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Unfortunately Nea Bafra, the millions upon millions of Panathinaikos fans don't really have a forum to debate football. JVC is pretty much the sole panathinaikos poster making panathinaikos a fraction bigger than atromitos in terms of forum traffic

The hypocrisy from the elitist aek fan. You never expressed this view when the scumbag PAOK fan though the paper roll at olympiakos' coach or with our president storming the pitch. Maybe you think out football team just weren't busting their guts out there when they were on a roll and being labelled by all pundits as the best team in Greece at the time

Not playing well but winning and that's all that matters. Years ago if PAOK wasn't playing well we would be guaranteed to lose matches against olympiakos and aek. Very big win today! PAOK!!

Woops but I'm pretty sure you're well aware of what i was trying to imply. A draw doesn't help as it maintains the 2pt advantage for aex but can also open up the gap between us and gavri if they win

We definitely have the team to punish them. If the team continue to believe and act as a family we will beat them good

Pash, It's not being defeatist but rather realistic plus strategic. The AEX game in my opinion is 100 times more important than Chelsea. Remember we are -2 already and we need to beat AEX to go on top of them in the table. If we lose or draw the gap opens up and slowly slowly the pressure builds to make up the gap. Yeah it would be great to get a result against Chelsea and for our club to get some international lime light but that's a nice to have. Focus needs to AEX

Not always blackhawk. The runner's up also took part on many occasions when the cup winner was also the league champion. Nowadays with the champions league taking up more spots you would potentially even have semi finalists of domestic cups participating.

I thought Pontus Wernbloom was bought to start.. once match fit that is

50% of Greeks in Makedonia are descendants of Greeks that came from Thraki, Pontus and Asia Minor in the 1920s

Part of this new naming deal also involves multiple changes to Skopje's constitution. Some of the changes are: - their history has no correlation to ancient Macedonia - that they are not descendants of ancient Macedonians - that ancient symbols are not to he used in any flags - that their statues and monuments must clearly state that they belong to the ancient Hellinistic period - that they have no territorial claims on Greek Macedonia - their education system to use newly re written books and materials that does not correlate their history with that of ancient Macedonia and to not have any maps showing Greek Macedonia as part of their Northern Macedonia - that their Macedonian language is part of the Slavic language and has no correlation to the language spoken by ancient Macedonians Therefore the next generation of our northern neighbors will have a very different belief system about their history.

@jvc anyway you spin it, you and your club are hypocrites and part of the problem with Greek football and the Greek mentality. However big you think your club is, if it has broken the rules and owes money the rules applied to the other clubs like Iraklis should be applied to panathinaikos. No exceptions. You keep banging on about your big fanbase blah blah blah and that if you are relegated that Greek football will suffer. Well in Scotland, 2 clubs make up around 98% of the fan base and despite the fact that it would hurt the Scottish league they still applied the correct rules and demoting the club. They made no exceptions and in a single decision the Scottish league lost around 49% of it's fan base. Smaller Scottish clubs also suffered by losing their 1 of their 2 guaranteed sell out home matches (the other against Celtic) and lost TV viewers. By the way you keep banging on about how big your club's fanbase is. How come PAOK has a bigger following on their official FB and Insta pages? You might think that means nothing but in corporate marketing these numbers are real and has more worth than your 1990's Greek newspaper polls about fan bases. Facebook: Olympiakos 903k, PAOK 479k, Panathinaikos 309k AEK 250k Instagram: Olympiakos 212k, PAOK 119k, AEK 98k, Panathinaikos 60k

Ummm JVC because the panathinaikos hierarchy aren't reading these posts you dumb ass.

Maybe Skibbe's in depth research revealed that Paschalakis conceded 6 goals in toumba against aek and olympiakos therefore didnt pick him ?

Just ignore us and concentrate on celebrating rather than constantly coming back to challenge us as to WHY you were worthy champions Paper champions wont get old

Lol i love it that you bite amorgos Your thread is plagued by everything that clouds this championship off the field

The fact that you aektzides keep defending and justifying why aek are worthy champions simply tells me how insecure you guys are about how you won the championship. I get it its a shame that the championship wasn't won completely on the field. It continuously proves my point that this championship will forever be clouded with skepticism

If history is only about honours and accolades then i pity your belief in what history means. If being a fan of panathinaikos is only because of the honours your club has then i pity you as a fan and all of panathinaikos' fanbase

Scoreboard actually says that the PAOK-AEK match stands at 1-0 to PAOK in the 90th min. It's the official score. Check it out on the official Greek Superleague website. Best team? Hmmm nearly but only with the help of deductions to PAOK. Your championship will always be clouded with skepticism.

That would probably be the 70's and 80's with huge crowds across the whole league and the most level playing field with no consistent run of championships for any team and we had 5 different clubs winning a title then.

Bahh let them celebrate and they should be celebrating. The funny thing is that they are not celebrating to the level we have seen for other championships as they keep coming back to defend the worthiness of their title across forums, social media, in the actual media and in general life. If i were an aektzi i would just be ignoring PAOK and other fans because the more they defend their 'deserving' title the more skepticism there is clouding their title. As i have said there will forever be a cloud lingering over their title which unfortunately is a shame to have for any champion.

And keep defending yours

well derrrr how did you expect this topic to go... we will have our view and you will have yours. the one thing that is for sure which is unfortunate, is that a cloud will always linger over this championship and aektzides will always need to retaliate in defense of how worthy your championship was for aek. Regardless of opinions the champion for this season will never be known had it played out till the end without any incidents and for that very reason we will refute your 'deserved' and 'best' tags and you will always need to defend those tags.

Great you are finally agreeing without knowing it. So aek didn't win the championship. It was awarded to aek via default via our stupid actions. I don't expect aek to do anything as in hand over the trophy. Its the constant labeling of aek being 'the best' and 'deserving' of the championship. You were not the best. You were good but not not the best as you were awarded a championship via default by being 2nd throughout most of the campaign. Deserving not sure why. Is this because you are all mighty aek and from athens. I really dont get why any team is more deserving of any other team apart from who is last past the post via points on the football field. Its the way aektzides are parading around this like 10years of whinging about leaving football on the field and not the courts has miraculously been forgotten. Anyways hestika your violin pic i like quoting this chant : ΑΕΚ γερά, τιτλο στα χαρτιά! ΑΕΚ γερά, τιτλο στα χαρτιά! ΑΕΚ γερά, τιτλο στα χαρτιά!

We've been hearing aek whinge for the last decade about 2008 yet they get frustrated hearing it from other fans now on their default win. 10years of 'titles should be won on the football field not in tye courts' has vanished from their memories. ΑΕΚ γερά, τιτλο στα χαρτιά! ΑΕΚ γερά, τιτλο στα χαρτιά! ΑΕΚ γερά, τιτλο στα χαρτιά!

Yawn. Read the forums again i think most PAOK fans have owned it including myself that we lost it due to stupid actions of 1 fan and 1 owner. Still dosen't negate the fact then that you won by default. That actually cant be disputed. So technically: ΑΕΚ γερά, τιτλο στα χαρτιά! ΑΕΚ γερά, τιτλο σταχαρτιά! ΑΕΚ γερά, τιτλο στα χαρτιά!