Vasili0s Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 Sure it will effect us, the question is how much. Lets see if Bajevic will throw in Castillo or move Okkas around for the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Protathlitis Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 has Taralidis ever played on the right Vasillie? and do we still have Rezic or did he go on loan? Georgiadis is no big loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC_Olympiakos Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 has Taralidis ever played on the right Vasillie? and do we still have Rezic or did he go on loan? Georgiadis is no big loss Georgadis injured or something anywayz u know his time is about to end at Olympiakos very soon !!! Georgatos should be playing thats for sure he has been the most consistent player for Olympiakos in the past month and a half good to see Vallas will get a big chance to shine i think he is 24 maybe younger so good to see that now he must perform will Kafes be ready b/c he get some kind of fever (probably from Zagorakis and it might be a good thing for him LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipapa Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 Folks, There were no excuses for Ribo's bad performance. Yes, he was blocked by the stricy double-zone defensive Xanthi system, so what? Was he moving enough to avoid blocking or attract a few players on him? Was there any serious Xanthi attack to keep our team from offending? I just think Bajevic wasn't expecting such a defensive football from Xanthi and had no alternative solutions for that case. As for Okkas, the chances he missed were rather well executed for a player which mostly creates the conditions for goal chances than executing them. Anyway, he lost two important chances; the first it was because of the goalkeeper's phenomenal performance. The second would be one of the best goals of the year, had he hadn't missed the net by only a few cm. How many players would be able to effectively hit the ball on a very fast move and with the upcoming goalkeeper hiding the view? It seems to me that sometimes he misses opportunities that are very difficult to create AND exploit. Our defense had an easy work, except for Xanthi's single serious chance in the whole game. That is why I'm whining here; we faced a solid defense but we should have overcome this since we were not threatened. Imagine Sochaux playing a Xanthi or PAO-like style of game. They would humiliate us, because their striker isn't a Garbozis... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasili0s Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 Was he moving enough to avoid blocking or attract a few players on him? Was there any serious Xanthi attack to keep our team from offending? As for Okkas, It seems to me that sometimes he misses opportunities that are very difficult to create AND exploit. Wait, what do you expect a half way decent player of his position to do ? So he got some shots on goal that where difficult to get off, should we give him a cookie for doing so and applaud at his skill ?How many open nets has he missed this season ? Has he not been fed and created himself enough chances this year ? Sure, but how many have gone in the net ? The more the season goes, the more faith I loose in Yannakis. Im begginning to beleive he isn't worthy of the limani. As for our offense against the Thracians, you saw Georgatos as a LB and he must have been behind center on only a few occasions to stop a run on the flank, yet we could still produce nothing with djole in a free role, ribo behind the strikers and geo on the wiing. Protathlitis: As far as I know, we still have Rezic but he has had a minor injury requiring of indiividual therapy, I dont know if he is ready or ready but not in bajevics plans at ALL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipapa Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 Was he moving enough to avoid blocking or attract a few players on him? Was there any serious Xanthi attack to keep our team from offending? As for Okkas, It seems to me that sometimes he misses opportunities that are very difficult to create AND exploit. Wait, what do you expect a half way decent player of his position to do ? So he got some shots on goal that where difficult to get off, should we give him a cookie for doing so and applaud at his skill ?How many open nets has he missed this season ? Has he not been fed and created himself enough chances this year ? Sure, but how many have gone in the net ? The more the season goes, the more faith I loose in Yannakis. Im begginning to beleive he isn't worthy of the limani. As for our offense against the Thracians, you saw Georgatos as a LB and he must have been behind center on only a few occasions to stop a run on the flank, yet we could still produce nothing with djole in a free role, ribo behind the strikers and geo on the wiing. I think Okkas mostly misses chances he creates by himself. Anyway, I think we miss a point here; for an offensive team like Osfp, and particularly at home games, where is the second striker/center forward to follow Okkas and exploit the chances? Wouldn't be a chance for goal if someone was close enough to steal the ball after goalkeeper pushed it back? As far as I can remember, some chances missed by Alexandris (who btw was a " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC_Olympiakos Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 look i don't agree about the rivaldo statement that he wasn't working hard enough i mean it's pretty hard to break a double for the most part Xanthi is a very organized and discplined team and deserve the credit for doing their job plus everybody was back till the end of the game i do agree about Okkas that he is really out of position that he can do everything but score i mean i can see him playing the midfield next season while we acquire better strikers in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipapa Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Imho, a double zoned defense isn't impregnable. Xanthi is a very good team but its defense isn't the Greek NT. Ribo should be mobile enough to create holes in the zone thus offering chances for penetration by the rest offenders. As for Okkas, I think he better stays as left forward because he's very creative there, we only need a daring striker to finish the chances. Which position he played at when he was at PAOK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC_Olympiakos Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 rivaldo can do so much the rest of the midfield needs to help him out can just put everything like that on him b/c nobody can really do just by themselves in an entire game why don't u put more emphasis on the other players to play better and harder soccer is a team sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipapa Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Indeed, soccer is a team sport but don't forget that one expects even more from the most skillful and experienced player, especially when he gets paid 2 million per year ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 rivaldo can do so much the rest of the midfield needs to help him out can just put everything like that on him b/c nobody can really do just by themselves in an entire game why don't u put more emphasis on the other players to play better and harder soccer is a team sport Well At Olympiako your treating it as if its a one man sport! Rivaldo is a great player - no doubt about that even past his peak his still good! His not gonna win you the title on his own! Other players need to help - like if Okkas scored half the chances he had!!!!!!!!!! :LOL: just half of them and he would be top scorer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipapa Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Nah, the "team spirit" is overstated here. When two or more key players (Ribo, Gio) are underperforming, the whole team is affected. And you end up with 9 players instead of 11. Despite the missed chances by Okkas, in the last 10 years at least, we were never in need of a retired striker like Warzycha in order to put the ball on the net :LOL: (and yes I know he is maybe the best foreign player ever played in Greece) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC_Olympiakos Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Nah, the "team spirit" is overstated here. When two or more key players (Ribo, Gio) are underperforming, the whole team is affected. And you end up with 9 players instead of 11. Despite the missed chances by Okkas, in the last 10 years at least, we were never in need of a retired striker like Warzycha in order to put the ball on the net :LOL: (and yes I know he is maybe the best foreign player ever played in Greece) funny part is we have all these problems and were right on course for the championship i think Okkas will be in the midfield next season i would like him on the right side or left and think he excels their b/c he does have really good speed and does create chances to score not for himself though we will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Protathlitis Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 I definatley think you are overreacting with Ribo dipapa. Gio was terrible but Ribo did ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDmagic Posted February 15, 2005 Author Share Posted February 15, 2005 I definatley think you are overreacting with Ribo dipapa. Gio was terrible but Ribo did ok I agree...While Rivaldo is on the pitch he is capable of anything :tup: Once a champion always a champion.Everyone should get off his back and give him a chance..RIVALDO :nw: :nw: :nw: :nw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipapa Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Folks, I wouldn't be so harsh against Rivaldo had he shown at least a better attitude to the coach (I would even put aside the amount of money he gets). No coach is unmistakable but Ribo had to avoid undermining team morale. Anyway, there is always time to correct own mistakes. We 'll see on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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