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    Greece vs Belgium (3 September 2017- World Cup Qualifier- Karaiskakis Stadium, Piraeus)

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    Just so there is no confusion the last place results don't count when it comes to finishing 2nd. I just found this below even though every group has 6 teams.

     

    Ranking of second-placed teams[edit]

    At the time of the draw, groups H and I had one team fewer than the other groups so it was announced that matches against the last-placed team in each of the six-team groups would not be included in the ranking of the second-placed teams. UEFA has confirmed that, even after the admission of Kosovo and Gibraltar and with all groups now containing six teams, this regulation has not changed and matches against the sixth-placed team in all groups will still be discarded.[25] As a result, only eight matches played by each team will be counted in the second-placed table.

    The eight best runners-up are determined by the following parameters, in this order:[26]

    1. Highest number of points
    2. Goal difference
    3. Highest number of goals scored
    4. Highest number of goals scored away from home
    5. Fair play points

    Greece vs Belgium (3 September 2017- World Cup Qualifier- Karaiskakis Stadium, Piraeus)

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    That's why I'm so upset with Skibbes line up selection... he should have went hard with our best possible line against Estonia and guaranteed the win as first place was never really in the cards anyways.. he made a bad decision and it most likely cost us the world cup. He took the Estonia game for granted . We needed to beat Estonia, and Cyprus and a loss to Belgium still would have been okay but Skibbe choose to go with a weak line up and it literally F***ED US.

    Greece vs Belgium (3 September 2017- World Cup Qualifier- Karaiskakis Stadium, Piraeus)

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    So Greece have 10points and Bosnia have 8points right now. But Bosnia have the potential to get 6points in there two remaining games and we can get a max of 3 points since the Gibraltar games doesn't count. Am I understanding this right? So a draw and a win in there last 2 games will only give Bosnia a max points of 12. If we tie Cyprus we are out as we can only get a max 11points since Gibraltar does not count. Is that right?

    Greece vs Belgium (3 September 2017- World Cup Qualifier- Karaiskakis Stadium, Piraeus)

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    Take a look the Gibraltar game is not counted.. I have copied and pasted below.It specifically says "2nd place team with the best record of teams finishing 1,3,4 and 5 in our case would mean Belgium 1 , Bosnia,3 , Cyprus 4, Estonia 5.

    NOT GILBRATAR

     

    Qualifying group stage
    Matches take place between 4 September 2016 and 10 October 2017 with seven groups of six teams and two of five. The nine group winners qualify directly for the finals and the eight runners-up with the best record against the teams finishing first, third, fourth and fifth in their section go into the play-offs.

    Greece vs Belgium (3 September 2017- World Cup Qualifier- Karaiskakis Stadium, Piraeus)

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    @Torontoblue 

    That's what I was confused about I thought the result against Gibraltar wouldn't matter. Does that mean all 8 teams the results don't count against the last place teams? In points and the amount of goals scored? So for example if Greece beat Gilbrator then we minus the 6 points from our two wins against them plus minus the goals we scored? Still a little confused about how that works.

    Greece vs Belgium (3 September 2017- World Cup Qualifier- Karaiskakis Stadium, Piraeus)

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    We played hard today and if it wasn't for one mental breakdown we would have had at least a point today. Skibbe I think should have left Staf in since he was playing a good game. Samaris is over rated and is not that good to be honest but we don't have many options. Kyraikos is made out of glass so he cant be relied on to stay healthy. My problem is definitely with Skibbe as if we would have had this line up minus Sokratis against Estonia I believe we would have scored and I strongly believe giving Tioliz and Vellios 90minutes of playing time really screwed us in that crucial must win game. Skibbe without a doubt was looking ahead to the Belgium game with the players he choose against Estonia and that was a horrible coaching move. I also blame Skibbe for not calling up guys that are performing better like Laz, Fetfa, and so on. Guys like Bak, and Dimantakos dont cut it. Tziolis should never play 90 minutes there is no logic in this move as he is slow and sloppy. If Kone starts playing I also would love to see Kone, Laz and fetfa come up. No one is saying they need to start but they would be 100 times better options then we have now coming off the bench. But knowing Skibbe I'm not holding my breath.

    Greece vs Belgium (3 September 2017- World Cup Qualifier- Karaiskakis Stadium, Piraeus)

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    The Estonia game will completely keep us out of the World Cup playoffs.. no question... 1 point out of a possible 6 is not the result that Keeps you in the World Cup running.. I fully expect a hungry Bosnia team to beat a Belgium team that has absolutely nothing to play for... I personaly don't think we will beat Cyprus on the road but regardless Bosnia are now favourites for the 2nd spot and I truly think they will take advantage and secure that second spot.. I see Bosnia taking there final 2 games.

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