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VS MATCHUP: Panionios Athens - P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki COMPETITION: Superleague – Round 15 DATE: 19-December-2019 TIME: 19:30 EET (17:30 GMT, 11:30 CST, 04:30 AEDT next day) CITY/STADIUM: Athens - Nea Smyrni Stadium (Capacity: 11,115) REFEREES: Stefanos Koumbarakis (Thraki) - Reinhart Bauxbaum (Anatoliki Attiki), Christos Baltas (Achaia) TELEVISION: Novasports 2 (Greece, Cyprus, Albania), Sport Plus (USA, Canada, Australia) Panionios – PAOK history: Superleague 2018-2019: 0:1 (El Kaddouri) - Attendance: 2,399 2017-2018: 2:2 (Koulouris-p, Matos) - Attendance: 2,974 2016-2017: 0:1 (own goal) - Attendance: 1,346 (PLAYOFFS) 2016-2017: 1:0 - Attendance: 2,428 2015-2016: 0:2 (Athanasiadis, Mak) - Attendance: 1,609 (PLAYOFFS) 2015-2016: 3:1 (Tziolis) - Attendance: 2,505 2014-2015: 0:0 - Attendance: 3,060 2013-2014: 2:0 - Attendance: 1,711 2012-2013: 1:2 (Athanasiadis 2) - Attendance: 3,953 2011-2012: 1:2 (Athanasiadis, Salpiggidis) - Attendance: 3,493 2010-2011: 1:0 - Attendance: 3,114 2009-2010: 0:0 - Attendance: 2,003 2008-2009: 1:2 (Bakayoko 2) - Attendance: 3,149 2007-2008: 0:0 - Attendance: 2,632 2006-2007: 3:1 (Giasemis) - Attendance: 4,478 2005-2006: 0:1 (Salpiggidis) - Attendance: ? Alpha Ethniki (Professional) 2004-2005: 2:0 - Attendance: 2,335 2003-2004: 1:0 - Attendance: 2,251 2002-2003: 2:0 - Attendance: 2,737 2001-2002: 1:1 (Giasemis) - Attendance: 5,033 2000-2001: 1:1 (Okkas) - Attendance: 1,189 1999-2000: 1:1 (Frousos) - Attendance: ? 1998-1999: 0:1 (Krismarevic) - Attendance: ? 1997-1998: 0:3 (Kafes, Maragos, Nagbe) - Attendance: 3,093 1996-1997: Panionios played in B’ Division 1995-1996: 2:1 (Anastasiadis) - Attendance: 2,982 1994-1995: 3:1 (Bocziek) - Attendance: 2,470 1993-1994: 1:1 (Lagonidis) - Attendance: 2,282 1992-1993: Panionios played in B’ Division 1991-1992: 1:1 (Skartados) - Attendance: ? 1990-1991: 2:0 - Attendance: ? 1989-1990: 1:3 (Skartados, Mitoglou, Plitsis)) - Attendance: ? 1988-1989: 0:0 - Attendance: 5.170 1987-1988: 1:1 (Karasavvidis) - Attendance: ? 1986-1987: 2:0 FORFEIT 1985-1986: 2:1 (Kostikos) - Attendance: ? 1984-1985: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1983-1984: 2:2 (Dimopoulos, own goal) - Attendance: 10,000 1982-1983: 1:0 - Attendance: 7,465 1981-1982: 1:1 (Damanakis) - Attendance: ? 1980-1981: 1:1 (Kermanidis) - Attendance: 11,064 1979-1980: 2:1 (Guerino-p) - Attendance: 10,247 Alpha Ethniki (Amateur/Semi-Professional) 1978-1979: 2:1 (Sarafis) - Attendance: 4,710 1977-1978: 0:0 - Attendance: 7,272 1976-1977: 0:0 - Attendance: 5,710 1975-1976: 0:4 (Koudas 2, Anastasiadis, Kermanidis) - Attendance: ? (played in Larisa) 1974-1975: 2:2 (Aslanidis, Paridis) - Attendance: ? 1973-1974: 1:1 (Sarafis) - Attendance: ? 1972-1973: 0:0 - Attendance: ? 1971-1972: 0:1 (Koudas) - Attendance: ? 1970-1971: 3:1 (Koudas) - Attendance: 11,809 1969-1970: 0:0 - Attendance: 2,475 1968-1969: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1967-1968: 3:2 (Afentoulidis, Lazos) - Attendance: ? 1966-1967: 1:0 - Attendance: ? 1965-1966: 2:2 (Koudas, Charalambidis) - Attendance: 2,932 1964-1965: 1:1 (Vasiliadis) - Attendance: ? 1963-1964: 5:1 (Leandros) - Attendance: ? 1962-1963: 3:2 (Vasiliadis, Savvidis) - Attendance: 4,000 1961-1962: 0:1 (Raptopoulos) - Attendance: ? 1960-1961: 1:2 (Vasiliadis, Sidiropoulos) - Attendance: 7,000 1959-1960: 2:1 (Kiourtzis) - Attendance: ? Panhellenic Championship 1958-1959: 6:1 (Leandros) - Attendance: ? 1957-1958: 2:2 (Leandros, Havanidis) - Attendance: ? 1956-1957: 1:3 (Chourbouliadis 2, Kouiroukidis) - Attendance: 10,000 GAMES: 63 WINS: 15 TIES: 23 LOSSES: 25
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Worst possible draw, but we should not have a problem.
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Varela in for Matos
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Great pass by Misic
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Akpom, Kaddouri in Swiderski, Pelkas out
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It will change when Biseswar comes in.
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1:0 halftime Need to score one more to be safe. We did not play well after scoring the goal.
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Why aren't you watching on ERT Sport?
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The most PAOK fans outside of Greece are located mostly in Germany. There are not that many PAOK fans in the US and Canada. There are probably more PAOK fans in Australia (even though it does not exist). The problem there as noted by our friends from down under is the time when the games are played live, so we can't expect many subs from there. I would venture a guess that the subscriptions outside of Greece are around 3,000 as Yiankos points out. Definitely not more than 5,000.
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For next European season we are already guaranteed 2 spots in CL and 3 in EL. For 2021-2022 we are almost 99.9% sure not to finish in 15th place, so it doesn't really much matter what Olympiakos does. The only good thing is that they will be busy with European game in between Superleague games. As it is the PAOK - Olympiakos game will be played in between the two EL games that Olympiakos will play (Thursday EL game, Sunday PAOK - Olympiakos, Thursday EL game). This can only be good for our team.
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Glad to know there is at least one person that likes me. As for Larisa numbers I have not heard anything, but I think it would be safe to assume that the number is around 10,000 - 20,000 judging from previous similar games. As it is all those numbers are estimates anyway, unless PAE PAOK comes out with official numbers.
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Petros Tsagarakis (Chania), the son of the ex-ref during the "paranga" days has been assigned to call this game. What is with all these ex-referee offspring's going into the refereeing trade? There must be some good money in that field.
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@pash the commercial subs are around 1,000 (not 800). Not sure about the OPAP subs, but I think the 1,000 figure is a bit high.
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On a radio show on Arena FM. That's where the 50,000 figure came from as well. Foreign subscription number were not mentioned. The presenter on the show claimed that his contact at PAE PAOK expressed his displeasure with the low foreign subscriptions. Also I remember few week backs on the same show there were several callers from Germany that claimed that only small percentage of PAOK fans subscribe to PAOK TV, and that most prefer broken IPTV services that include PAOK TV as one of their channel.
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If you don't subscribe to the season package you are not able to watch past games.
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All those shady IPTV services are always one lawsuit/police raid away from being terminated.
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Here are some number updates for PAOK TV: 20,000 individual subscriptions sold for the PAOK - Xanthi game The total number for full season subscriptions is around 50,000. Previous figures (55,000+) that were floating around were someone's imagination. Commercial subs are around 1,000. Finally PAE PAOK is very disappointed from the subscriptions outside of Greece. They were expecting bigger numbers. I think as long as all the illegal IPTV services have access to the PAOK TV stream, I would not expect the foreign subscriptions to improve.
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One of the most over rated Greek defensmen who got away with murder because he played for Olympiakos. On top of that he should have been kicked out of football altogether for involvement in illegal football betting
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Probably the toughest game of the three that are left before Christmas. Would not be surprised if we barely squeeze a win on Sunday.
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It turns out it was not Panopoulos's dealership that was set on fire. However the big news from yesterday is that Aris "majority shareholder" went on Marinakis's TV channel saying that Olympiakos and Aris are being cheated out by EPO and referees. He also said that PAOK and Xanthi should be investigated and relegated from Superleague. Basically he was reading a prepared statement written for him by Karapapas and Theodoridis. If there was any doubt that Olympiakos controls the 'O' Aris football team than after yesterday's events there should not be any doubts left. Incidentally the same propaganda was spread around by the ex-Olympiakos player and ex-Aris coach Anastopoulos over the weekend. Looks like an organized propaganda campaign by Marinakis and his stooges.
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Last time I checked their web site the monthly subscriptions were $39.99, $49.99 and $69.99. That was before their lawsuit with Dishnetwork.
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VS MATCHUP: Panaitolikos Agrinio - P.A.O.K. Thessaloniki COMPETITION: Superleague - Round 14 DATE: 15-December-2019 TIME: 19:30 EET (17:30 GMT, 11:30 CST, 04:30 AEDT next day) CITY / STADIUM: Agrinio - Panaitolikos Stadium(Capacity: 7,500) REFEREES: Petros Tsagarakis (Chania) - Pantelis Spyropoulos (An. Attiki), Iordanis Dimitriadis (Kastoria) TELEVISION: ERT Sports HD (Greece), ERT Sports HD web stream (worldwide) Panaitolikos – PAOK History: SUPERLEAGUE 2018-2019: 1:2 (Vieirinha, Matos) - Attendance: 3,520 2017-2018: 0:1 (Prijovic-p) - Attendance: 3,199 2016-2017: 0:1 (Mystakidis) - Attendance: 2,339 2015-2016: 0:3 (Athanasiadis 2, Korovesis) - Attendance: 1,876 2014-2015: 0:1 (Mak-p) - Attendance: 3,361 2013-2014: 2:0 - Attendance: no fans 2011-2012: 1:1 (Cirilo) - Attendance: 5,401 ALPHA ETHNIKI (Amateur/Semi-Professional) 1976-1977: 1:2 (Orfanos 2) - Attendance: 7,455 1975-1976: 0:2 (Sarafis-p, Kermanidis) - Attendance: ? The famous game where the Panaitolikos fans attacked the referee Rammos and cut his ear off. http://www.paokmania.gr/images/ar8ra/2012/Aspromaures-Stories/Rammos/rammos.JPG PANHELLENIC CHAMPIONSHIP (Amateur) 1954-1955: 0:2 (Gentzis, Margaritis) - Attendance: ? GAMES: 10 WINS: 8 TIES: 1 LOSSES: 1