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Gazetta with more logic than the coach. Retsos at lb lol let's put Tsiolis as st and Tzavellas at am, fortou as rb, Mitro as dm and bakasetas as cb, Toro in goal and socs and mano on the wings. What an imbecile this coach is honest to God. And if this is the EPO telling him what to do, or the powers that be... I'd quit instantly. Rather quit that look like a clueless knob.

This donkey better be gone before qualifiers or we're gonna see a bigger debauchery than we saw after the world cup.

Skibbe is lost in space guys. My substitutions in fifa 18 make more sense than what he does with the nt. This could write a book on how NOT to make subs during a game. I'm surprised he didn't sub in our defensive juggernaut Tsiolis today lol that must be why we conceded ? he won't get fired cause the EPO is as retarded as he is. This team seems like they don't give a f cause they prob all realize this coach is handing out white face paint, red noses and big shoes before each game.

Hey guys Been awhile lol my mind, body and soul needed a break after the debacle of the playoff round. Of course this f-tard of a coach continues to boggle all of our minds lol what f-ing reason, in friendlies, do we need the 2 headed pylon Tsios#hit and s#itvellas called up. No need whatsoever. This guy is seriously more out of his mind than rehaggle at the end of the world cup in 2010. Jeeeeeezzz, we might as well all put our resumes in with EPO the way things are going. He couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag. Sir we're down on aggregate, I suggest we go all out offense... Nope, we're gonna play good d. He's like Austin powers playing blackjack in the 1st movie when he stays at 6 or wtv and doesn't hit. And the EPO is like Dr evil for fuk sakes "why make billions, when u can make... Millions? "why win games and make more money, when we could be mediocre and not ever make a tournament. Logic 101.

Until we have logical player selections, line ups and formations, we aren't going to have a clear idea of our teams potential.

If they bring Skibbe back, then we might as well start handing out red noses and big shoes at each game, cause garden brothers is gonna have nothing on the clownary we're gonna be set to see. This guy isn't going to magically wake up and start making the right decision.

Absolutely! But it would also depend on the new coach calling him back, but I think he definitely will. As for his age, I've read a lot about him and his off season training and regimen. He takes his body and his fitness very seriously, more serious than these other makakas who hit 34. I think holebas will still have a lot to offer as long as he's healthy.

Clutch decisions?? He can't even make competent decisions to suit the circumstances, it's just mind boggling how this coach operates.

Toro Manolas soks Retsos Zeca tach Laz staf Fortou Mitro This line up would have made for easy adjustments in either direction off/def as well. Staf could drop back into lb and Retsos dm or off for a true winger. Tach could come off for pelkas and let Zeca and the cbs handle the back. Man, even with his stupid call ups, we still had options and potential. So aggravating.

Hasi was a knob for sending Gianniotas on loan. Sending him in loan last year was stupid too, he killed it in cyrprus. There were rumours when Hasi got sacked, that they wanted to call him back from loan. Personally I like him, he's quick, he hustles, decent dribbling, obv needs to take more of a look coming into the box off the wing. But he's got alot of upside. I think we have alot of potential here guys, we all seem to realize that would could have a very dangerous team. The problem is the guys in charge are all wearing blindfolds and or being corrupt running this team

Man I actually read that as in resignation first, got excited for a sec. Massive mistake if they resign him!!! We need to start blowing up the nt twitter feed and the insta page with #fireskibbe or something like that. We had nothing to lose on Sun and still he didn't go after it! Like when 911 happened and they told Bush, and he sat staring blankly for a few mins, that's Skibbe "sir, we're still tied, we need to go full attack here" *crickets*. When you're the coach and you can't figure out that Tziolis is killing the mid, you shouldn't be a coach.

Exactly! Contradicted himself. He's an idiot, he was just talking circles trying to sound intelligent like there's a plan. It was all talking points and nonsense

F*** this coach, he's so beyond competence it's not even funny anymore. Now he's making up excuses for why pylons like Tsiolis were in every game. He has no clue what he's doing and today sealed it. Today was literally do or die and he still had 3 DM's on the field. Of course the players are gonna say that. They're professionals lol they're not gonna say "f this guy, bring in someone else". You could see the frustration of our talented players today, and that stems from who they're playing with and that's on the coach. If he played this line up on thurs, we definitely wouldn't have lost like that. Today's line up would have been considered defensive minded, the line up on Thurs was an utter ma!akia

What an absolute joke, I can't believe what I just watched. I'm more livid at this than I was last game. Like, this is literally something out of a family guy episode cause it's so ridiculous

Fire this ass clown right f-ing now! Gianniotas is out there turning Croatians inside out and you're telling me he couldn't have helped us against Bosnia and Belgium??? Nevermind that, he makes 3 subs and doesn't take off even 1 defensive midfielder??? And he takes off f-ing Laz....ya,god forbid we have 2 wingers on at the same time, then we might cause the Croatians some real headaches and actually make them defend.

There's too much running to the side when there's space to go forward. Bakashitas us a moron, he had so much room to walk in more. Tsiolis murdering our midfield again, waits till he's forced to one side by defenders before he makes a completely telegraphed pass

Thanks for the translation, much appreciated.

Totally agree, I'm nervously waiting to see the line up he fields tomorrow lol @Rockafeller Skank sorry, I can't read Greek to save my life lol I'm gonna get one of my buddies to read it for me. But honestly, we have to look forward. It's been frustrating, hopefully better days are on the horizon.

Tactician??? I wouldn't trust this guy to pick his nose at this point lol Throwing a bunch of defensive minded guys on the field isn't tactical. It would be like saying Otto was tactical when he tossed on 8 defensive players against Argentina. Ill toss out some things and you guys tell me if these seem like the ideas of a coach with great sense and tactics. Maniatis: doesn't play for his club much. Isn't in game form. Has played almost exclusively as cdm because his crossing and dribbling aren't very good, but he works hard. But Skibbe thinks its a good idea to toss him at rb to protect the flank... Tsiolis: plays in SA cause he stinks and no one wants him (not like Fetfa who went cause they pay him a s#!t ton). Doesn't play consistently, so isn't in form. Can't make that critical pass. Plays in 1 of the most critical positions for us for possession and distribution yet fails miserably consistently at both. Tzavellas: plays as a cb for a mid table team. Consistently stifles our left side on offense by offering little support on the attack, always looks to pass back when he has room going forward. Stinks defensively as well. Aside from that goal against Bosnia (embarrassing that we were even losing to them) has shown me nothing that he has cemented that position. Stafylidis: I don't mind him, but he's not playing for his club right now, so to ask him to play LW and track back and forth to cover numbnuts Tzavellas is insane. He's obviously not in game shape, so of course he's gonna look like s%$#! and make mental errors doing that much running. And let's not forget this same stupid coach played staf as a cm lol Samaris: again, I like him, but he's not playing much either, so to start him at cdm in this game was always going to be tough. That game against Belgium away, anyone could see that Tachtsidis was gonna eat a 2nd yellow, especially once we were up and you knew we'd have to really tighten up. He should have been subbed off... But nope, too logical, I guess God's gift to our nt bakashitas wasn't wormed up yet lol K let's look at the beginning of the 2nd half. It definitely made sense to remove maniatis, but if Retsos was the replacement, then he should have just started cause that was a f-ing colossal waste of a sub. But ok, maybe he's thinking we hold them, maybe get a lucky corner and pull one back. But then we go down 4-1 and he's picking butterflies on the bench for what seemed like another 15-20 mins before he was forced into a sub cause Samaris went down. And instead of bringing on a winger to inject some speed down the side, on comes Tachtsidis to continue with the failed formation and tactics. We don't just sit and whine about him when we lose and praise him when we win. We praised him early in the campaign cause he seemed very competent. But he doesn't seem competent now and hasn't for a while. Maniatis off, Zeca to rb and laz on to rm should have been the first move to start 2nd half. See how that went for a few mins, then make the next sub accordingly. Samaris off for pelkas could have been next and play an upside down triangle 1cdm Tsiolis and 2 am pelkas and Fortounis behind Mitro. And then depending on the situation when staf needs to come off, either Retsos on (Retsos to rb and Zeca to lm or laz to lm and Zeca to rm) or Gianniotas on.

Lol omg! It was actually patza in for karagounis lol I actually called it too. I told my buddy "watch, he's gonna bring in patza to defend the lead we don't have" Otto had lost his mind by the world cup I think lol he actually started vyntra and avraam at cb instead of moras and kyriakos cause he was pissed kyriakos didn't wanna play sweeper. Then karagounis apparently snapped at Otto during halftime, so he subbed him off too

Knowing this goofy coach, we'll go up 1-0 and he'll seal it up and protect the 1 goal lead even though we need 3.

This coach is a f#*king goof, I've been saying it for a few months now. That line up we started against cro didn't surprise me at all, cause we knew he was gonna play chicken s#!t soccer against them. But his subs when we were down 3-1 just floored me. "maniatis off, Retsos on" why? To defend the lead we don't have? Might as well have put Zeca at rb and put Laz or Gianniotas on. Then Samaris goes down, and instead of putting Zeca THERE... Nope bring on another defender. And bakasetas?? Might as well bring on vryzas or kapetanos. That line up nullified our wing play completely, we had nothing down the right side, and barely anything on the left cause he had stafylidis doing double duty. There wasn't a single momentum shift all game. Croatia never had to worry and really track back, cause we would take the ball from themand hand it right back. Mitroglou and Fortounis were literally left out to dry, with no one to support them and make runs and help create space... You know, logical normal things that happen during a soccer match in order to create chances. Honestly it's almost better we don't make the world cup, cause can you imagine seeing theses bone headed line ups on the world stage?? I'd lose my f&#king mind!

I don't care that Tziolis scored the winner, he is still absolute garbage. That literally could have been anyone scoring that goal with a header like that, it just happened to be him, right place right time. He honestly botched more than a few passes sending long balls f-ing no one or passing it too short (unless I missed something and Casper is on our team making runs down the sideline). Tzavellas is a ma!a!ka literally played the guy onside on their goal, so damn usuless. We got very lucky, because if their defender doesn't give that ball away to mandalos (mandalos made that intercept, but mitroglou made that goal happen) we may not of won it, we botched chances galore. But we only got some of those chances cause they were losing and had to open up. There is no f-ing way that there isnt one Greek cdm on this entire planet that can be better than Tziolis. Fetfa went to Dubai for money, this a-hole Tziolis went there cause no one wants him. He should be handing out red noses and balloons and that's about it. If the EPO is actually behind these call ups and player selections, than they can f right off too, scum bag pos'.

Guys, I just realized something. Oly used to use Toro as a center mid off and on back before 2011, maybe that could be on option too. I haven't seen much of bakakis, but his crossing looks like it needs work (might have just been having an off day tho) but he works hard and handles the ball well enough.

Hahaha "I'll have my gyros with mayo subsauce and jalapeno" Hahaha imagine he put him there and he just snipes bar down with an absolute rocket ?