DunfermlineAthleticPAOK
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2-0 first leg and 1-1 in Basel.
Thats my prediction. We are PAOK and we will persevere.
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We will win this tie 3-1. PAOK is a sleeping giant and we are being woken.
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Does anyone know when these are due to be released?
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The league should be given control of getting the tv deals and sponsorship, not the individual clubs
My understanding is that the clubs arrange there own tv deals? If that’s not the case then I apologise as that’s how i understand it from reading the forum.
I’m obviously not sure how the tv deals work in Greece but would it not be fair to just split say 50% of league sponsorship, the tv deal (and other revenue brought in by the league) evenly between the teams and then split the rest of the 50% depending on final league position?
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HAHA let me know your seat number and I'll hand deliver it to you in Basel
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3 hours ago, pash said:
I guess we'll see soon enough!
Savvidis posted about a "Brazilian talent" yesterday which at least one site says is this guy. I figured it was him referring to Henrique, though:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leo-jaba/profil/spieler/468260
-edit- I'm seeing him also now noted on the inPAOK site, which posted the following regarding foreign players. Apparently his age is a real asset in this case: https://inpaok.com/458793/o-zaba-ke-i-thesis-xenon/
I hope this is true as he sounds and looks decent. 11 caps for Brazil's U20's as well
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JVC,, so because I have a different opinion then I am fake and I am a problem? Wow, thanks.
Yes, i am from Scotland, does that mean my opinion is invalid because I have never been resident of Greece and don't speak fluent Greek?
It is apparent that you lack any respect for my view because I am not Greek. I don’t care if you disagree with me or if you insult me but don’t treat me as inferior because I am not Greek. I have nothing personal against you but I will debate you. Is that not the point (in fact the very definition) of a forum.. to have a collection of different views that are expressed and discussed?I love that i have a place where i can discuss PAOK with other people from around the globe, plus i get a lot of invaluable information from this forum. so for you (JVC) to make out that i am trying to ruin/destroy it because i disagree with you is just ridiculous and very immature.
Blackhawk if I have over stepped the mark in any way in my previous posts then I apologise.
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1 minute ago, jvc said:
So let me understand....the reson the Athletic organization of PAOK never wins championships is Football and Basketball, is because PAO is corrupt....did you enjoy our 37th championships in Basketball? Did you congratulate us....when was the last time PAOK won a championship? Do you like our 6 European championships?
Unsurprisingly, i have absolutely no idea what you are on about.
PAO are slipping into obscurity, it must be painful for you to watch.
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13 hours ago, Nea Bafra said:
@Bananas @SydneyPAOK @DunfermlineAthleticPAOK
boys, don't feed the troll
even the most virulent of diseases will die if it lacks oxygen
Labeling him a troll would be too kind and just give him an easy excuse for typing utter nonsense.
4 hours ago, jvc said:What part are you guys not getting....Iraklis was given time way before they were relegated....just because it wasn't reported, doesn't mean it did not happen....if you read the news....not SDNA, the actual news...you would have read that Iraklis will never pay....they're going the right off route....shafting people out of money. Alafouzo was threatening to go that route and have the rules applied....but the big players involved will not have it....they want the cash....so PAO must pay....IRAKLIS , ARIS, and AEK wrote off 100 million in tax payers money....DO YOU GUYS GET THIS??? PAO is not benefiting from this, ARIS and AEK benefited....ARE YOU GETTING IT???
Ah yes, that's right, the corrupt institution that is PAO is not benefiting from this and just doing it out of the kindness of their hearts
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52 minutes ago, jvc said:
Dude yes, because you don't understand. The rules are meant to make teams fiscally responsible. If they can't balance their books, players, government taxes and the list goes on are left with no money. UEFA has applied the rules to many teams, banning them for 3 years, and in many occasions lifted them because the teams came up with the money. The rules are their not to destroy you, but to work together and find a salutation....THE CREDITORS WANT THEIR CASH!!! The last thing they want to happen is bankruptcy, simply because they will never see their cash. Aris had years of warnings but have no means of ever paying, so they were demoted....in 5 years they'll be back debt free....and creditors out of millions, same situation with Iraklis. PAO as we speak their only existence is to stay alive and pay debts. WHAT PART OF THIS DONT YOU GET??? They don't even know if they can field a squad next season.....they basically need 20 million from the investors, and that's up in the air. What part dont you get....the creditors together with the government are trying to collect their cash....for the love of God....this is grade school stuff. You're talking rules....what rules....basically pay 20 million, or lights out....another 50 million burned. Like how do you go about life thinking, 50 million dollars missing is no big deal? Just apply the rules and forget the cash??? Are you serious? If they know that YOU have the cash, the sharks will be all over you....Iraklis has no means of paying....Alafouzo is personally responsible for 20 million, he's holding the team ransom....do you get it??? A cat and mouse game. Alafouzo is trying to bankrupt the team to save money, but the players involved are not allowing it....and he knows this....CAT AND MOUSE GAME GET IT??? The rules??? LMFAO. NOVA is holding 10 million of PAOs debts, do you think they want them relegated and be out of 10 mill....and lose millions on top from TV subscription. My God how are you thinking!!!
Cool story bro.. it changed my life .
pay your f@cking money and shut up. Don’t get into debt in future and stop acting like paying back money that you never had is/was a good thing to happen. Sit back and enjoy PAOK taking the p1ss out of you for a while.. we are No.1 and you know it.. that’s why it hurts you so much and all you have is “we will pay our debts = we are relevant” hahahahaha pathetic.
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If West Ham want leovac then we should tell them to get f@cked at that price. Times that by 10, then maybe we should talk. Premiership money is obscene and we need to start showing that we cannot be bought for peanuts.
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I want to keep hold of warda.. but if we can cash in on the ‘World Cup inflation’ then we should take it. Plenty of options in that area
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Come on guys stop poking fun at PAO.. the were once famous.
They were once on tv in the uk back in 2003. hash tag ‘BIG TIME!!!’
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My ignorance??? F@ck off back to your own forum you condescending pr1ck. You spam our forum with your paranoid and hypocritical ramblings. If you don’t want the rules to be applied then fine.. I don’t care, nor am I surprised. You and your Olympiacos brothers can enjoy each other.
We are PAOK, the darkness from the north. μαζί εναντίον όλων
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JVC believe me when I say that I would rather PAO stayed in the the top league so that you get to enjoy us winning. If you had been relegated then you would have said the only reason PAOK won the league is because PAO were not in it. Now you get to keep your front row seat to the main show... we are box office and you know it.
My only bone of contention with you is that all season you have been whining about curruption and the need for rules to be applied fairly... yet now you are happy for the rules to be ignored and for exceptions made because PAO are a ‘big’ club in geece and have loads of fans. It’s hypocrisy at its worst and pretty shameful in my opinion.
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20 hours ago, jvc said:
WTF are you talking about? PAO needs to be punished for this with demotion? PAOK is not corrupt? LMFAO!!! You guys are so desperately trying to get rid of Panathinaikos....it will not happen my friend....PAO IS BACK!!! And what the hell are you complaining about corruption....PAO for 2 decades straight was making CL semifinals, numerous quarterfinals....was a world class team. That being said PAO was getting cheated domestically for 2 decades straight and we were world class competitors in the CL....WTF are smoking dude! PAOK has done nothing all their existence. PAO was getting screwed 20 years straight....PAOK wants a fair league....Dude you made my day. Lol
Yeah, glad to see you are taking PAOK’s dominance well ?.
“PAOK has done nothing” I know you don’t understand us but please don’t try to compare us to your glory hunting standards. People that think a clubs success reflects their life achievements or their character are just weird and a bit sad.
One momment your for the rules being applied fairly and curruption being bad, but when it suits your club you are quite happy for the rules to be ignored and exceptions made.. for what?... money. You and Olympiakos truly are two cheeks of the same arse.
Enjoy watching ice hockey in your ‘corruption free’ country and stop being so angry.
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Can we just get one thing straight... wtf does the tv deal have to do with treating teams fairly??? I am talking about corruption, perceived bias, cheating, match fixing, having owners threatening referees at half time, paying off referees, threatening them and their families lives. Relegating ‘small’ teams but then when PAO does the same, POK try to change the rules to ensure that it doesn’t happen. People are sick and tired of the corruption, mismanagement of the whole set up and many Seem to have given up caring as it became pointles. If you are over the age of 8 then I struggle to believe you don’t understand that.
Trying to understand your point of view about the tv money... So you are happy when their is corruption and bias in Greece, because if someone, or a certain club has money and power then they deserve special treatment?
Anyway it seems pointless talking to you about this as you seem to think PAO deserve special treatment and I don’t. I will never change my opinion on that as I believe in fairness.
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6 minutes ago, jvc said:
I see....your justice is for PAO to be relegated! ARIS, AEK, and Olympiakos....we're set after that.
That's not what i meant and you know it. A start would be treating all teams the same and not based on how much revenue they make, number of fans etc. Maybe that will be help gain back some trust and stability. Can't believe that this is even a discussion point tbh :S
Do you honestly believe that the super league is in a mess because PAO are crap? HAHA that's unreal.
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I believe that those involved in the world cup will be holding out until after because if they perform well then their stock inflates dramatically. I think we tried to get Wernbloom tied up before the world cup for this very reason.
Sadly my fear is that Prjo will probably go to England and we obviously wont be able to compete with that unless we can renegotiate a deal and convince him to have a crack at Europe in the CL.
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6 minutes ago, jvc said:
PAO is not ashamed my friend....we're paying off all debts....and bringing millions to the SL....you mentioned Rangers? The league got stronger? Maybe in Scotland that's the case....but in Greece the opposite has happened. PAO has been nonexistent the past 7 seasons....has PAOK raised the level of the league? The league is reaching reaching lows with PAO being nonexistent....all time lows in attendance. The CL spot is almost gone for good. Fan violence and corruption is at a all time high....you guys have done great without PAO....WELL YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE! Last one coming up this summer. You have proven....without PAO you can't raise the level. Make the Champions league and bring the league higher....prove your team has it in them.
Did you even read my post? The reason that the leagues in Scotland got stronger and attendances went up was because some justice was served. The new rangers had to start in the lowest league, money was distributed better, they brought a new attention to lower leagues etc. There was alsochink of hope that things might change.
I will quote myself again so you can read what i wrote.
"the level of arrogance you show when the mask slips is the attitude that enables and feeds the corruption, mismanagement, division, mistrust etc not just within Greek football but wider society."
People don't trust the super league and EPO, they are sick and tired of the corruption and favoritism shown to Oly and PAO because you have more fans, richer, more powerful, corrupt owners. Why don't you understand this?
The league is a mess because of the way your owners have have manipulated the system and rigged the game. You have the audacity to sit there and demand the rest of Greek football bends over backwards, changes the rules etc and be thankful for all your millions of fans? Get real you clown.
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12 hours ago, jvc said:
Yes Iraklis should be relegated, along with the small clubs....they bring no money to the table, and have a very small fan base.
Jesus wept JVC... You really are an insufferable hypocrite. Why don't oly, aek and pao just go and play each other all year round and enjoy your love affair together? POK is an irremovable stain on your history and i would be utterly ashamed of it, had my club done similar.
This the level of arrogance you show when the mask slips is the attitude that enables and feeds the corruption, mismanagement, division, mistrust etc not just within Greek football but wider society. We were told in Scotland that there would be "Armageddon" if the new rangers had to start in the bottom tier. Guess what? the opposite happened and the other teams got stronger and attendances went up across the country.
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Are we sure he didn't have a sell on clause? Do we also know if this is even true and not just something his agent leaked to get interest in him or to negotiate better wages?
It doesn't appear that money is an issue for Savvidis and also not what is required to lure the better players here... The biggest pull will be champions league football, winning titles, and to get in the "shop window" for the top sides in Europe.
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Srna was only a year or two ago being chased by Barcelona, Man City etc. As has already been pointed out, Ivan has the cash, its a free transfer and the wage is small for a player of his caliber.
He was one of the best right backs in the world not long ago with vast experience at the highest level. We need winners and people with that mentality to take us to the next level. I believe that for the younger players especially, his presence will be invaluable.
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Surely he cannot view Biseswar as surplus to requirements? He is a hugely important player to this Club IMO.
Srna surprised me until I read that he has been banned since September last year for a failed drugs test... A brilliant player and maybe with a hope of going far in all cup competitions as well as winning the league, it would be good to be able to rotate between two quality players in Matos and Srna. I imagine that he could probably play in a number of different positions as cover.
His experience will be fantastic. As long as his drive and hunger to succeed is still there and that he has kept himself in good shape then i don't see an issue with this.
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I meant 3-1 over the 2 legs. I have a really good feeling about this. Last seasons mistakes will not be repeated as I think we are a different beast now.