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I've said it for two years, the only way to get away from that bullshit is to leave the league, and create a new one together with AEK, PAOK and other clubs with self respect and some fan base.

i should bet on that next time. about the shots , 1 or 2 yes but they were more passes to the keeper of belarus.

It's embarrassing for Greece to let Belarus dance around them in midfield. This is why Tziolis should never play for them again.

yeah totally , but im not shocked , this we could expect with this line up. still we cant lose against belarus , not good for fifa ranking also.

good thing this is a friendly, you experiment those players

What u expect with captain tzolis in the midfield a game to give new blood a go and we playing players who don't play for their clubs

official starting line up up with(take a seat) petsos right back. ---------------------------------glykos------------------------------------ petsos-------------papadopoulos-------oikonomou-----stafylidis ----------------------------tziolis------samaris------------------------- mantalos---------------------karelis------------------------gianniotas ------------------------------------vellios----------------------------------- http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/podosfairo/i-endekada-tis-ethnikis/3240389

If you think we are extremely poor, I'd like to hear your opinion on the other teams in the GSL. I'll summarise for you :- 1) Brkic GK - Bought to replace Glykos but unusually Glykos has been playing well. Good backup to have nonetheless and if Glykos returns to his old ways or gets injured he is our main backup. Not a waste of a transfer. 2) Crespo CB, LB - Bought to add depth to the defense. Can play both CB and LB equally well. Was our best player against Panionios last week. Good transfer. 3) Varela CB - Bought to be the main CB along with Tzavellas. Currently behind in the pecking order in my opinion. Still has more to prove his worth. 50/50 on this one. Was the only guy we paid money for at 1.4 million. 4) Matos RB - great transfer. Two levels above Skondras and Kitsiou. 5) Canas DM - good transfer. Clearly the best DM in the squad. So far I have covered mainly defensive positions. Our defense has been awful the last few seasons and very inconsistent. So far this season the defense has definitely tightened up. Olympiakos has the best defense in the league statistically at 4 goals conceded. PAOK has 2nd best at 5 goals conceded. I believe all of the above transfers were solid with the possible exception of Varela who it's still a bit too early to judge. His man marking is good but his positioning seems a bit off. 6) Shakhov DM/CM - 50/50 on this one. He's just ok. Nothing special at all. End of the day if you're playing 2 in the middle Canas and Cimirot are the best. Shakhov is ok for squad rotation. Does lots of running without being exceptional. Doesn't really add anything to the squad but not terrible either. 7) Biseswar ACM - Technically 2 levels above most players in the squad. Can't play 2 games in a row. Massive fitness issues. Good signing overall but not a player to base a season on since the only thing you can guarantee about him is that he won't be able to play all the time. You have to treat him with kid gloves. 8) Djalma RW - the special one. Can dribble but can't score. Showed his potency and stupidity against Olympiakos. Still I don't think we have better in his position. Overall, not a good signing. Not because of how he plays, but because of the hype that he is the next Mak and because of the fact he is the highest paid player. No hype and half the wage and we'd be happy to have him for squad depth. 9) Thiam - pointless so far. And there you have it. Basically the only proper attacking threat up front that is semi consistent is Rodrigues. Djalma, Biseswar and Klaus, what you get each week depends on what sacrifice you made to the gods. If they all happen to be fit and in form we wouldn't have problems up front. But that is a pipe dream. Ain't going to happen. The team has improved a lot in the back 3rd and in the middle 3rd in my opinion. In the attacking 3rd there is little creativity other than Rodrigues going on his mazy runs. Nullify him and you've killed half our game. The rest are bereft of ideas on a consistent basis. The greek boys Pelkas, Charisis, Mystakidis, Korovesis overall very disappointing. Complacent almost. The squad needs firepower up front. As simple as that. Biseswar and Djalma are not players to win you games week in week out.

I blame Otto and a weak EPO. Apparently Skibbe got advice from Rehhagel to only rely on a small squad of players. This isn't going to end well I'm afraid. Like the last 4 years under Otto, this team is doomed to mediocrity.

That squad will probably not get passed Bosnia. And will finish third ahead of Estonia, Cyprus, Gibraltar...a far cry from a WC semi or quarter..

Greece will qualify for Russia 2018 & reach the Quarter Final or Semi Final with a squad similar to this. Orestes Karnezis Giannis Maniatis Kostas Stafylidis Kostas Manolas Kyriakos Papadopoulos Giorgos Tzavellas Sotiris Ninis Andreas Bouchalakis Kostas Mitroglou Kostas Fortounis Giannis Fetfatzidis Stefanos Kapino Panagiotis Glykos Panagiotis Retsos Vasilis Torosidis Mario Oikonomou Giannis Giannotas Apostolos Vellios Sokratis Papastathopoulos Dimitrios Diamantakos Thanos Petsos Andreas Samaris Nikos Karelis

Okay but you have to stay cool. I have no time for DWEEBS