bides Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 The better team lost today..The boys played well but couldnt bury Udinese when they needed too..Hopefully we can make UEFA..Bravo ston Charalambides for scoring his first!! Hopefully we can concentrate on the league know and makes some headway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bides Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Anyone have a link of the Goal we scored.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRIFILARA Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 ok... putting it simply... When u play like u do in the 1st half.... the score should be EASILY 2 to 3-0... u start the 2nd half well.... now here is the downfall... THE COACH... or a so-called coach.... makes a sub in the 65th MINUTE which makes the HOME TEAM totally DEFENSIVE, by taking off a striker and subbing on a half.... WRONG!!!! what does this say to the players????? YOUR AT HOME.... THE CROWD IS BEHIND U.... YOUR WINNING.... NOW SIT AND DEFEND???? OXI file mou.... AFTOS O PROPONITIS DEN KANI GIA TON PANATHINAIKO.. he thinks he's coaching some relegation team in Italy!!!!!!!! sorry... i have given him too many chances... alla aftos den kanei... this is my opinion anyhow..... :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choc13 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 to psari vromai apo to kefali!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Ti gabritida einai ayti pou exoume kollisei fetos!!!!!!! :LOL: :LOL: M'arese o agwnas simera,m'arese pou mazeytike kai kosmos para tis antiksoes synthikes...Ennowntas to kryo,tin katarraktwdi broxi kai olo ton polemo pou dexetai i omada apo efimerides,dimosiografous ktl... To prwto imixrono itan oti kalytero exw dei mexri stigmis ap'ayti tin omada kai an eixame nikisei,oloi aytoi pou krazoun twra to Male tha ton eixan bgalei proponitara!! Re paidia ayto einai to podosfairo,ayti einai kai i OMORFIA tou,einai aproblepto!! Den eimaste oute Barca oute paizame me tin Kolopetinitsa!! De stenaxwrithika apopse giati epaiksan me pathos kai kinigisan to paixnidi!Makari na epaizan etsi sta misa paixnidia prwtathlimatos.....Gi'ayto to logo pisteyw oti de ftaiei o Male pou mesa se 2 lepta fagame 2 goal,kai pou sto katw katw den proirthan apo organwmenes epitheseis... Gia oli ayti tin katastasi pisteyw oti "ftaine" oi paixtes...Se merika paixnidia plirwnoume tin apeiria(CL) kai se alla tin yperboliki sigouria(prwtathlima).... To kalo poio einai?Oti ayto me to xrono diorthwnetai!!! Me to xrono kai oxi me to n'allazoume proponites! :angry: Diladi ti eprepe na kanei apopse o Male?Na mpei ki aytos mesa?Otan ebgale ton Pap mas eixan idi parei monoterma kai ebale Adric mipws kratithei i balla sto kentro afou den kratiotan pouthena allou...Se alla paixnidia tou bgike,e apopse de tou bgike re paidia..Etsi einai ta sistimata alliws na to gyrisoume sto playstation!! Na sas pw kai to kako?Apoxairetiste tin Eyrwpi gia fetos....Kai oi 4 bathmoi polloi mas einai...Ap'tou xronou pali....Tha eimaste kai kalyteroi!! PANATHA FOR EVER :nw: :nw: Den ksenerwnoume pote.... :box: P.S.Epeksigisi gia to 5etes plano giati merikoi den prepei na'xoun parei xampari ti paizei....Den ennooun oti tha arxisoume na ylopoioume tous stoxous mas meta apo 5 xronia kai mesa s'ayta ta 5 tha xtizoume tin omada..oute to giofyri tis Artas na eimastan...H omada tha poreytei ta epomena 5 xronia me tous paixtes pou exei kai me ton idio proponiti kai tha ginontai apla orismenes prosthikes sto empsixo yliko...Edw twra katafernoume kai kanoume prwtathlitismo,fantasteite tou xronou..kai tou paraxronou kok..Parte gia paradeigma tin AEK,pou exei 2 xronia ton Santos kai merikous basikous paiktes kai twra paizoun kali mpalla epeidi exei mathei o enas to paixnidi tou allou kai exoun anaptiksei kali sxesi oi paiktes metaksy tous alla kai me ton Santos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCity1924 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 O MALESANIS DEN THA PERASI OREA TA XRISTOUGENA!!! EVERY PAO FANS SHOULD DONATE 5 CENTS AND BUY HIM A ONEWAY TICKET TO VERONA!!!! CIAO PAPARA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panos13 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 To kalo poio einai?Oti ayto me to xrono diorthwnetai!!! Me to xrono kai oxi me to n'allazoume proponites! Brave Grace, etsi einai. At last someone with some sense here. :tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamatianos Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I wish that was the case Grace... I am not against Malessani being our coach. I am against his tackticks. And that means that if we are to better our team we need to approach some of the things we did right in the past, like with Markarian as a coach. Malessani is stuck to a system that cane be fruitfull with high quality players. A team of our caliber should count our strenths and weaknesses, not think that if Parma's superteam with Malessani won the Eufa cup a couple of years ago... Some of our strenths are: MORRIS: CB SERICH: LB GONZALESl : 10ari SAMARTEAN: RX OR 10ari CONSEISAO + BISCAN: BH GALINOVICH HARALABIDIS: SET PEICES TOGERLLE: STRONG STRIKER. GOOD AT WINNING HEADERS OLISADEBE: BEST GOALSCORER EVER SINCE WARZECHA MANZIOS: STRIKER THAT CAN HOLD THE BALL IN THE OFFEENCE WHILE IS NOT TIRED... GOUMAS OR KOTSIOS AS 2ND AFTER MORRIS CB all we have to do is use freaking some of the strenths of the team and go for the best. That is what we usually did in the past with coached like Markarian. We used some of our best atributes. We didn't just follow a logical system and time will tell. If you all think that for the next 5 years the team is pretty much going to stay the same you are wrong. Just a small pece of info. Cezar is probably coming our way at Winter brake from Aek for the LX possition already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 H fimi gia Sezar diapseystike kai mallon einai kolpo tou manager tou gia na piesei tin AEK na plirwsei tin ritra twn 400.000 euros... Den eipa oti i omada tha meinei idia gia ta 5 xronia pou erxontai..Eipa oti tha ginoun kai prosthikes..Kai an paroume ton Sezar prosthiki tha einai... Oso gia to Male....Exei skeftei kaneis pws tou anthrwpou de tou katebainoun etsi oi idees gia to poious paixtes tha xrisimopoiisei kai pou alla energei analoga m'ayta pou blepei stin proponisi? Iremiste,den einai xazos o anthrwpos kai dilwnei oti kserei se poia omada exei erthei...Xrono thelei paidia...De kserw kanena pou na mporei na doulepsei dimiourgika katw apo piesi...Tin piesi pou askoun ston idio kai tous paiktes dimosiografoi,efimerides,akoma kai oi idioi opadoi...Giati exoun idi tin piesi tis fanelas kai tis istorias tou Panathinaikou...Stiriksi thelei i omada,oxi krites..oxi akoma toulaxiston... An allaksei o proponitis mpainoume ston idio faylo kyklo pou kseroume ti apotelesmata exei...As dokimasoume kati kainourio,pou to akolouthoun oles oi omades sti podosfairiki Eyrwpi...kai ta blepoume ta apotelesmata.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akritis_1944 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Tonights banner reads: "Self Inflicted Suicide" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dimitriis Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Den exw kouragio oute na diavasw ti lete, oute na milhsw analutika gia to mats, oute kan agglika na grapsw. Ena mono 8a pw. Gia mena to sthsimo ths omadas sto deutero hmixrono htan la8os! OTAN PAIZEIS ME UDINEZE MESA STO OAKA KAI KERDIZEIS 1-0, STO DEYTERO HMIXRONO BGAINEIS NA PAIKSEIS EPI8ETIKA KAI NA THN STRHMOKSEIS, OXI NA THS DWSEIS XWRO. ME UDINEZE PAIZAME, OXI ME JUVENTUS! 8a epanel8w! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 My final word on this topic.... Let me explain something to all you Malesani haters… Firstly you cannot blame him for the loss today if anything you must blame the players them selves, why you ask?? First off all they should have held out, any real team would have held out the 1-0 lead, but to let in not only one goal but a second goal in the space of 2 minutes with 10 minutes to go is just plane ridicules & disgraceful not to mention dishonorable to the Pao jersey. Some people might blame the Italian for taking out a Striker (who by the way wasn’t doing much) for a defensive midfielder (who by the way almost scored with instant success when coming on to the field) to hold up and control the game However how can you blame the coach for the players letting in 2 goals!!! How was Malesani supposed to predict that his defenders will have a collapse in concentration towards the end and let in 2 goals in succession??? The answer is HE DIDN’T NO COACH WOULD HAVE KNOWN!!! … Now I bet u my life if scenario was that he had keep on pap and the attacking style pao was playing, the players them selves would dropped off due to fatigue which COULD/COULD NOT have lead to the goals. However let’s just say it also would have let in the goals for argument sake, and then I bet you my life the people who r blaming Malesani now will also have blamed Malesani for this scenario saying why didn’t he defend the lead bla bla bla…. Another reason why we should also blame the players them selves for this loss is because 11 Boys/Kotes (not men, coz men win games) not only let in two goals in the space of 2 minutes with 10 minutes to go in the game but also couldn’t put them away in the first half!!! What was it 17 shots on goal to Udinese’s 3??? COMMON what kind of team is this when they dominate the whole first half and only have 1 goal to show for it?? See how many fouls Udinese did?? They were struggling to keep up with paos pace and domination yet the kotes couldn’t fire past the keeper at least a second time. Out of the 17 shots on goal 7 were on target which makes it 1/7 = 14.28% succession rate. Yet Udinese had 2 goals from a possible 4 on target which makes it 50%!!! Another reason to blame the players…. Also I wont buy the excuse of it was raining and the field was crap because even though that might be true, Udinese still scored at a 50% rate of success… In conclusion I blame 100% of the blame on the players them selves because A) They couldn’t hold out for another 10 more minutes and not only they couldn’t hold out but to let in 2 goals in 2 minutes is just pitiful. No one else is to blame except the defensive line and Kota-sios B) A real team should have a higher success rate in putting away goals when they get unlimited amounts of opportunity. If they put away a second goal I guarantee you Udinese would have gone all out in the second half causing them to cop another on the counter… Wake up people, if Malesani gets the sack do you honestly think were gonna get someone better? Will probably end up with another scansy… Pao have a plan and that is to build a team for the future and good things take time… stop looking for the quick fix because that’s what weve done for the last 10 years and it has brought us peanuts = 1 League title, 1 Cup and a couple of decent runs in Europe… NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!! Sure pao have problems but like I said things take time, I honestly believe we need another 2 quality defenders and proper wingers… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeksoccerfanatic Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Platz, Klatz kai eisotho sto kypello UEFA. It just was not meant to be boys, but come on here we should expect this from such a strong team such as "A European PAO?" Oux apo'dw palio xamenoi. Time for a rebuilding process yet again and it starts with the departure of M alakane. Ti m alakas anthropos einai autos re paidia. Pou twn vrikanai ? Shows you what kind of coach he is when he states "eimai perifanos gia thn omada mou". I wish I was the coach of PAO. I would rip everybody and make them cry on this team. I mean to lose the game in six minutes time and be "Perifanos". Ade kai afisai mas eisixous re M alakane. Katalavame ti proponeitis eisai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 hollywood... kala a ipes bravo ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Platz, Klatz kai eisotho sto kypello UEFA. It just was not meant to be boys, but come on here we should expect this from such a strong team such as "A European PAO?" Oux apo'dw palio xamenoi. Time for a rebuilding process yet again and m#$%!ne must go. Ti m alakas anthropos einai autos re paidia. Pou twn vrikanai twn ilithio? An imoun sth thesi sou de tha to anoiga to stoma mou... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDmagic Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 talk about your team in your forum dude... this isnt about your teamIt was ok when you opened up the topic about olympiakos 0% CL and 5% UEFA :whistle: As they say what goes around comes around..i say PAO has 0% chance for CL and 5.1% chance in UEFA :LOL: :LOL: By the way the porno today was great :LOL: :P :LOL: :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeksoccerfanatic Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Se pia thesi re Grace? Me ti niki tou Thrylo stin Norviegia aupio benoume sto keinoigei gia tpith sto omilo kai se thesi gia eisotho sto Kypello Uefa. Stin ithia thesi opos eseis re Grace. Ti v lakies les twra. I gave my opinion that Malesani is not the coach for Pao because of his poor decision making. Strong players but wrong tactics are proving costly to this team. Where as Olympiakos has a good coach but with players that dont deserve to play on this team. I mean if they cant play Sollied's system by now than this means they will never learn it and it is time to go. The rebuilding for Thrylos is long overdue, but Sollied must stay in our case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalamatianos Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Hollywood, I didn't say to keep Pap in the whole game. I said to not change the system and leave Manzio alone in the up front. This is why we have so many strikers. First things first Pap should not start over Togerlle. But say the way things are and we are winning 1-0 the beginning of the second half. You see that Pap is your worst player out there. What you do ? You take him off and put an other one in his place. I mean another Striker. Use Togerlle, after 20-25 minutes take off Manzio as well and replace him with Olisadebe. Don't pull your team back while you know that you are at home and your opposition is in a very difficult situation that is about to play all they have in the offence, meaning that they will be vanureble in the counter attacks. If we kept 2 strikers up front (fresh from the bench) we would be in a better possition not to keep them from scoring, but to extend our lead. I mean everybody praizes the fact that we dominated until the 65th min. because we simply did not got afraid of them. We played our soccer. And then... Let us all sit back and defend like either a small or a big team would. A small team because they were lucky to score first, or a big team because they trust their ability to win games even with one goal diffrense. Well we are Pao. We are not a small team, nor a really big club. We are a team that under normal coaching can easily beat teams of Udinesse's caliber. Only a team like Osfp had me used to slow down their game after they score. Now it is evident that Malessani depends his succes on that. Gone are the days that with Basina and Hengrisen, not even Maradona could score against our solid defense... :tdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 By the way ive noticed members from this site and the other site like to copy my signature… well the format of it… ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 It was ok when you opened up the topic about olympiakos 0% CL and 5% UEFA :whistle: As they say what goes around comes around..i say PAO has 0% chance for CL and 5.1% chance in UEFA :LOL: :LOL: By the way the porno today was great :LOL: :P :LOL: :LOL: emis ehoume hasi tosa pehnidia the way PAO lost todaycopping goals last few minuites yet our european record sux Paos record is way better yet somehow they are trying to play like us for some reason :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 thrilosmtl you have a point here. Maybe we need back to the tsoukou-tsoukou ball. Everyone was complaining about our style not being aggressive enough but everyone now is copying us. Even Udineze played today like we used to play. BTW thrilosmtl, we've got a double rivalry going here. I have been a Pao and a Dolphins fan for years :box: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 dont talk about football after thge 48-10 loss the bills lost this weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfish Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 ha ha, the dolphins lost 22-0! I don't watch it as much any more. Good luck tomorrow at Rosenborg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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