Irlandos Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 Grigoris Georgatos has expressed his wish to leave AEK: From SportAction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k21 Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 1stf tsiartas whats wrong with the peaple??? maybe it is the hooligans... <_< :ph34r: :tdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsurfer Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 Georgatos for Bucek....... , why not ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Melbourne 21 Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 Georgatos for Bucek....... , why not ! HAAHHAHA Boucek is worse than our two keepers..... Georgatos was always a kolopaido and he has shown that he cant be part of a team yet again. Seriously, what is wrong with this idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava-G Posted November 9, 2003 Share Posted November 9, 2003 Georgatos was always a kolopaido and he has shown that he cant be part of a team yet again. Seriously, what is wrong with this idiot? He couldnt stay at inter.... TWICE.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maw21 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 where does he want to go? not the gavroi surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEK GIA PANTA Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 an thelei na figei as figi kanenas den ton kataei stin aek me ton zori an einai na katsei etsi kalitera o kostis na paixei. but if we do let him go we have to get a good deal for him at least get money back. an einai gia tsamba well its not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Melbourne 21 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 I actually was against his signing at the start....And I was critisized for it bc I had that mentality apparently. I ate my words as I watched him play some terrific mpala. Some absolutely fantastic mpala but telika the guy proved I was right, and that he is a scumbag an8rwpo..... O-LYM-PIA-KOS.......enjoy your time wherever you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEK GIA PANTA Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 look everyone knew he was a scumbag of person but with great skills which prob was the deciding factor in his signing i think. he can win us games on his own which is what aek were hoping for which would be more than the amount of games he costs us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maw21 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 he's kind of like a boutsianis. terrific potential but missing some marbles upstairs. no one is doubting his ability to play, but his ability to deal with things off the pitch, well its another matter. look at his no-show for the ethniki....anyway...i'd rather we get him outa there sooner than later, you dont need people like that making a mockery of morale at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A Melb 21 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 May be for the best. No matter what potential a player has, if he plays with no heart, which mind you is what AEK are missing, then they are useless. We all know he's a tiprat, he played well at inter, didnt stay, he was ejected from the ethniki and surely wont get his place back now as theyll realise hes still got no heart. As good as he is and can be...he hasn't turned it on this year and if he doesn't now, he won't later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsurfer Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 HAAHHAHA Boucek is worse than our two keepers..... Bucek ... was recently.. a bit unsolid...... yes.... But he has more potential... than our goalkeepers....... , and playing with us..., he would be sure the No. 1 .... ....such situation, the goalkeepers like very much...and they give good performances....... I find at the moment Mixailidis better than Xiotis....... but.. a real good goalkeeper would bring us very much.... Therefore... if we can't get any other from abroad........===========>> Georgatos...for ...Bucek..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The2ndMouse Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Lets be a bit more serious shall we? If the Board is too weak to act, if the coach is psychologically hadicapped and fights hard to return from it and regain the confidence of the team to his face, if the fans are divided and if the team is in trouble are ALL things we cannot do many things about. (well, being divided in a "better" way for the team could help if some aplied it) HOWEVER, for us to DEMAND some seriousness is feasible and could help the Board get stronger and their decisions become respected! I did not mind that Gowrgatos is an Declared Olympiakos fan. He is a pro and he did play very well for us. Bajvic was another chapter, and his issue happened uder other conditions. Us AEKtzides shouls stop "Dusan-ise" each and every case. BUT I do mind when a player refuses to play for the team. One or even two mistakes are maybe acceptable. I am not in the locker rooms and the manager and Board can decide better on the tollerence they are prepared to show to each team stars weird demands and psychological problems. But, a constant refusal to perform like a professional means that AEK should show the door to the man long before he came to the point of asking it himself. He is usefull and great player. But A teams performance is way mauch more than a single players value unless you are Maradonna and then again we come to the issue of team discipline! Georgatos should go earlier and if Tsiartas continues like this he should go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsurfer Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Lets be a bit more serious shall we? You sound like an old professor..... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The2ndMouse Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Just make sure you understand it goes towards the whole "team" in the wider sense.... (i.e Board, Manager, Players, Fans, the Cleaning Lady etc...) ;) I am just sick and tired of some people turning us into a small team with their actions (or absence of... ). ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elastonpappou 13 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 'Old' surely..... 'professor' I am not sure.... He is a kafro hanoymissa Hooligan!!!! :P :box: If that is what it needs for professors, then so be it...... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clover22 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Didn't he say once that he would like to play for PAOK? If he goes there, that might be good for them if he can keep his head together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Melbourne 21 Posted November 10, 2003 Share Posted November 10, 2003 Sorry Mouse I dont understand why the attack on Tsiartas? I know that the past 2 months have seen some poor performances, and I have seen his attitude as well so I understand. But this guy is in a totally different boat to Georgatos. He was benched and seemed to have taken it on the chin. Comes on against PAOK chases everything. It was only 10 minutes but none the less showed hunger. Plays against Akratitos and was one of our better players. I think they he needed the kick up the pants and will respond well. There were rumours that him and Lybe dont get along, I think the cover of ScoreLive today shows that its crap. He is too valuble to sit on the bench, but if his attitude was of Georgatos then he is useless to us. Im willing to persist bc he is an AEK person and he has talent. He is 31 but holds too many keys to throw away without persisting under the 'new' conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava-G Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 I think they he needed the kick up the pants and will respond well. There were rumours that him and Lybe dont get along, I think the cover of ScoreLive today shows that its crap. I totally agree with this... and I think also the same was with Zags. He was benched for a game and has played great since. Alot of the guys needed to return to earth and understand that they NEED to work hard all the time. The kick, hopefully, gets the fire back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Melbourne 21 Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 Sorry Dava I left out Teo...because he has shown the same type of thing. At the end of it all, if they slip back into form, you drop them. Simple as that. No one is indispensible. Two examples that a bit of discipline can go a long way : Tsiartas and Teo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEK GIA PANTA Posted November 11, 2003 Share Posted November 11, 2003 om21 eisai sostos. when players don't perform whoever they may be they shoulg get benched. other take it better while others(geo)take it very porrly and have a sook and complain about persnal problems. if that's the type of attitude he has his gonig to have personal prob his hole life cause the fact is IT'S HIS OWN PERSONAL PROBLEM HIS AN ILITHIO NO ONE ELSE. you dind't see konstandinidiscracking it being on bench for so long or nali etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The2ndMouse Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Sorry Mouse I dont understand why the attack on Tsiartas? I know that the past 2 months have seen some poor performances, and I have seen his attitude as well so I understand. But this guy is in a totally different boat to Georgatos. He was benched and seemed to have taken it on the chin. Comes on against PAOK chases everything. It was only 10 minutes but none the less showed hunger. Plays against Akratitos and was one of our better players. I think they he needed the kick up the pants and will respond well. There were rumours that him and Lybe dont get along, I think the cover of ScoreLive today shows that its crap. He is too valuble to sit on the bench, but if his attitude was of Georgatos then he is useless to us. Im willing to persist bc he is an AEK person and he has talent. He is 31 but holds too many keys to throw away without persisting under the 'new' conditions. I only say this because he waved to the coach to replace him as soon as he came in vs. Monaco, and because he was giving support to Psomiadis while he was robbing AEK in broad daylight. He might be right because AEK did sign a contract with him and by al means contracts that are not honoured are all the teams fault, but when all others decided to give the NEW board a couple of months to sort things out (and they did not have any reason to think that the board would not), he decided to keep AEK on the ropes. He plays 1 game out of 3-4 and despite, like all of us, my admiration for his abilities, despite the fact that AEK owes him many things including a whole good year with Santos where we were breathing our dyng breaths in extra time vs. Hibs and many more... But in the same principle with Georgatos, ... a player that is capable of magic but creates more trouble than good is a negative deficit and also disrupts the whole team. (I have been in a team with championship goals and know 1 things or 2 ... dont forget that too). Anyway, if the coach of AEK thinks he can use him better from now on now that the whole team took the message trough Georgatos, then so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Melbourne 21 Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 I wasnt aware of the Monaco situation nor what you are saying about the support given to Psomiadis. If Im correct, he was not allowed to play bc of his money issues. Which I felt may have cost us invaluably in that period of dropped points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k21 Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 Sell Georgatos and earn some many one him.. then aek should buy some good defenders from AFrica or something :D:D:D:D::D:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elastonpappou 13 Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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