vasilis13 Posted September 18, 2003 Share Posted September 18, 2003 To ti kseneroma fagame den einai anagki na to ksanafero.. Ta koproskula PAIXTES-PROPONITIS-DIOIKISI alli mia fora mas kerasan mia apisteuti PIKRA kai mas elousan sti KSEFTILA. Edo den sevontai tous kseftilismenous eautous tous, emas tous 3000 blakes pou tragoudagame opos kanenas allos stin ellada/Europi mporei (kai na troei kai 5, fantazeste, leme tora, na nikagame???), tha sevastoun? Dustuxos merikoi to miristikan molis mathame oti o Gkoumas tha paixei kentro kai o Sanmartean aristera... EINAI DUNATOS NA VAZEIS TO GKOUMA KENTRO???????? NA FULAEI TO GIGGS O-PIO-ARGOS-APO-TO-REPLAY O GKOUMAS?? TO GKOUMA RE??? re mexri kai sto CM4 na to kaneis tha fas 5 (kai vale) Am ta upoloipa mosxaria? kentro den upirxe, mono anuma (me mia trupa ozontos naaa) kai mixalakis mprosta.. Kai kserete ti perimene? sou leei "edo me ti maccabi exasa 5-2 edo mesa, me ton PAO pou einai 2 fores kaluteros den tha katafero kati kalutero?" Am den einai etsi file mou.. De dineis mono emfasi stin epithesi kai sta epitalika xaf se mia omada..Deneis tin omada me tin amuna kai kaneis systumata..Alla ti kaluteri amuna tis alladas tin ekanes sa to **** tis Geena Jameson re gidi.. Evlepes mia manchester na kinitai apisteuta, na allilokaluptetai, na kanou kinisi oloi, na kaluptoun olous tous xorous. Apo tin alli evlepes ena Panathinaiko na ta exei xamena, asundetos, fovizmenos na paizei sa kolopetinitsa.. AUTI I OMADA TI THELEI MESA STO GYPEDO? POIO STOXO EXEI AUTI I OMADA? EXEI STOXO? Ena allo apistueto einai i organosi tis etairias Manchester United. Kai den mporo na katalavo kati..exoume taxidepsei se oli tin europi me tis kaluteres omades tis europis sta kalutera gypeda. EMeis giati den mporoume na exoume mia kali organosi? Ena kalo marketing diladi, ena sosto website, ena kalo thima dimosion sxeseon (pou eixame kapote). Giati NA exoume blakes kai lamogia pou roufane to Panathinaiko MAS? Re seis o gavros pou ton koroideuame kapote gia to ti mpourdelo itane exei proxorisei polu mprosta sto tomeas organosis. Kai me to kainourio gypedo tha ektinaxthei.. Alla o Panathinaikos dustuxos einai mia etairia ksepluma xrimatos vlepo, pou exei afethei sto eleos tis tuxis..Perimenoun oi vrikolakes (akou re) na vgei kammia ND na vroun prokopi, anti na xosoune ligo xrima na ginoume kuriarxi dunami stin Ellada kai mia ANTAGONISTIKOTERI Europaiki omada. i etso na ginoume mia omada pou toulaxiston kserei ti zitaei sto gypedo! Kai an upirxe organosi, an vazane xrimata den tha milagame gia Kokkali, diatisies klp m*****es kuries kai kurioi.. Eilikrina den ksero ti theloune apo to PANATHINAIKO, na vgoune kai na mas poune re ti theloune apo tin omada mas? Tous arkei i deuteri thesi? Tous arkoune oi sfaliares kai oi kseftiles tupou rizoupolis kai old trafford? Tous arkei na ftanoume mono mexri tous 8 tis evropis? Pia evropi? edo pleon trome 5ares! FUGETE EPITELOUS, AFISTE KAPOION POU AGAPAEI TO PANATHINAIKO NA TON ODIGISEI PALI STA MEGALEIA. FTANEI PIA. Den entexoume ti mia pikra meta tin alli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athinaios Posted September 19, 2003 Share Posted September 19, 2003 You're right on! I don't want to repeat the same points you've made, but let me say this. A great team becomes great by playing and beating other great teams, not Kallithea, Ofi and Panahaiki. PAO right now doesn't have the people with the correct attitude and a winning mentality. From top to bottom. We're breeding a losers' culture. Money is not always the solution. I've known many teams (ie. New York Mets) that the have the highest payroll after the NY Yankees and they're dead last. Really bad team. And, if once every many years they show signs of being competivive and climb up in the standings, they CHOKE in the crucial games. Like we CHOKED in Rizoupoli. Don't tell me that we don't have the money or Greece is a small country and other garbarge..... I'll point to PORTO, yes, from Portugal. I'm fed up. The losers must go now. :tdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasilis13 Posted September 19, 2003 Author Share Posted September 19, 2003 Money is not always the solution. I've known many teams (ie. New York Mets) that the have the highest payroll after the NY Yankees and they're dead last. Really bad team. And, if once every many years they show signs of being competivive and climb up in the standings, they CHOKE in the crucial games. Like we CHOKED in Rizoupoli. Don't tell me that we don't have the money or Greece is a small country and other garbarge..... I'll point to PORTO, yes, from Portugal. I'm fed up. The losers must go now. :tdown: Athinaie,Ta lefta mporei na min einai i lusi alla an itan etsi tote to aigaleo kai o ionikos den paizoun Champions League giati einai atuxes oi ependuseis tous... Oson afora tin Porto, i Porto na se pliroforiso oti exei polla perissotera lefta (san somateio) kai epedei perissotera (oxi polu alla sigoura perissotero).. Alla edoses ena oraio paradeigma omos me tous NY Yankees kai NY Mets. Kai tha sumpiroso: Otan skaseis lefta kai ta epaiduseis sosta tote mporei na deis apotelesma. To oti eskase o Rossos o Abramovic 100 dis sti Chelsea den simainei oti i omada auti tha skisei sosta? Alla pes mou poia einai i diafora metaxu Panathinaikou kai Manchester? OI ependuseis file mou. Vevaia den sugrinetai i Aggliki agora me tin Elliniki, i Manchester tha gemisei to gypedo akoma an paiksei me tin Ano Traxanoplagia Voiotias. Episis ta tileoptika einai megalutera, poulaei perissotera proionta ekei klp klp Alla, me ta esoda pou exei parei o PAO (peripou 50-60 ekatomuria euro) ta teleutaia 3-4 xronia tha mporouse na apoktisei ikanoterous paixtes, tha mporouse na epaindusei kai se allous kladous tis epixeirisis. ta teleutaia 2 xronia ksereis POSA EXOUN EPENDUSEI GIA METAGRAFES? Kai de sou leo na ferei kana Zintan pros theou..alla imarton, pisteueis oti oi metagrafes ton teleutaion xronon (eksairesi Konstantinou, Soouza) sou dinoun tin entuposi pos o PAO paei gia to kati parapano???? An les nai, tote makari na vgo pseutis, to thelo kai ego auto alla vlepeis de me peithoun.. Alla file einai skatokavoures oi anthropoi..To ksereis oti gia 50-100 ekatomurria den agorastike kapote o Hagi, o Stoichkof, o Migiatovic? Ksexases ti egine meta to 96? Pou oikonmisane 3-4 dis tote kai oxi mono den ananeosane sumvolaia paixton tote, alla den enusxisane KATHOLOU tin omada..Opote ta apotelesmata ligo polu gnosta..Poutsa apo tin Rozembourg, poutsa apo ti Legkia kai titlo o gavros (mexri kai simera titlous pairnei).. Milas gia enan Panathinaiko pou oi ligoi pairnoun kala sumvolaia, kai oi upoloipoi pou trexoun (seitaridis, kuriakos, karagkounis mexri persu, fussas (asxeta an den kserei foveri mpala)) paizoune me psorosumvolaia...Kai otana erthei i ora na tous ta ananeosoun teite tous poulane eite tous afinoun na fugoun.. KSEREIS TI moutra einai oi kavoures? Pisteuo oti den theloun to protathlima oi tupoi, voleuontai me enan Panathinaiko pou na kanei tis kaloutsikes poreies stin europi kai na erxetai deutero-tritos stin Ellada. Afou etsi pairnoun kai ta idia lefta pou pairnei kai o protathlitis gia to champions league, kai den xreiazetai na plirono ena dis se prim. Kai meta sou leei tha kano mia kaloutsiki metagrafi, tha paro 2-3 ftina katsikia na trexoun se olo to gupedo, tha fugoune 1-2 plsula sumvolaia kai 1-2 skoupidia kai eimaste kala. tha poulisoume pali to paramuthi stous vlakes filathlous oti pali o kokkalis kai i diaitisia ta ekanan ola kai eimaste miaaa xaraaa Ilikrina pisteuo oti i doiikisi ton VRIKOLAKON epitides den ekane tipota gia na prostatepsei tin omada sti Rizoupoli. Afou den itan kaneis ekei kai eixan malista frontisei na to kserei kai o Krokus. Kai o Krokus loipon me ti seira tou MAZEPSE osous MOUTZAXENTIN upallilous eixe, tous fortose sta kairia simeia kai eginan osa eginan..ante kai timorithike me merika mats se oudetero (oute KAN se adeio gupedo).. Gia na doume..exei to idio ergo kai fetos se epanalupsi?. Makari na vgo pseutis.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stereo Sushi Posted September 21, 2003 Share Posted September 21, 2003 You're right on! I don't want to repeat the same points you've made, but let me say this. A great team becomes great by playing and beating other great teams, not Kallithea, Ofi and Panahaiki. PAO right now doesn't have the people with the correct attitude and a winning mentality. From top to bottom. We're breeding a losers' culture. Money is not always the solution. I've known many teams (ie. New York Mets) that the have the highest payroll after the NY Yankees and they're dead last. Really bad team. And, if once every many years they show signs of being competivive and climb up in the standings, they CHOKE in the crucial games. Like we CHOKED in Rizoupoli. Don't tell me that we don't have the money or Greece is a small country and other garbarge..... I'll point to PORTO, yes, from Portugal. I'm fed up. The losers must go now. :tdown: intelligent post by someone who knows what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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