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Anyone agreeing with the rules and comparing what happened last season with the beer can and the roll of paper this year is part of the problem... or at the very least least a symptom of the problem. There is no common sense applied and the rules are taken advantage of to the detriment of the game in Greece. Play the PAOK math behind closed doors.. no one could argue that isn’t the fair thing to do at least. With regards to the game against AEK. Play the last few mins with the score that was on the board at the time... Whether that was 1-0 or 0-0. Then investigate what the f@vk went on with the officials after PAOK scored. The officials lost all control and must either be incompetent or cheating. Either way they should be investigated, then if deemed incompetent rather than corrupt, sent through training and courses to improve or just admit that officiating high pressure games of football are not for them. ‘Weak’ and ‘culpable’ are two words I would use to discribe them and their shocking performance. Finally, the ‘punish all’ rules in Greek football are a joke and only make people more entrenched and divided. Punish the guilty.. not the innocent.

JVC, we need to compare apples with apples. For arguments sake let's say the momentum of the beer can was the same as the paper roll (it wasn't because the roll apparently weighs ~50 grams, while even at half full, that beer can is ~250 grams. So at the same throwing speed, at best the roll is 20% the momentum). The difference was that Ivic was actually looked at by the stadium doctor before being taken out by medical staff. Olympiakos refused medical inspection from the stadium doctor and basically snuck out with a private car. That makes the injury seem even more suspicious. If you are injured enough that you need to go to hospital, do you really refuse medical help at the time of the injury? Again, I bring the North American mentality where all head injuries immediately go through concussion protocol at the stadium. I still think it was pathetic that he was escorted in a wheel chair. Did the stadium doctor actually say he wasn't ok to continue? That's where the main difference of the two incidents need to be looked at. What happened with Savvidis was crossing the line. But lost in the gun, which no one saw until minutes after he was off the field, was the fact that PAOK scored a goal. We can debate whether it was offside or onside until we are blue in the face, and we will never have the right answer. The issue is that the ruling on the field was initially "Goal", based on the ref signalling a goal, and the assistant not raising his flag, and even motioning to centre of the pitch. Heck even the keeper who was the one apparently obstructed, didn't even complain. Then AEK players swarm the assistant, and after a few minutes, the ruling on the field is changed. The events that followed are a boil over of the previous three weeks circus. Actually, you can even argue that it was a boil over of the 50 year circus of Greek soccer. This is why we need to actually stop the league and have a proper inquiry to all the things that affect Greek soccer. Greece will win the World Cup before that ever happens.

2-1 to Atromitos, our small group of fans will start a civil war in Athens with 2 flares and a chicken and the club will be forced to be disbanded.