HOLLYWOOD Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 UEFA Club Rankings 2004 Updated Friday 27th February 1 Real Madrid Esp 36.285 31.305 38.428 29.750 16.593152.363 2 FC Barcelona Esp 37.285 27.305 30.428 33.750 13.593 142.363 3 Valencia Esp 33.285 36.305 21.428 29.750 13.593 134.363 4 Manchester United Eng 28.250 25.083 30.785 28.333 14.937 127.389 5 Bayern München Ger 29.535 35.531 29.750 7.571 11.285 113.673 6 Arsenal Eng 31.250 26.083 17.785 19.333 13.937 108.389 7 Deportivo La Coruña Esp 20.285 27.305 24.428 21.750 14.593 108.363 8 AC Milan Ita 12.000 19.906 25.285 33.964 12.562 103.718 9 Liverpool Eng 7.250 30.083 24.785 22.333 11.937 96.389 10 Juventus Ita 17.000 10.906 20.285 31.964 13.562 93.718 11 FC Porto Por 20.916 16.062 15.687 26.375 14.500 93.541 12 Lazio Roma Ita 28.000 18.906 11.285 25.964 8.562 92.718 13 Internazionale Ita 6.000 14.906 23.285 30.964 11.562 86.718 14 AS Roma Ita 16.000 17.906 20.285 19.964 9.562 83.718 15 Leeds United Eng 25.250 27.083 13.785 13.333 3.937 83.389 16 Celta de Vigo Esp 21.285 22.305 11.428 14.750 12.593 82.363 17 Galatasaray Tur 26.875 20.875 15.812 6.333 9.916 79.812 18 AC Parma Ita 19.000 15.906 17.285 12.964 10.562 75.718 19 Borussia Dortmund Ger 14.535 5.531 27.750 19.571 7.285 74.673 20 Olympique Lyon Fra 15.142 17.750 13.562 11.958 13.964 72.377 21 Panathinaikos Gre 9.708 12.375 23.625 18.583 7.083 71.374 22 Bayer Leverkusen Ger 14.535 12.531 29.750 11.571 2.285 70.673 23 Feyenoord Ned 17.125 12.041 26.083 8.083 7.125 70.457 24 Chelsea Eng 26.250 9.083 10.785 7.333 15.937 69.389 25 Real Mallorca Esp 23.285 8.305 14.428 7.750 13.593 67.363 26 Girondins Bordeaux Fra 17.142 13.750 11.562 12.958 10.964 66.377 27 Hertha BSC Ger 14.535 13.531 15.750 16.571 3.285 63.673 28 PSV Eindhoven Ned 7.125 17.041 19.083 9.083 11.125 63.457 29 CD Alavés Esp 9.285 29.305 7.428 12.750 4.593 63.363 30 Celtic Sco 6.562 5.812 12.312 24.687 11.062 60.437 31 Sparta Praha Cze 18.000 6.000 15.750 9.100 11.437 60.287 32 Newcastle United Eng 15.250 7.083 5.785 17.333 12.937 58.389 33 AEK Athens Gre 9.708 11.375 15.625 15.583 5.083 57.374 34 Boavista Por 7.916 8.062 15.687 20.375 3.500 55.541 35 FC Nantes Fra 14.142 18.750 14.562 3.958 3.964 55.377 36 Slavia Praha Cze 17.000 13.000 3.750 12.100 9.437 55.287 37 VfB Stuttgart Ger 5.535 13.531 6.750 17.571 11.285 54.673 38 Anderlecht Bel 7.625 16.500 6.937 14.437 8.812 54.312 39 Ajax Ned 9.125 8.041 10.083 19.083 7.125 53.457 40 Málaga CF Esp 9.285 8.305 7.428 23.750 4.593 53.363 41 Rayo Vallecano Esp 9.285 23.305 7.428 7.750 4.593 52.363 42 Paris Saint-Germain Fra 5.142 16.750 11.562 13.958 3.964 51.377 43 RC Lens Fra 21.142 4.750 3.562 12.958 7.964 50.377 44 Fiorentina Ita 20.000 5.906 12.285 7.964 3.562 49.718 45 Atlético Madrid Esp 20.285 8.305 7.428 7.750 4.593 48.363 46 Udinese Ita 17.000 10.906 6.285 7.964 5.562 47.718 47 1.FC Kaiserslautern Ger 13.535 20.531 6.750 4.571 2.285 47.673 48 Glasgow Rangers Sco 10.562 11.812 12.312 5.687 7.062 47.437 49 AS Monaco Fra 16.142 10.750 3.562 3.958 12.964 47.377 50 PAOK Thessaloniki Gre 8.708 8.375 13.625 10.583 6.083 47.374 51 Real Betis Esp 9.285 8.305 7.428 17.750 4.593 47.363 52 Club Brugge Bel 3.625 11.500 11.937 8.437 11.812 47.312 53 Olympiakos Piraeus Gre 10.708 11.375 10.625 7.583 6.083 46.374 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batigol Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Bravo!!! Pana is 21st in all of Europe. Wow. What's even more surprising is that AEK is as high as they are given what has happened the last 2 seasons or so. And PAOK in 50th, just ahead of Oly...pretty cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted February 28, 2004 Author Share Posted February 28, 2004 i dnt think these rankings r accurate to b honest i mean look at leeds!!!! 15 Leeds United Eng 25.250 27.083 13.785 13.333 3.937 83.389 :blink: But these rankings count for the last 5 years till this point so its does make sense that olymp r all da way down down down to pussy town :P...... these r the official rankings of 2004 jst got em yesterday.... What do u guys think??? 21 Panathinaikos Gre 9.708 12.375 23.625 18.583 7.083 71.374 :nw: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 i dont think these are correspondent with todays stats how is real vallecano in the top 50 when they are in the 2nd division today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihio10 Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 I might be able to answer that. The UEFA Club Rankings rates each club for how they played from the past five years. In 2001, Rayo Vallecano made it to the UEFA Cup Quarter Finals where they lost to Alaves of Spain. The other numbers they have are low, but that season brought them up to the top 50. I am very proud of Panathinaikos staying in the top 25 mark. :nw: :nw: They are above Bayer Leverkusen, Chelsea, PSV Eindhoven, and Celtic. This is a great accomplishment!!! :D :tup: What I'm shocked at is how low Olympiakos is. :blink: They are seven time Greek champions, so shouldn't they play the same as they play at home turf? Well from this chart, I guess not. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaniotis1 Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 UEFA Team Ranking 2005 00/01 01/02 02/03 03/04 04/05 rank05 1 Real Madrid Esp 31.305 38.428 29.750 16.593 116.077 2 FC Barcelona Esp 27.305 30.428 33.750 13.593 105.077 3 Valencia Esp 36.305 21.428 29.750 13.593 101.077 4 Manchester United Eng 25.083 30.785 28.333 14.937 99.139 5 AC Milan Ita 19.906 25.285 33.964 12.562 91.718 6 Liverpool Eng 30.083 24.785 22.333 11.937 89.139 7 Deportivo La Coruña Esp 27.305 24.428 21.750 14.593 88.077 8 Bayern München Ger 35.531 29.750 7.571 11.285 84.137 9 Internazionale Ita 14.906 23.285 30.964 11.562 80.718 10 Arsenal Eng 26.083 17.785 19.333 13.937 77.139 11 Juventus Ita 10.906 20.285 31.964 13.562 76.718 12 FC Porto Por 16.062 15.687 26.375 14.500 72.625 13 AS Roma Ita 17.906 20.285 19.964 9.562 67.718 14 Lazio Roma Ita 18.906 11.285 25.964 8.562 64.718 15 Panathinaikos Gre 12.375 23.625 18.583 7.083 61.666 16 Celta de Vigo Esp 22.305 11.428 14.750 12.593 61.077 17 Borussia Dortmund Ger 5.531 27.750 19.571 7.285 60.137 18 Leeds United Eng 27.083 13.785 13.333 3.937 58.139 19 Olympique Lyon Fra 17.750 13.562 11.958 13.964 57.234 20 AC Parma Ita 15.906 17.285 12.964 10.562 56.718 21 PSV Eindhoven Ned 17.041 19.083 9.083 11.125 56.332 22 Bayer Leverkusen Ger 12.531 29.750 11.571 2.285 56.137 23 CD Alavés Esp 29.305 7.428 12.750 4.593 54.077 24 Celtic Sco 5.812 12.312 24.687 11.062 53.875 25 Feyenoord Ned 12.041 26.083 8.083 7.125 53.332 26 Galatasaray Tur 20.875 15.812 6.333 9.916 52.937 27 Girondins Bordeaux Fra 13.750 11.562 12.958 10.964 49.234 28 VfB Stuttgart Ger 13.531 6.750 17.571 11.285 49.137 Hertha BSC Ger 13.531 15.750 16.571 3.285 49.137 30 AEK Athens Gre 11.375 15.625 15.583 5.083 47.666 31 Boavista Por 8.062 15.687 20.375 3.500 47.625 32 Anderlecht Bel 16.500 6.937 14.437 8.812 46.687 33 Paris Saint-Germain Fra 16.750 11.562 13.958 3.964 46.234 34 Ajax Ned 8.041 10.083 19.083 7.125 44.332 35 Real Mallorca Esp 8.305 14.428 7.750 13.593 44.077 Málaga CF Esp 8.305 7.428 23.750 4.593 44.077 37 Club Brugge Bel 11.500 11.937 8.437 11.812 43.687 38 Chelsea Eng 9.083 10.785 7.333 15.937 43.139 Newcastle United Eng 7.083 5.785 17.333 12.937 43.139 40 Rayo Vallecano Esp 23.305 7.428 7.750 4.593 43.077 41 Sparta Praha Cze 6.000 15.750 9.100 11.437 42.287 42 FC Nantes Fra 18.750 14.562 3.958 3.964 41.234 43 PAOK Thessaloniki Gre 8.375 13.625 10.583 6.083 38.666 44 Slavia Praha Cze 13.000 3.750 12.100 9.437 38.287 45 Real Betis Esp 8.305 7.428 17.750 4.593 38.077 46 Lokomotiv Moscow Rus 9.916 7.166 8.812 11.687 37.583 47 Schalke '04 Ger 5.531 11.750 12.571 7.285 37.137 48 Glasgow Rangers Sco 11.812 12.312 5.687 7.062 36.875 49 Real Sociedad Esp 8.305 7.428 7.750 12.593 36.077 50 Olympiakos Piraeus Gre 11.375 10.625 7.583 6.083 35.666 These are more accurate cause a lot of things have changed since 99. It's the last 4 years of european play including this year. Plus it makes us look better. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakos13 Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 where is your source for this hollywood? its not on uefa.com, and i find it very hard to beleive Oly is in 53. Ok i hate them but hey got just as many points in the CL as PAO, and have won 7 straight <_< ...... while PAOK makes it 1 round in UEFA and finishes 4th every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihio10 Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 These UEFA Team rankings for 2004 are from this website: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/trank04.html And I agree with you drakos13, Olympiakos should be a lot higher, even though I'm not a big fan for them. :not: I think they should be up to at least the top 30 with Hertha and Bordeaux. As for PAOK, I think they should be in that position. :D They do make the UEFA Cup quite often. :la: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evergreen Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 For a teak to be higher on the table they need to win games and qualify for next phases. If a team doesn't participate it only gets the country start up numbers. ie Panionios would get about 3,000 points if they dont play in europe as would every greek team. teams from other countires with more success get a highter number of points automatically. after that you have to get results to climb up the ladder and not lose your games 7-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted March 1, 2004 Author Share Posted March 1, 2004 I got the info from the same place as tihio10 mentioned b4... http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/trank04.html :not: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 After 7 nil thrashing against Juve reserves, Olympiakos doesn't deserve to be ranked in uefa. Champions of greek stimeno prothlima and rejects of europe!!!! Kokkalis should rename karaiskaki stadium THIRA 7 MHDEN STADIUM OF XESFTILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 I doubt these are accurate how is OSFP lower then paok> I mean if its for the last 5 years then we made it to the 8 in the C.L in 99 and always in the Groups Paok they never made it past the 32 of uefa and that was 3 of the last 5 years and since when is Rayo Valeccano going to the final 8 of the uefa better then going to the 8 of C.L and also did u notice the top 3 teams are spanish? im sorry to say but dont look too much into this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 and I checked uefa.com all over I didnt see these ranking which leads me to believe that the people that created these rankins are missing a few screws in their brains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaniotis1 Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 These are the rankings uefa uses to determine how many teams each country gets in europe and the seeds for the tournaments also. These are 100% legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihio10 Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 I agree with Panatha1. :) These rankings do look legit. And about the three Spanish teams thrillosmtl, check this site out: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/trank03.html This is the same site but with the rankings from 2003. Notice that Manchester United is 3rd. :la: I believe that these rankings don't favour other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaniotis1 Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 Real madrid is first and nobody disagrees with that. Barcelona is second cause they won 11 games in a row last year in the champions league and the previous year reached the semi's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 again what has Rayo Vallecano done that is more important the OSF'S success ? Celta ? their 1st ever appearance in the C.L this year ? higher then OSFP? mallorca alaves? Betis ? udinese? come on. I know OSFP sucks in euro but the above teams lets be serious. cannot be that better then OSFP. and y isnt this anywhere on uefa.com? I dont believe in these stats!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 and in 99-00 , real madrid won the C.L yet their PCT is lower then that of Barcelona who lost in the semis! what else do they include ? goals for against ? what thats more important the winning the C.L? These start are very misleading and not accurate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaniotis1 Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 again what has Rayo Vallecano done that is more important the OSF'S success ? Celta ? their 1st ever appearance in the C.L this year ? higher then OSFP? mallorca alaves? Betis ? udinese? come on. I know OSFP sucks in euro but the above teams lets be serious. cannot be that better then OSFP. and y isnt this anywhere on uefa.com? I dont believe in these stats!! Celta did something this year that Oly hasen't done in 5 or 6 years and that is make it to the second round of the champions league, and they beat out ajax and brugge to get there. Alaves is there cause they reached the uefa cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_Thrillos Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 how do u highlight the text from a previous reply put it in a new box and post it on your replies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaniotis1 Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 press the quote button above the message you would like to quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pao123 Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 this is all of european history to this date...i dunno about the other teams but just cause they are not doing too well now...Udinese and alaves have had alot of european success in the past...even afew years ago...alavews made the uefa cup finals...they used to be a force in spain and eurpoe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaniotis1 Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 These can't be wrong because this is all based on factual information. Wins Losses Ties strength of opposition, number of rounds passed,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panos13 Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 thrilosmtl: "mallorca alaves? Betis ? udinese? come on. I know OSFP sucks in euro but the above teams lets be serious. cannot be that better then OSFP." :lol: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, tell us you are joking now. I am bursting with laughter :lol: I don't think I can stop myself :lol: After your history of the last 7 years in European football, not to mention your terrible European record before that, you have the nerve to make that statement? All those teams are better than Oly, and I am prepared to bet that they would beat Oly on aggregate. In case you have forgotten Oly have lost to lesser teams like Herenveen. :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elastonpappou 13 Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Really, I think that Thrynos should have been even lower than it is now... Not that I am a fanatic against them but it is the truth.... Although I cant see how the worse team in Europe EVER (PAOK) can be in the first 50 teams. They should have been even lower that Thrynos and they are clearly the biggest disgrace of Greek football!!! I think the worst senario would be for PAOK to be in the CL this year!!! This would be a disaster for Greek football and the rankings!!! They are incapable of beating any team in Europe,,, Actually I prefer the LAMOIA Egaleo to enter the Cl.... But again even if PAOK manages to get the 3rd place, there is a qualifying round which they need to get through and I seriously doubt if they can do it regardless the opponent team..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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