J1078

Honestly the best thing that can happen to us is we don't come out of our group in the Nations League and Skibbe gets fired, That way we have a new coach for the Euro campaign, Even if we do top this Group Skibbe is not the coach to be able to carry us to winning a spot via the nations league and we will lose to one of the other teams with Skibbe. Since Skibbe was with us we haven't been able to beat a good team, yes we have had a draw with Belgium but we also tied Bosnia twice... When is the last time we beat a good team with Skibbe as our coach? it has to go back to the Netherlands in a friendly and that's not saying much since the Netherlands were a disaster as well then.. His choices and tactics are costing us and hindering our potential. As hard as this is for me to say but not winning our group may be the best thing for the future and success of the team. I do truly believe with Skibbe as our coach we will not make another tournament..

Guys read this article about Skibbe http://www.agonasport.com/agonasport-allnews/the-delayed-transition

I guess lets see what happens next month where we play Hungary for the final time in our next match, We lose or draw and we wont come out of our group, and if that happens there is no way we are coming out of th euro group which will be a much stronger group with actually 2 good teams that will be far superior to Finland and Hungary..

We have to face it the reason we succeeded under Santos was our defence, we never were were able to score goals but we were rock solid defensively, The difference now is we still cant score goals but we concede goals way easier.. It's very obvious... We will never be a team to score at will and scoring more then one goal a game is next to impossible for us, so when we allow easy goals against the best we are looking to do is draw.. If we allow more then 1 goal against we are losing that game... Our FIFA rankings keep taking a hit losing to these s%$#! teams.. Maybe we need to face the fact that this is where we belong a group C middle of the pack team...

Our next game is against Hungary at home and we now have put ourselves in a MUST WIN situation, Lose and we are done. Since Not sure why we play Hungary a 2nd time before we play Finland...That means Finland will most like get to 9 points since they will be playing Estonia next again.

Donis can't be judged on a game where he played out of position, If you want to get the most out of him he needs to play on the wing.. How many goals do you seriously expect these players to have for he NT when we average .5 goals a game?? lets be real guys, How many goals does Laz have for his club team for example? The problem has always been with the NT, Even with Santos we would scrape by with 1-0 wins. The only difference is we would not concede during those times and now we concede more then we use to.. That to me is the main difference.. Like I said before you guys can be optimistic but for me this is an embarrassment as we should not be losing to these teams. If we were playing top rated team like Belgium and lost 2-1 on the road then I wouldn't be that upset and I would try and take the positives but losing to Hungary is an embarrassment and it is a step in the wrong direction... Maybe we just aren't s good as we wont to believe, Maybe we do belong with these group C teams.. Our next game is against Hungary at home and all they have to do is play for the tie and they will have the tie breaker on us if it comes down to that..

^No we Can’t be unlucky all the time but after a disastrous Euro campaign and missing the Euros and missing the World Cup I think losing to s%$#! teams like Hungary is very concerning and yes we have looked better then other games but the bottom line is after 2 games we are in 3rd of 4 teams and only ahead of Estonia, this to me is a step backwards once again not a step forward.. What would we do if we were in Group b?? Would we even win 1 game because all those teams are better then Hungary.. maybe tomorrow I’ll see things differently but right now I’m pissed and I don’t see the optimism you boys do..

We were in control against Estonia as well but our lack of finishing will always keep teams in the game and give them a chance to to tie or pull out a win when they don’t deserve it.. Estonia was one shot on target away from gaining a point, look how hard we have to work just to get 1 goal.. we know no matter who we put in this line up we will always be like this.. At some point Skibbe needs to pick a line up and stick with it becasue these guys need to start to get use to each other.. We did have majority of control but all it took Hungary is pretty much two dangerous rushes to score 2 goals, something we CANT DO..

I don’t know how you guys can see the positive in losing on the road to a Hungarian team With out there fans in an empty stadium.. I liked somethings we did and this also better show Skibbe once and for all never to play Tzavellas again.. I did like Kourbelas and Bouchalakis in the mid.. but to me if we can only score 1 Against Estonia how the hell are we ever going to beat teams like Finland and Hungary who themselves aren’t good teams? If we can’t make it out of Group C how the hell do we expect to qualify in the Euros campaign?? It’s the same story “we had chances but couldn’t finish” it’s like a broken record.. bottom line we can’t score enough goals to put teams away and be consistent enough..

Wtf are we going to do with two better teams in the Euro if we can’t even draw with the Hungarians..

Almost 10minutes away from a loss.. and Finland being first in the group after 2 games

Mitro almost damn

Can’t blame skibbe on this attack if we don’t create that’s on the players as this is a line we all would have chosen.. only blame him for Tzavellas other than that it’s on the players..

Has Mitro even touched the ball? Are we even going to get a shot on target the second half ffs...

Manolas out injured Okonomou in

I would bring on Mitro and take of Pelkas and move Donis to the wing

Garuntee Skibbe is going to do something stupid like take Donis off for Bakasetas or take Kourbelis if for Tziolis..

Wtf man we don’t deserve to be losing this game

Greece have had solid possession

Yes!!!!!

Type in Epsilon

F...ck man.. 1-0 Hungary

Im glad Skibbe choose to go with Donis up top, I would rather Donis then Bakasetas or Koulouris... Donis tho is ideal on the wing as his speed and skill can take on defenders 1 on 1

Ya i think he is...

Not a bad line up at all.. for all of the bashing i give Skibbe this is a good line up.. I still would rather give a Lyko another shot over Tzavellas and i would put Zeca instead of Buchalakis. Other than that im happy with this line up. Sucks Mitro is not in..