Rockafeller Skank

1.Santos wouldnt try to play offensively 2. Santos wouldnt put non-wingers players at winger positions. If he HAD to play wingers , he would play wingers there, not Diamantakos , and certainly not Mavrias. 3. Santos would lock the match against finland at 1-0 and wouldnt end up drawing. 4. Santos wouldnt run confused by calling in the NT every footballer who is elidgible for Greece 5. Santos wouldnt lose the dressing rooms. Players respected him for his qualifying campaigns and his achievements on Euro 12 and WC 14. but most importantly and which is exactly what happened: 6. Santos would not stay for a corrupt Greek Federation.

Draw Gibraltar 5-5 Draw Cyprus 2-2 Draw Estonia 0-0 Win Bosnia 2-0 Win Belgium 1-0 Lose to Gibraltar Lose to Cyprus Win bosnia 4-1 Win Belgium 1-0 Win Estonia 1-0 My face when Cyprus makes it to the world cup, but at least our coach won Belgium and BiH, sooo :D

You trying to point out we need to prepare for Belgium now ? No bro, realistic aim is 2nd spot, we aim to winning all other matches until then , while preparing for that much "on our free time".

Yep , it plays a big part. The Belgians have it easy since they made it in the far round sof this and the previous National Tournaments. The only ones im really afraid of from the Belgium Team are Hazard, Nainggolan and De bruyne. Nothing much in defence, nothing much the rest.

We have a core of players to finish even above belgium ,mark my words. Its the mentality and the misery that's gotta be surpassed.

Klonaridis is a no from me. Barely plays at PAO. Speed doesnt put in goals. He is fast but nothing else. Barely a starter at PAO. Now idk about Villafanez, the only positions we are currently full are CB , 10 and Striker. He seems quite slow for a winger.

Yes i totally mean it apparently.

Moras is a tired fella. I heard he has given 1 nefro to his brother and has had several surgeries. Maybe its gonna be for vacation mostly there, and sell some shirts for the Greek lads. Would be nice for you Greek fans.

Buffon sucks

A coach actually reporting some actual work results ( a line up not working) , instead of saying "we are currently working on that" "we are expecting that and that and that" is something new. Maybe Skibbe is a legit guy. As I said earlier. No need for a master tactician in NT level, just someone to unite the lads and form a team that can play ball with confidence.

Australia is a team that would make it to this summer's Euros. Nothing worse than Hungary, Finland , Estonia, Cyprus. Bad thing is that both Mantalos and Fortounis usually play on the same side. We could however use Fortounis as a winger but i sort of think that this means we dont use his full potential. Fortounis starter and mantalos sub or Fortounis 10 and Mantalos 8 with another 8 in the likes of Samaris or Petsos seems nice as well. Petsos physical position is 6. But is he that good defensively to be used as a 6 or does the 8 position suit him best ? This could change pretty much everything on a 4-2-2-2 Karnezis Toro-Manolas-Sokratis-Holebas Petsos - Samaris Mantalos - Fortounis (both wide but not flankers) Mitroglou-Karelis On paper doesnt seem so bad. I know i ve defended Petsos a lot in these forums but we should/could wait to see him at Werder before judging. Yet again, a Tachtsidis and a Maniatis dont seem anything promising either. Plus I am aware that a system without wingers is not really utilizing the modern football's bonus effects, but noone likes Pelkas for a sterter yet and Fortounis seems rather slow for a winger. Karelis doesnt play winger anymore either. So who would be used in your opinion. Please, no Fetfatzidis. And why does everyone like Bakasetas and Gianniotas and Diamantakos so much as wingers. 1) 2 of them are not even wingers in their respective clubs. 2) You dont like Pelkas because he is 22 but suddently a Diamantakos aged 23, a Gianniotas aged 22 and a Bakasetas aged 22 make a semi decent season and everyone is like wow. If its about competition time, its pretty obvious when you have a fan's favorite Athanasiadis, and a budget enogh for Mak, Berbatov, Rodriguez etc, you will have to play them instead because otherwise you ve wasted a few millions on nothing. Which team aside from Olympiakos would Pelkas not be a starter ? Plus , i know i ve said it a few times as well in this forum, but watching the play-offs he is very decent at corners. Every one of them well hit exactly where needed. The need for someone fresh to hit corners and set pieces gives him a bonus. 3) Do not think of me as a fool who is basing all his hopes on a 22 year old Paoki.He is definately not that good as I make him appear, but cut the Panionios/APOEL non-winger players on winger positions cr@p. If we re gonna get a winger it would be a good idea to use a decent one and someone NON-OLYMPIAKOS-RELATED (aka his career not destroyed). This comming from someone who supports Olympiakos , but the NT is something completely unrelated to it.

Pelkas seems to play well in the other flank alongside Mak. Paok mostly uses Mak as a finishes on the flank, while every attack starts from the Right Flank. I dont rate him anything lower than Mak, talentwise. Their only difference is a name and an experienced career. However, we were saying such things 5-6 years ago for Fetfatzidis maybe, even for Kone and Stafylidis. Lets not rush it, but if Pelkas stays at Paok for a long period of time and gets used from his coaches, we can have hope. After 24-25 players have usually reached their full potential and can make a move to a bigger(not the biggest) club without ending up bench material.

And dont start telling me that every small GSL team plays in favour of Olympiakos. If Alafouzos and Melissanidis can't make a squad that can beat teams with 1/10th of their roster value you can't blame anyone. You don't need to win them with a +4 goal difference like Olympiakos to get the three pointers. 1 goal difference in favor of your team is enough. AKA. If they are not interested in giving money for the team, Why would the common people give money instead ?

Red sheriff is 100% legit. Especially Relegation of clubs with fan crowd is probably mroe than 50% responsible for the decrease in attendance. Another thing that decreased the club support is the non-competitive league. There would be times where people would pay to see every match of their favorite big team (AEK PAO OSFP) because every match was an opportunity for them to reach the top. Now, even if they win the big contestant for the title (aka OSFP) the other teams manage to get miraculous draws with teams like Panaitolikos, Levadiakos and Platanias, getting them off the competition rather early.

Bad attitude and self interest over team spirit is what cost us. We didnt really lose our best players but probably our worse (apart from Karagounis). Katsouranis nothing special , Gekas good but nothing special. some Spyropouloi Tziolides nothing special. And thats the reason that we have high chances to make a comeback. Because we didn't lose the talent. Just the morality and consistency. BVB had a similar season, noone went crying and judging "we cant beat even Hoffenheim in our current form". Chelsea had a similar season, noone went "here come the dark days like before 2005 , we gonna lose to Nottingham forrest next season just because we can". We didnt really need a coach just someone to unite them. Besides you can't expect to teach ball to these players. Most of them already play under some of the best coaches and train against some of the best players , their teammates. All you gotta do is find a strategy or two that will suit your

We can't blame anything to the economic crisis. Ukraine had a war and they still made it to the Euros (despite failing there). They made it with a far worse roster.

The amount of off-topicness in this topic is weird.

Mitroglou hattrick on netherlans defence as we manage to lose 3-12. Bet on it boys. big cash inc.

Genoa finished 11 with 46 points. They got +8 WHOLE more points than the team that got relegated as 18th. You see it like that it seems safe. But the fun fact is that they finished -45 points behind the champion. Does that really make them a non-bad team ? Besides I never said genoa was in danger of getting relegated (although they were) . You can clearly read my comment again and you will understand (hopefully) that I said he can't settle in the mediocre teams , either.

Guy can't settle in any of the mediocre mid-table temas of Italy , noone bats an eye Guy can't even settle in any of the relegating teams of Italy, noone bats an eye We lose control in the midfield in ALMOST all matches where he plays with Samaris as his partner, noone bats an eye Rockafeller Skank sais we should use the Samaris Petsos Fortounis midfield -> EVERYONE LOSES THEIR SH!T and blasts off saying "Why would a Austrian League champion be any better than the Serie A player who no commentator knows his name?" Then I remember. Serie A is included in Pro Evolution Soccer, while Austrian Liga is not.

I ve heard Fetfa has had problems with lifestyle. From Olympiakos already he had been seen going out clubbing and drinking with whores. Im pretty sure he got bigger money in Genoa and of course in his Arab team, so why would he not continue ? No dicipline makes him unfit for his team. EPO might have someone to contact to his teams to ask about Fetfatzidis. If their man say he is unfit why bother and useh im ? Did he even play at the Australian friendlies ? How could he lose a starter spot in 2 games with all our good offensive players missing ?

Im a cutie

He is much better than that. But he decided to end his career rather than take a proper treatment for his back problems. He is probably there at he team to commercialize the league and the team itself.

Im 21 now but Its a lot sadder to be in the proper age to travel to France for this summer, and have it organized back in 2014-2015 and realizing you cant coz your NT didnt qualify :'( .