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Sokratis who is suspended and Karelis who is injured. Mitroglou and Tachtsidis will be fine by then.

i just can't see how we can suffer such a loss. ideal group would be: spartak moscow / shaktar donetsk porto olympiakos beer sheva/maribor/

what we need to finish first in the 4 remaining games: 1) greece-estonia = greece win cyprus-bih = draw (belgium comfortably beats gibraltar) 2) greece-belgium = greece win (bosnia gets an easy victory against gibraltar) 3)cyrpus-greece = greece wins (possibly cyprus lays down for that) bosnia-belgium = draw or bih win, both results are in favor of us 4) greece wins over gibraltar final standings greece 24 belgium 22 or 23 (depends on whether they lose or draw bosnia) bosnia 3rd, etc. we're lucky we play belgium first to know what to expect from their game against bosnia.

he's currently injured but there's a chance he's ready in tuesday for olympiakos game so by 31st he should able to start. also i don't like gianniotas, i don't get what people see and rate him that highly, mantalos over him any day because he's better in his defensive tasks and a more creative player. the fact that a mid-table spanish team is second division is interested in him says a lot..hope olympiakos doesn't unload him to them. and don't worry about retsos, there's no way he's going to pick south africa over greece. that news were up about a month ago, basically their nt's coach just came in greece to talk to him and that's it, if he was going to pick south africa we'd already know that..also if you don't mind take a look at his instagram, half of his photos are from his games with youth nts which speaks volumes about that.

kapino / gianniotis / choutetsiotis koutris / milic retsos* / botia / nikolaou elabdellaoui / figeuiras vukovic / romao / cisse gillet / tachtsidis / zdjelar* ofoe / defour / siopis fortounis / androutsos* marin / seba carcela / ben / pardo emenike burdisso is going to replace retsos after the rijeka games once the young player signs for leverkuzen. also eindrecht frankfurt are interested in androutsos and zdjelar is close ro crvena zvezda on a loan deal. defour and djurdjevic will join after the rjieka games, defour will be a gift in case olympiakos progresses to the group stage. also ansarifard will move in a team where he will be the first option in order to be in iran's roster for the world cup. rumours say marteen stekelenburg from everton has been offered to olympiakos and i wouldn't be surprised if he'd sign. romao will play at cb since cisse is inexperienced and the midfield is stacked. ben will move to the wings. in general that's a great roster and god first if we get past the croatian side it might get even stronger with the money that will be generated from the market pool. can potentially finish 2nd in the group stage but even in the scenario they do finish 3rd or even worse they lose to rijeka, they have a decent chance to reach europa league quarterfinals. last year leali ruined that and the roster was far, far worse compared to this one.

torosidis over retsos, tachtsidis over zeca and mantalos over gianniotas.

whatever you say, i'm sure NONE in this forum would like to see players in b divisions like diamantakos, gianniotas, vellios and bouchalakis starting for the nt. in fact they're THAT good that they couldn't cut in the almight greek league: gianniotas never played for olympiakos, vellios was good for a relegation iraklis side, bouchalakis and diamantakos were consistently warming the bench in olympiakos..if they are that good why they couldn't crack into olympiakos rotation which in a league 15 times worse than championship. ps. the argument with the salaries barely makes sense..

Maniatis and especially Bouchalakis shouldn't be mentioned when it comes to nt. One is playing for a mid-table side in Turkey and the other one in english b division..Would rather see Kourmpelis or Siopis if one of Samaris, Tachtsidis or Zeca are out. Also Sokratis is suspended which means we'll see one of Retsos or Papadopoulos playing along with Manolas.My guess as I have said previously.

Retsos will play for Olympiakos in the games against Rijeka for the champions league and then he will be gone, numerous journalists in both Greece and Germany reported that Olympiakos reached an agreement with Bayer Leverkuzen for 15 million euros and 20% of the money of the next sale.

Depth in each position: Orestis Karnezis (Napoli?) Stefanos Kapino (Olympiakos) Kostas Lamprou (Ajax) Other alternative options are Mparkas (Aek), Vlachodimos (Panathinaikos, should be capped soonly) and Gianniotis (Olympiakos). CB: Sokratis Papastathopoulos (Dortmund) Kostas Manolas (Roma) Kyriakos Papadopoulos (Hamburg) Panagiotis Retsos (Leverkuzen?) Dimitris Siovas (Leganes) Marios Oikonomou (SPAL) RB: Vasilis Torosidis (Bologna) Giorgos Tzavellas (Alanyaspor) Mpampis Lykogiannis (Saint-Ettiene?) LB: Kostas Stafylidis (Hamburg?) Leonardo Koutris (Olympiakos) Alexandros Katranis (Saint-Ettiene) DMF: Andreas Samaris (Newcastle?) Panagiotis Tachtsidis (Olympiakos) Dimitris Kourbelis (Panathinaikos) Manolis Siopis (Olympiakos) Zeca (Panathinaikos) Giannis Maniatis (Alanyaspor) AMF/Wingers: Kostas Fortounis (Olympiakos) Tasos Donis (Stuttgart) Petros Mantalos (Aek) Tasos Chatzigiovannis (Panathinaikos) Giannis Gianniotas (Olympiakos?) Lazaros Christodoulopoulos (Aek) CF: Kostas Mitroglou (Benfica) Nikos Karelis (Genk) Apostolos Vellios (Nottingham Forest) Tasos Mpakasetas (Aek) Dimitris Diamantakos (Bochum)

Alexandros Katranis moves from Atromitos FC to Saint-Ettiene, in France.

looking up the depth of the team, in my opinion we have a good shot at qualifying via playoffs if we make it there and avoid italy or spain, always assuming that france and portugal will top their groups. may i list them below: gks: karnezis, kapino, gianniotis, glykos dfs: sokratis, manolas, siovas, papadopoulos, stafylidis, torosidis, oikonomou, retsos, tzavellas, lykogiannis, koutroubis mfs: samaris, tachtsidis, fortounis, siopis, kourmpelis, mantalos, tziolis, zeca, maniatis, petsos, kolovos fws: mitroglou, karelis, vellios, donis, gianniotas, mpakasetas, christodoulopoulos, fetfatzidis, pelkas keep in mind this is a 35-man squad so as it obvious, the coach will have to cut down 12 of them. so you can exclude the 10 who you think are the most mediocre and have no place in the ethniki and you have a good side, capable of qualifying to russia.

about the playoffs, for us to be seeded or to have at least a favorable draw group 1: france 1st, sweden 2nd. most possible scenario to happen. group 2: portugal 1st, switzerland 2nd. same here group 3: germany 1st, nothern ireland 2nd. most possible to happen too. group 4: ireland 1st, serbia 2nd. ireland are hosting the serbs and the moldovans while travelling to georgia and wales. serbia are hosting moldova and georgia while playing away to austria and ireland. so the ireland-serbia result will be desicive. quite possible too. group 5: poland 1st, montenegro 2nd. realistic scenario and likely to happen group 6: england 1st, slovenia 2nd. quite realistic to happen. group 7: spain 1st, italy 2nd. nothing you can do here. group 9: croatia 1st, ukraine 2nd. the most impossible to happen since ukraine needs to beat croatia and turkey at home and iceland away at the same time. in the end iceland will clinch the 2nd spot so. seeded: italy, switzerland, iceland, sweden unseeded : greece, slovenia, nothern ireland, serbia. montenegro worst second placed team. aaand let's make a prediction about the draw too italy v nothern ireland switzerland v serbia iceland v slovenia sweden v greece

It's κατάθεση* ψυχής

we won't blow the chance away, there's already too much desire for the world cup in the team. i'd only be worried if we'd face italy in the playoffs. every other team assuming france and portugal top their groups is beatable for me.

some funny stuff http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/podosfairo/tzeko-xreiazetai-upomoni-tha-skoraroume-sigoura/3364902 wasnt this guy invisible the whole game?

We can afford losing it even though I don't think we'll lose it. Overrated bosnians will beat only Gibraltar from their upcoming games, losing to Belgium and drawing Cyprus and Estonia. Wish them good luck fighting for the 3rd spot in the group.

Karnezis Torosidis, Manolas, Papadopoulos, Stafylidis Samaris, Tachtsidis/Zeca Mantalos Fortounis Donis Mitroglou The Estonian team will have 2 of their starters suspended. Yesterday they beat a very, very bad Latvian side (Andorra and Faroe Islands are ahead of them in their group, actually they are in the last place) 1-2 in a friendly game. Prediction: 2 or 3-0 victory for Greece

Tziolis surprised me positively in this game I have to admit.

delusional are the people who were bitching about a banner but are praising the disgraceful actions from your players and fans. still belgium will easily beat bosnia regardless of a closed doors punishment.

In fact fifa awarded a 3-0 win for serbia because of the drone incident. Cas punished serbia, not fifa neither uefa. they will play 1-2 games behind closed doors and pay a fine. Don't know if that will turn to our favor as if we beat belgium we'd need them not to win in bosnia. But beating belgium is out of reach so we'd better hope theythey'll beat bosnia too (they would do that nevertheless).

Kolovos is a CM if I'm not mistaken. He is long term injured currently. Michael Skibbe was planning to call him on the squad for the Belgium game but he got injured few days later. Kourbelis is his replacement at the moment.

So far so good. the uncivilized barbarians should learn how to behave themselves. greece paid a 75k euros fine to uefa because of the banner about srebrenica.

Holebas just didn't want to have Stafylidis' role. He claimed that he should be used as a left back and not a winger.

Nice, apparently the Bosnians who are talking shot about Greece are reading this forum and think we're delusional. Let's remind them that the are no measure to European football and they should better lay down befoere they embarass themselves even more.