kourbelis again. Hopefully something builds even more between the 2. Pavlidis, Limnios, Hatzidiakos and Galanopoulos impressed so they must be in considered for starting spots. Also we have Pelkas. Hopefully JVS can get something out of him. Pelkas has pace, energy, technique and the ability to score amazing goals. His pressing is one of the best for all Greeks. He just needs someone to instruct him and to express his strengths.
We have 4 decent options at CAM. We have 4 decent options on the wing. We need more depth at RB and CM. Also Vasiliadis from Paderborn is being considered for a call up.
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22 hours ago, Alphonse said:
Impressive player. I really like his passing game, forward passes that make their mark
Yes that’s what impressed me the most.
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20 hours ago, AchillesHeel said:
Yeah. I kinda already prefer him over Manolas and Sokratis whose limited abilities should be used mainly for man-marking. He is already better than both with the ball and he will continue to get better....more experience should help him with positioning and covering players.
Yes I agree. He can cover. Did you see the goal line clearance he made when Paschalakis was out of position? I don’t want to get ahead of myself but I don’t believe he is the future... I believe he is the now!
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20 hours ago, AchillesHeel said:
I think Schippper is implementing a system were the sum of all parts perform much better than the individual components so I don't think any one player will be getting a free pass onto the pitch based on talent or reputation. While I don't care much for Bakasetas, there is no way Fortounis can provide the work rate or determination the latter has shown the last 2 games which had been missing from the NT...of course Fortounis will probably get a shot if he proves to Schipski that he has changed his mind set and is fit enough play within his system. The main problem with the current set up is finishing so I would give Mitroglou a go up front at some point if he is also able to handle the new system.
I don’t think Mitroglou or Fortounis can handle this new system in my opinion. They would be great options off the bench. Pavlidis works more because he has the fitness. Mantalos and Bakasetas work harder than Fortounis. Fortounis though has quality about him. Wouldn’t be smart to leave him out completely. Will probably used the way Tsiartas was used. Come on the field to make a difference if needed.
Pavlidis and Koulouris are the future so having Mitroglou wouldn’t make no sense.
We should be building towards the future as much as possible. I think with Bakasetas determination he will be included again. I believe the Bosnia game was Bakasetas best game he has ever played for the NT.
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2 hours ago, Ellada2004 said:
Dean I think he will sit him out. Overall Greece were much better today and gave the Italians a difficult time in Rome. I was afraid we would see a repeat of the first fixture with them especially with a revamped lineup.
I definitely think Van’t Schip should stay on for at least 2 years. He needs to restructure this team. I am much happier with Greece’s performance. We were so organised defensively and stood to the plan. Limnios was great today. Donis and Limnios are great to have in this side. I just want Donis to be a bit less selfish. Donis speed and Limnios speed is definitely needed in this team.
Bakasetas doesn’t deserve to play ever again. He showed determination but didn’t execute and most time killed our momentum going forward. He is not good enough for this level.
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8 minutes ago, J1078 said:
You might not be wrong at all but at some point we need to stick with someone for a while and give them some time.. he already spoke about the egos on the team and he already said he needs to rebuild this team so let’s juts give him a chance for a bit and see if things start looking up as this will not be a quick fix..
I agree with you. But how can you play Bakasetas? When you have Fetfatzidis, Donis and Mantalos on the bench.
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BAKASETAS IS THE WORST PLAYER TO EVER PUT ON A GREECE JERSEY ...
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We definitely deserved something out of this game. All that hard work went to waste with the penalty.
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Vant Schip wants to make people keep on guessing. All these reports are changing by the day. Perhaps he is playing mind games...
The keeper position is the least of our problems. Our problems are at fullback and midfield.
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17 hours ago, Alphonse said:
Good player Fountas who looks to have developed well in Austria.
Good points about JVS looking to put his stamp on authority with this group but keep thinking of how important Manolas could have been playing Italy & then Dzeko... he would know them so much better than anyone else.
Fountas should be given a chance. I was actually a fan of his when he was at AEK. He was their best performer for them back in the day. Now he is scoring nearly every week. Would’ve taken him or Bouzoukis over Bakasetas.
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Hasn’t played as much as Tsimikas and Giannoulis but I believe he is better than both.
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I predict the squad will come out either tomorrow or the next day. In regards to Manolas, he should still be involved because of his pace. But I still rather give youth a chance. In my opinion Risvanis or Nikolaou would be a good replacement for Manolas. Hatzidiakos and Mavropanos can battle it out for Sokratis position.
I would rather use Retsos elsewhere either as a RB or CDM. He would be wasted as a CB. We have many options there. Also I hope Vasiliadis has a Greek passport because all I hear is how good he is. We need better CMs and he might be it. Pavlidis and Koulouris are our future and are both in great form. Would like to see Lamprou and Donis on the wings with Fetfatzidis as the 10. That would be interesting.
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I kind of wish those players would be dropped permanently. We have to bring in the new generation. We have nothing to lose now we should use these next 4 matches to see which players are good enough for the team. No point in having Manolas, Sokratis and the others anymore. We need start giving these younger guys experience from now up all the way through nations league and the next qualifying campaign. A good amount of games where Galanopoulos and Limnios could potentially reach 10–15 caps by the next qualifying campaign. They should’ve had 10 by now.
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You can add Zeca and Mitroglou to that list aswell.
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2 minutes ago, AchillesHeel said:
I would play him as a kind of 8 (because of our lack of proper transition in the midfield) in front of Zeca and another DM. He seems fit at the moment and is a hard working player with decent vision, speed and passing abilities who would make our game much faster, rather than depending our other slow, bumbling options (Taxidis, Samaris, etc). I know its not his regular position but we don't have anyone else really who can do this. Zeca and his partner can do most of the dirty work and he would concentrate on transitioning the play which is what has been lacking most in the NT play.
It seems you want to put Mantalos in a more deeper CAM role instead of an advanced one. I don’t mind that but I think Mantalos should be the 8 alongside Zeca who can be the 6. I would have either Bouzoukis or Albanis for the advanced 10 role. Fetfatzidis can play there also. We have trouble bringing the ball forward from deep and I think Mantalos can help with that and offer extra support in attack. He would also have to focus on defence and protect it as much as he can, which means he has a big task.
I just think our build up play is not good enough and I think having either Pelkas or Mantalos in the 8 position in this case Mantalos would be the best solution.
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13 minutes ago, Ellada2004 said:
Leave Samaris off the team. Van't Schip has to bring Mitroglou back in especially vs Italy who will not give us many opportunities, so if one opens up he would be best bet to score.
Also siovas has to get some playing time in the back..
I agree. I forgot to add Bouzoukis because I read somewhere he could be involved in the upcoming matches. Quality player.
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On 9/27/2019 at 9:12 PM, AchillesHeel said:
Just what we need....more CBs. Triantafylopoulos is a kreas....at least what I saw of him while at PAO. That would be a waste of a spot. I agree Hatzidiakos is quite a good player. Is Schipper going to move away from the Manolas-Papastathopoulos combination? I doubt it so it would be pointless adding to the list of CBs unless he just wants to see and evaluate them at the pregame preps.
If I was going for a 3 CB setup (I wouldn't do that unless there was time to prepare and there isn't) I would put Siovas behind Sokratis and Manolas as a aweeper so that he can cleanup and play the ball out. Retsos shouldn't be getting called up until he starts playing at his club....I imagine this is why Hatzidiakos is being summoned (as a bench option). I think Mantalos is the key if he is played in the middle of the pitch to make the transitional plays. I would go with Pavlidis up front as he is on fire where as the rest of our strikers have been underwhelming.
Do you mean Mantalos should play as a 6 or 10? In any case this is my prediction for the upcoming games:
Vlachodimos , Paschalakis, Barkas, Natsos, Bakakis, Manolas, Trianta, Sokratis, Siovas, Hatzidiakos, Tsimikas, Giannoulis, Zeca, Kourbelis, Bouchalakis, Samaris??, Mantalos, Vrousai, Fetfatzidis, Masouras, Pelkas??, Vellios, Pavlidis, Koulouris, Donis.
Thats 25 players. Question marks on Samaris because he hasn’t been playing much and Pelkas has an injury. Not sure if Mitroglou will get the call. Pavlidis and Koulouris have been scoring. Vellios is also in good form and Donis has started playing again. We can all agree Samaris hasn’t done much for the Ethniki and shouldn’t be involved anymore. Tachtsidis and Lykogiannis can be good options as they have been playing well and have had many matches.
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Apparently Triantafylopoulos and Hatzidiakos will get called up, what are everyone’s thoughts?
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4 hours ago, georgelaz said:
statistically speaking we dominate the games we are supposed to dominate barring top 10 opposition. The problem is just that we lack finishing.
Our strikers are not the best and/or not in best form.
Goals win games.
So if we're going to go for Mitroglou we need to play attackers that can feed him properly. IE) Torosidis = crossing into him. Tsimikas = crossing into him. Fortounis = through ball splitting the defense.
If we're going to start Koulouris, crossing is out of the question because he's not good in the air. We need to focus on ground balls. Again, Fortounis = through ball splitting the defense. Fetfazidis = ground balls from the wings (cut backs), Tsimikas = pinpoint ground ball cutbacks.
Basically Koulours = cut backs or a split of the defense through centre.
Mitroglou = aerial balls.
Could also do a double striker diamond formation so we can get mitro in air and koulouris to bury the ground balls. Koulouris can also assist decently I think maybe. Mitroglou is left footed and Koulouris right footed so could work.
Mitroglou Koulouris
Donis Fortounis Fetfa
Zeca
Tsimikas Sok Man Torosidis
Vlacho
CM looks very thin with this not sure Zeca could do all the work just an idea.
or cater to your striker. If we play koulouris we must play fetfa.
Shame that holebas isn't on the team though as he's the finest crosser and has chem with Mitroglou. They're good friends german greek connection and party together in mykonos. Maybe they could come up with some plays while sipping Frappe.
Honestly doubt mentality has to do with this I think it's just we've lacked potency in the attacking third. The desire is there. You need to cater to your striker.
Good to hear from you.
Id do this...
Vlachodimos
Retsos Manolas Sokratis
Donis Zeca Mantalos Tsimikas
Fetfatzidis Pavlidis Vrousai
3-4-3. Fetfatzidis can take players on and put some nice through balls on the floor. Tsimikas can whip in crosses as Pavlidis and Vrousai are great in the air. Zeca as the 6 and Mantalos as the 8. We need some creativity from deep. This formation can become 4-2-3-1 instantly if things need changing. Fetfatzidis as the 10 and Donis and Vrousai outwide. Both can do damage on the wings. Possession football with urgent pressing.
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We can be a top 20 team. We just need a good coach. In 2004 Greece were the underdogs. Then they won the whole thing. They fought for the shirt and played as a team. We had more leaders then aswell. Rehaggel made the team gel. We have decent players currently it’s all about wanting to fight for the shirt and the coach playing the right players. We can improve. I hope Van’t Schipt does something amazing and the team gets to back where it belongs and that’s the top 20. It will take time.
We also need a massive cleanup at EPO.
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I thinks it’s based on form such as losses and wins. We’ve been losing lately and it’s understandable to be this low. We haven’t made tournaments. It does seem lower than expected but hopefully with the ranking of 60th, the EPO can now understand how bad they are at running the team m. They are the most at fault for all this.
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16 hours ago, Torontoblue said:
Nothing will change. The guys running the EPO are corrupt asses who only want to look after themselves??
I hope this time it’s not the case but I think you are right. EPO don’t care about the success of the team. They are money grabbing morons.
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I would do the same but I wouldn’t put Bakasetas on the wing because of his pace. He is more suited in the middle, specifically CAM. I agree we can’t have all those players in team. I would definitely keep Mantalos and Donis. Limnios is the future and I lean towards more to playing future prospects as they are goodnand have something to prove for example Galanopoulos. We should at least have 3 wingers in the team. Masouras, Donis and Limnios. Fetfatzidis can be CAM and wing.
No more than 2 strikers as Donis makes up for striker and wing. 2 CAMs such as Mantalos and Fortounis. Although I would definitely try Mantalos as a CM which would then free up the CAM spot for either Bakasetas or Vrousai. But Fetfatzidis is a good cover for CAM so Bakasetas and Vrousai wouldn’t be needed that much.
My squad would like this..
Vlachodimos
G.Masouras Hatzidiakos Manolas Koutris
Kourbelis Vasiliadis/Androutsos
Fetfa Mantalos Limnios
Pavlidis
Androutsos, Masouras are my personal choices as I believe that have talent and when given the opportunity they will deliver. Realistically Galanopoulos would start as he has game time and also a decent player.
Maybe Fetfatzidis should come off the bench as he can be impactful. Donis and Masouras are decent back ups. Manolas should be there as he is still sort of young and in his prime. Also playing Champions League. His speed is a big factor.
Down the road I would like to see what Lamprou and Chatzigiovannis can offer. Also would’ve liked to see Manthatis but his career has been going down unfortunately especially after leaving Olympiakos.
Like Douvikas and Manos but that’s too far fetched at the moment calling these players as one is young and isn’t playing but has potential and the other is a bit inconsistent.
Just thinking out load but Pavlidis is our best at the moment and Mantalos should be the captain and CAM.