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Go:bekli Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Mon Dieu! Quelqu'un vient de lire mes balivernes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go:bekli Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Parlant de barbares et de barbaries: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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athinaios Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Life was very cheap for most of human history (and, sadly, still is in some parts & cultures). Everybody, and I mean everybody was a barbarian. Of course, the new countries (after 17th c) chose to hide the attrocities of their ancestors and highlight the ..genocides of others. If I were the king of the Balkans and the greater area, I'd have everybody do a DNA check, so they could see how everybody is related going back only a few centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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athinaios Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 What is the ancestors' influence? Genetic? Cultural? Myths? In other words, are we bound to do or be like our ancestors? Culture, which includes indoctrination of people, makes them who they are. Of course, there are exceptions that break off the mold, but most people follow and aren't interested in the facts if the facts (and history) make them uncomfortable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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athinaios Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Shhhhhhh. Be quiet. Nobody likes this stuff. Certain topics cannot be discussed, because they invariably turn into: who did the worst or who started it first (no limit how far back you can go); once this is established, then the other side(s) have a reason to excuse everything that followed, no matter how bad it seems.... tribalism dictates that "the others" are sub-human, increadibly stupid, and their culture sucks. throw in some conspiracy and magical thinking sex! oh, yeah! The best defenders of the historical truth, fighters for god, team, and country, happen to also think that they're great F***ers.. and, who apparently want to demonstrate how right they are by wanting to F*** their opponents! :1eye: the glory of the ancestors curse.... (can you guess this one?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go:bekli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I am a simple man, simpleton according to my wife, who cannot keep in his mind two incompatible ideas. Such as receiving a like and the advice to not write what earned me the like! I was told that sometimes the true meaning of what is expressed may be the opposite of the literal interpretation of the utterance. But this does not help any. When I must choose between two incompatible statements, how can distinguish among ?#1 is false?, ?#2 is false?, and ?both #1 and #2 are false?? Whatever, our national poet stated that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go:bekli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I am a simple man, simpleton according to my wife, who cannot keep in his mind two incompatible ideas. Such as receiving a like and the advice to not write what earned me the like! I was told that sometimes the true meaning of what was expressed may be the opposite of the literal interpretation of the utterance. But this does not help any. When I must choose between two incompatible statements, how can distinguish among ?#1 is false?, ?#2 is false?, and ?both #1 and #2 are false?? Whatever, our national poet stated that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Go:bekli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I am under the impression that this thread has acquired a Mr Hyde and Dr Jekyll aroma. Mister Hyde commits crimes against the collective national memory (or the lack of same) and Dr Jekyll is egging him on! But, luckily, the world is full of descendants of Greeks who were educated at the local " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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