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Ευτυχώς που δεν νίκησε η Σλοβακία απόψε. Τώρα παίζει με την Σκωτία εκτός. Ενα Χ εκεί θα ηταν οτι πρέπει.

Skibbe was doing a good job until this week. Player selection for the past two games was unacceptable.

Well we have him for three years so he better not be.

Bosnia will beat Estonia. Do not mistake our inability to beat them with their improvement.

Guys, I am thinking about our strikers. Aside from Mitroglou, who else have we got so that we don't have to call up Vellios? I hope nobody is thinking of Athanasiadis either.

Dude there are still two games and there are various teams with 11-16 points in second place. All it take is a win and a loss to change that.

There are three crucial moments that I can think of which may have cost us a place in Russia next year (though like all of us I hope this won't be the case). 1) Lukaku's goal against us in the dying minutes of the game in Belgium, easy to say but we really should have held on 2) Mantalos (who shouldn't even be wearing a NT shirt in the first place - refer to my earlier comment about agents) missed chance 1 on 1 against Bosnia away 3) The embarrassment on Thursday against Estonia

Vellios and Tziolis should not be called up again after this qualifying campaign, the latter being slower than death itself. We played well today and didn't deserve to lose. Some players need to take a hard look at Zeca. He isn't even Greek yet he plays with more heart than them. I really wish there was a replacement/competition for Fortounis as well. He isn't good enough to start. Skibbe is still to blame for Thursday's mess. Then again I don't think the agents putting pressure on him to play their players are doing him any favours either.

I get that it's a lot of money, however I have a gut feeling that he is going to play well in the Champions League. If this happens then he might be worth even more. I am also thinking ahead for next year. Mak will probably go back to Russia, which means that if Henrique is sold then we will have to find another quality winger.

Just read that Enrique's loan includes a buyout option of €5m. That's a shame.

I honestly believe that the weakest link in the defence right now is Leovac. Unfortunately I also noticed a dip for Varela too. He had no composure whatsoever in the two games against the fishermen from Sweden.

Absolutely no excuses for today's result. Sure, some key players were missing but this was Estonia. We just missed a huge opportunity and the way my luck is going in football right now (PAOK getting knocked out by some Swedish fishermen and Greece not being able to beat some woodcutters from Estonia), I honestly think we will pay the price. No Russia for us next year.

I would say this is the issue for most PAOK players.

It is an absolute joke. The reporters of PAOK like Kolkas have too much power. They managed to say that Cistiakov was to blame. The same for Arnesen of all people! Frank Arnesen! Now Michel is to blame. I have said it before, the first people that need ξύλο are the reporters. Μόνο και μόνο επειδή δεν τον βάλανε στο τσάρτερ με την ομάδα. Άντε και γ@μήσου χοντρέ!

Can someone please get back to me on this one? Now that we have managed to lose to a small Swedish village the only way we can save this year is by selling off a few players like Leovac, Cimirot etc (if other clubs are still interested that is) and attempting to buy a few players who have quality. We need now more than ever to promote some young, Greek players in the squad. Vieirinha is starting to p!$$ a lot of people off, it's now or never man. This is now an opportunity to make a solid team where players can finally gel. How is it possible that Zagorakis and Vryzas made a team out of nothing, however the current management need three weeks for El Khaddouri to make a 2 hour flight from Italy? Unfortunately with it's a catch 22 with the management. Indeed Savvidis came in and paid off our debt but there is no improvement on the field. He will say that without him PAOK would still be in debt. I get that it's all a business but why not buy a few decent players too?

Ziaka, the reason for Ivic's departure is clear. Kolkas and co.

Κατα τα άλλα δεν μας έκανε ο Παπαγιαννόπουλος!

And unlike us he will be playing in the EL group stage.

I really had high hopes when Savvidis stepped in. I get the fact he just wants to do business in Greece and is therefore using PAOK as a stepping stone. I don't have a problem with that as football is all about money these days anyway. But why not make a team at least? We clearly don't have players who are good enough to see through a two-legged tie against a Swedish town. The more time passes the more I think that PAOK is just a gift from him to his rebel son, who instead of putting a team together is going outside Aris' stadium signing songs.

Παρακαλώ να κλείσει κάποιος το τόπικ. Εχουμε ξεφτιλιστεί τελείως και δεν θα χρειαστεί.

Ποιός να ασχοληθεί τώρα με το πρωτάθλημα;

Εμ τι θα είναι. Ο άνθρωπος δεν έχει καμία σχέση με το ποδόσφαιρο. Όποιος τον έφερε θέλει ξύλο απο την Τούμπα μέχρι την Κροατία!

In other words it's going to be a sh!t season.

No need to worry about which pot we will be in. We can worry about that next year again when we are assured of getting players "if we get through to the group stages".

I never wanted them in the draw. They are halfway through their season and it showed. They were always faster and stronger than us. We are just plain sh!t. Simple as. No problem for me though. Instead of taking two days off to go and watch those f*ckt@rds play I'll just head to Dubai for a long weekend instead.