Ziaka Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 New rumors floatring in Thessaloniki press is that PAE PAOK is prepared make a formal proposal to vasilis Tsiartas, who is currently without a team. Here is a related story from Metrosport.gr: http://www.metrosport.gr/modules.php?name=FirstPageNews&func=viewcurrent&varid=16454'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsos Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 I heard that he has already agreed to terms with OSFP for the January transfer period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 19, 2004 Author Share Posted October 19, 2004 Source? And don't tell me that one guy from the other site ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 From Supersport: http://www.supersport.gr/default.asp?aid=97963'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsos Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Source? And don't tell me that one guy from the other site ... Actually I couldn't remember where I heard it but now that you mentioned it........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 i hope he goes to u guys... u need a player like him and if he goes to the gey he wont b used as much as u guys would use him... for ur sake i hope u get him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batigol Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Tsiartas in a PAOK uniform eh? Well, I try and look at this from two perspectives. One: He will be a positive addition to the team. He has loads of skill and on a team with a serious lack of skill in his position, that could greatly benefit the club. His free kicks alone could be the difference for PAOK in many games (Anyone remembering Frantseskos?). Two: He will be a negative addition to the team because of his attitude. He might start bitching and moaning about pay, about the time he plays in the games, about the foreign coach, etc.. And these will invariably find their way into the psyche of the club. He has a history of this. So if PAOK do sign him and he starts to bitch about anything, let's not act surprised eh? Either way, I'd say PAOK should go for him. He could salvage the season to a certain degree and there is no telling how much some of the younger players could learn from him. FORZA PAOK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEK GIA PANTA Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 batigoal u make a good point about tsiartas moaning and groaning. the guy is a classic he wont go to paok for peanuts the guy will be after min 500,000 euro he puts his value very high and he wont play well until he gets it either. as for his talents no need to talk about those we all know what he can do when he turns it on from aek to euro to goal vs ukaraine. whether paok have so much money left over to sign him up is another question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 21, 2004 Author Share Posted October 21, 2004 I don't know how much the latest talk about Tsiartas is a press fabrication or if there is some truth in those headlines. Let's not forget that most of these news come from one source, and that is the newspaper/radio station Metrosport, and we know who runs that newspaper. If the interest by PAOK is true, I hope thay can work something out with Tsiartas. Tsiartas is proven player, which he demonstrates everywhere he plays. He will definitively help the team in a position where we desparately need help. Can you imagine Tsiartas feeding Salpiggidis his passes? It's player that we are missing right now. There is nobody helping our guys up front, and it reflects in the lack of scoring so far this season. Another positive would be that the fans would come back to Toumba to watch the games. After the latest failures in CL and UEFA Cup, lot of PAOK fans are dissapointed, and would probably be staying away from Toumba. Bringing Tsiartas would definitively energize the fans. Let me say that if Tsiartas comes, it would be a temporary solution. At the same time the team should be thinking about the future by integrating the young players into the team, and possibly look for other talent through trades. We have all heard about his character, but lets not forget that he played for AEK, which had major financial problems. He was just looking out for his interests, something that all players do. As long as PAOK is paying him his salary, I don't think there will be problems. In closing I think in getting Tsiartas, the positives would outweigh the negatives, and would be a good move by the team in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 From Metrosport: http://www.metrosport.gr/modules.php?name=FirstPageNews&func=viewcurrent&varid=16585'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 Some information is coming out. Apparently Giannis Goumenos will meet with Tsiartas next week. Tsiartas is demanding 1.5 year contract worth 1 millioin Euro. PAOK is willing to offer 450,000 Euro + CL bonuses + bonuses on how he performs. Finally, there is rumor that Iraklis will enter the bidding process for Tsiartas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batigol Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 Tsiartas is demanding 1.5 year contract worth 1 millioin Euro. Well I guess that pretty much precludes him from coming to PAOK then. If those are his demands, and we all know him to be pretty fickle about money, then it's case closed. Move on PAOK--clean house and let the young kids in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 25, 2004 Author Share Posted October 25, 2004 It's not going to be easy to clean house. Most of the players re-negotiated their contracts during the summer, and for PAOK to release them, they will need to pay up the rest of their contracts. It might be ok for players like Amaefule who don't make much, but how are you going to get rid of players like Giasemis, who makes over 150K and who extended his contract by two years. The only moves I see is letting players like Koutsis whose contract expires in December. As for Tsiartas, I begin to feel that this whole thing is a creation by media with the help of the player's manager. There is just no way that PAOK can pay that much money to Tsiartas. And if there was interest by PAE PAOK, they would ber doing it behind the scenes, and not through the sleazy Thessaloniki sports press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batigol Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 And if there was interest by PAE PAOK, they would ber doing it behind the scenes, and not through the sleazy Thessaloniki sports press.Ziaka, you said it all right there brother. Sleaze attracts sleaze. The ownership and the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 26, 2004 Author Share Posted October 26, 2004 Supposedly Goumenos is travelling to Athens to meet with Tsiartas. I hope na "min ine gia ta matia tou kosmou". I guess only time will tell ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 27, 2004 Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 The meeting with Tsiartas was supposedly postponed. Tsiartas on the other hand complained that there are financial figures published in the press depite the fact that he has yet to talk to anybody from PAE PAOK. He also said that he has other offers that he is thinking about. The more I hear, the more I believe that Tsiartas IS NOT coming to PAOK. Another Saloniki press headline is that PAOK will go for Gekas from Kallithea, and is also thinking about Nebegleras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 27, 2004 Author Share Posted October 27, 2004 Contra.gr is throwing out more names that interest PAOK: Ebede, Raguell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batigol Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 The circus continues it appears. Ziaka, any word as to when the meeting is being rescheduled for? As for these other names, I can't say I know much about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evergreen Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 Contra.gr is throwing out more names that interest PAOK: Ebede, Raguell Raguel?with pleasure, with pleasure :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 28, 2004 Author Share Posted October 28, 2004 You can keep him. I'll take Ebede though. Right now!!! No word on when Goumenos will meet with Tsiartas. I heard that Tsiartas will demand 400K up front in order to sign. Don't know if that's true, or more press fabrication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziaka Posted October 29, 2004 Author Share Posted October 29, 2004 Supposedly Goumenos will meet tsiartas this weekend. tsiartas will be in the Thessaloniki area attending some kind of a function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batigol Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Looks like Tsiartas is on his way to Germany. Auf Wiedersehn Herr Tsiartas!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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