Olympiakos - Werder Bremen

[Sharpos]

Rosenberg laments Bremen defending

Werder Bremen striker Markus Rosenberg admitted the Bundesliga side were defeated by a "more effective" team as Olympiacos CFP clinched their place in the last 16 of the UEFA Champions League with a 3-0 win in Piraeus.

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Hahaha, what a silly boy :P

"Olympiakos need to be stronger away from home". Being better away from home is what earned us the sweet 16 spot you moron. We friggin dominated you most of the game in Germany fool! :nono:

This insults me even more since i'm half Swede :tdown:

The key to progress as i see it is how we play at home. We need to win and preferably not concede any goals to have a good chance of making it to the last eight.

[DUDE]

POT A:

A FC Porto (POR)

B Chelsea FC (ENG)

C Real Madrid CF (ESP)

D AC Milan (ITA)

E FC Barcelona (ESP)

F Manchester United (ENG)

G FC Internazionale Milano (ITA)

H Sevilla FC (ESP)

POT B:

Liverpool FC (ENG)

FC Schalke 04 (GER)

Olympiacos CFP (GRE)

Celtic FC (SCO)

Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)

AS Roma (ITA)

Fenerbahce SK (TUR)

Arsenal FC (ENG)

Give us anyone of Porto, Sevilla, or Inter and and we'll qualify, trust me ;) !

We'd also give Chelsea or Milan a serious game imo.

[Akritis_1944]

Is it possible to be drawn against Real again?

I fear Barcelona and Man Utd. the rest can get their hopes up if they draw us and then I want us to turn the screw of humiliation. Much the same way Werder and Lazio are feeling now.

[dark_horse]

And teams who go to the Uefa Cup :LOL:

PSV Eindhoven (NED)

SL Benfica (POR)

Sporting de Portugal (POR)

FC Rangers (SCO)

SV Werder Bremen (GER)

Slavia Praha (CZE)

SK Rosenborg (NOR)

Olympique Marseille (FRA)

[NikosVazelas]

i am talkin about points coming from wins and draws. not qualifyin for the champions league.

aek went to the cl 1 time more then pao has. thats 3 coefficient points just for qualifying. oly has been there 4 times more then pao. that 12 points.

in the last two years oly has been in the cl 2 times and pao 0 thats 6 points to oly for qualifying. pao is tied with them however in points due to their results. thats what i meant.

in the last 15 years, pao has been in the cl less often then aek and oly but we still managed to bring in more points for greece. without the bonus points.

i.e more wins this is what i meant

[Olympiakosthyra7]

BUTINA RAUL BRAVO DOMI where were they anyone knowPAST 5 years

03/04 04/05 05/06 06/07 07/08 rank08

1 AC Milan Ita 16.9285 31.6200 26.0675 27.9360 15.5160 118.068

2 Chelsea Eng 22.7125 25.1385 17.7610 28.4860 16.5060 110.604

3 Liverpool Eng 14.7125 30.1385 17.7610 29.4860 14.5060 106.604

4 FC Barcelona Esp 16.7230 17.1040 34.1620 20.2700 17.2585 105.517

5 Arsenal Eng 17.7125 19.1385 31.7610 18.4860 16.5060 103.604

6 Sevilla Esp 4.7230 16.1040 30.1620 31.2700 17.2585 99.517

7 Olympique Lyon Fra 18.4550 23.7710 24.5680 18.3000 12.7675 97.861

8 Internazionale Ita 15.9285 22.6200 24.0675 16.9360 16.5160 96.068

9 Real Madrid Esp 21.7230 18.1040 17.1620 20.2700 15.2585 92.517

10 Manchester United Eng 15.7125 17.1385 12.7610 27.4860 18.5060 91.604

11 Villarreal Esp 20.7230 22.1040 24.1620 6.2700 12.2585 85.517

12 PSV Eindhoven Ned 17.7875 24.9600 13.5025 17.7105 9.2100 83.170

13 Newcastle United Eng 24.7125 27.1385 4.7610 22.4860 3.5060 82.604

14 Valencia Esp 29.7230 14.1040 5.1620 23.2700 10.2585 82.517

15 FC Porto Por 26.3825 13.6950 8.8150 15.6675 13.8620 78.422

16 Bayern München Ger 10.5555 19.4885 17.4440 20.1350 10.5690 78.192

17 AS Roma Ita 12.9285 8.6200 19.0675 20.9360 14.5160 76.068

18 Benfica Por 13.3825 13.6950 17.8150 18.6675 9.8620 73.422

19 AZ Alkmaar Ned 1.7875 27.9600 13.5025 18.7105 7.2100 69.170

20 Werder Bremen Ger 1.5555 16.4885 14.4440 24.1350 9.5690 66.192

21 Juventus Ita 12.9285 23.6200 23.0675 3.9360 2.5160 66.068

22 Schalke 04 Ger 6.5555 13.4885 24.4440 5.1350 12.5690 62.192

23 Espanyol Esp 4.7230 4.1040 14.1620 35.2700 3.2585 61.517

24 Steaua Bucuresti Rom 5.4300 11.8150 26.5550 10.7400 4.8580 59.398

25 Olympique Marseille Fra 24.4550 3.7710 15.5680 5.3000 9.7675 58.861

AS Monaco Fra 23.4550 15.7710 14.5680 3.3000 1.7675 58.861

27 CSKA Moscow Rus 1.9385 27.3000 10.3000 12.1860 6.3925 58.117

28 Sporting CP Lisbon Por 8.3825 25.6950 3.8150 9.6675 9.8620 57.422

29 Middlesbrough Eng 3.7125 17.1385 25.7610 5.4860 3.5060 55.604

30 AC Parma Ita 9.9285 22.6200 5.0675 13.9360 2.5160 54.068

31 Lille OSC Fra 4.4550 16.7710 16.5680 14.3000 1.7675 53.861

32 AJ Auxerre Fra 15.4550 19.7710 5.5680 10.3000 1.7675 52.861

33 Glasgow Rangers Sco 6.4335 7.5675 13.4025 15.2275 10.1450 52.776

34 Ajax Ned 6.7875 11.9600 15.5025 13.7105 3.2100 51.170

35 FC Basel Sui 2.6185 9.8660 20.0935 7.3525 10.8975 50.828

36 Celtic Sco 15.4335 8.5675 1.4025 13.2275 12.1450 50.776

37 Olympiakos Piraeus Gre 5.3750 16.0350 7.1000 7.5400 14.2550 50.305

Panathinaikos Gre 6.3750 14.0350 7.1000 10.5400 12.2550 50.305

[AEKPROTATHLIMA]

For Oly will be best to face Porto. The other teams are hard. By the way good job to Oly with the win against Wender.

[CH-Thrylos]

i am talkin about points coming from wins and draws. not qualifyin for the champions league.

aek went to the cl 1 time more then pao has. thats 3 coefficient points just for qualifying. oly has been there 4 times more then pao. that 12 points.

in the last two years oly has been in the cl 2 times and pao 0 thats 6 points to oly for qualifying. pao is tied with them however in points due to their results. thats what i meant.

in the last 15 years, pao has been in the cl less often then aek and oly but we still managed to bring in more points for greece. without the bonus points.

i.e more wins this is what i meant

The basis for the UEFA rankings is the performance of teams in the European Cups during a five year period. During that period each team gets two points for a win and one point for a draw. From 1999 on these points are halved for qualification matches: one point for a win and half a point for a draw. One bonus point is allocated for reaching the quarter final, the semi final and the final. Reaching the group stage of the Champions League yields three bonus points (before 1996: 2 points, from 1996-2004: 1 point). As of the 2004/05 season teams qualifying for the first knock-out round of the Champions League will be awarded with an extra bonus point. The so-called UEFA coefficients are calculated by taking an average, based on the total number of points divided by the total number of teams of each country.

just for having the exact numbers. but anyway. i have to agree with you, that pao has collected more points in the last years than us...

[Nick99]

I dont think you are allowed by Uefa to change your stadium half way through a competition.Karaiskaki is owned by Olympiakos while Oaka management will propably ask for more money but who cares,you have a valid point,i just dont believe that is posible.

No point in moving to OAKA anyway. The atmosphere there stinks, with the track field pushing the fans back.

Folks, numbers isn't everything. Karaiskaki is a much superior edra.

[Nick99]

Could we face Real already in the first games again? Or are we only drawn with the other group winners? I wouldent fancy meeting them again so soon.

You can't face a team from your group, nor one from your league.

[Nick99]

i am talkin about points coming from wins and draws. not qualifyin for the champions league.

aek went to the cl 1 time more then pao has. thats 3 coefficient points just for qualifying. oly has been there 4 times more then pao. that 12 points.

in the last two years oly has been in the cl 2 times and pao 0 thats 6 points to oly for qualifying. pao is tied with them however in points due to their results. thats what i meant.

in the last 15 years, pao has been in the cl less often then aek and oly but we still managed to bring in more points for greece. without the bonus points.

i.e more wins this is what i meant

????

between the 1996-1997 and 2000-2001 european seasons, pao was in the CL 2 times, uefa cup 2 times and 1 year, 1997-1998, pao didn't qualify for europe.

between the 1996-1997 and 2000-2001 european seasons, aek was in the uefa cup 3 times and the cup winners' cup 2 times.

so, actually...pao's points during the 1996-1997 - 2000-2001 european years were boosted by bonus CL points.

the fact remains, aek was better in europe than pao during those years. naturally, since the 2001-2002 euro seasons, pao has gathered more points..but, you said 15 years.

the perception isn't reality for the past 15 years.

look it up..

Amen. This pretty much sums up a reply I was gonna write to vazelas' allegedly congratulatory post where he trashes gavroi's performance in the match (despite a 3-0 result), while scattering shameless plugs of PAO all over the post. And the signoff 'you finally friggin' did something'. I mean, what's up with that?

Let's be honest, this was really an insulting post. It's like the racist who says 'you know, you're OK for a (insert nationality)'.

And the thing about the grandfather jumping and clapping 'like a little retarded kid'. How about just 'like a little kid'.

[Nick99]

Rosenberg laments Bremen defending

Werder Bremen striker Markus Rosenberg admitted the Bundesliga side were defeated by a "more effective" team as Olympiacos CFP clinched their place in the last 16 of the UEFA Champions League with a 3-0 win in Piraeus.

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Pure kathiki. As if Oly didn't create their own chances. Werder controlled nothing, no coordination and even less finish.

And how much better can a side play away than the gavroi did? I guess we could have beaten Werder 1-4 or 1-5 instead of the lowly 1-3.

If this m#$%! thinks he's gonna get inside the players' heads, he's dreaming. I hope we trounce his NT this summer, and Werder gets thumped by a Greek side in UEFA Cup play.

[NikosVazelas]

haha.. true.

also i said 15 years.This goes back to 92. i think aek went two times more. then u add last year.

i was just saying that pao consistently perform, well in europe. They are the one constant.

as for Nick99. First off, you werent there to watch him. it was like a RETARDED little kid. trust me.

Second of all, you honestly think Oly played well in the final game. they played really bad until the 2-0. if werder would of scored, believe me it would of been different.

Pao played like crap against Aberdeen and i said. Even if we won 3-0

Read all the posts during the game, not only mine, and u will see that oly was gettin dominated. But in football, it not always who plays better but who scores the goal.

[Nick99]

This is funny man. Tha to diabazei kapoios xenos afto to nhma kai tha leei 'ti tsakonontai autoi oi malakes gia papoudes kai gia poia ellhnikh omada einai h kaluterh'.

God bless your papou, and I hope he gets to enjoy many more successes of his beloved club, and even of the NT, and hopefully some very soon.