Boxou
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yeah i've been reading his grandfather is of greek origin. we already have fortounis and mantalos there but either way he will be a welcome addition. although he will not debut as obvious in this campaign, but we might see him in the playoffs if we get there.
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1 minute ago, Rockafeller Skank said:
Then how does that mske it hard for Belgium. Brah they both start with B and u confused :p
yeh i wanted to type bosnia, not belgium
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1 minute ago, Rockafeller Skank said:
He will what? If he misses match bosnia has no high class service for Dzeko and Ibisevic.
δεν θα παίξει ο πιάνιτς, αυτό εννοώ.
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7 hours ago, Ellada2004 said:
What happened, Pjanic will miss match vs Belgium? That's huge, if so Belgium will win by convincing fashion.
he will, another evidence of how difficult it's going to be for bosnia.
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overall ok a bit better than i thought, obviously it's not possible to kick out the likes of tziolis. maniatis and tzavellas and replace them with charisis and mpakakis yet. probably after this campaign it is going to happen. karelis didn't make it, with him in instead of diamantakos i think the offensive line up would be decent for the moment.
siovas is getting mislooked because of the depth in cb position. no vlachodimos yet.
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pjanic is out for bosnia for their last 2 games..
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3 hours ago, J1078 said:
I've said this from the begnging the Cyprus game really worries me and I'm not so sure Belgium will beat Bosnia... I'm glad I get to watch the Belgium game first and i pray they win or at worst draw. I'm nervous as F*** against Cyprus and I see a draw happening..
what makes you think we'll draw cyprus if bosnia has not beaten belgium previously?
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yeah but taking a look at the results we need to go our way there's nothing extraordinary there as it's been already mentioned. i always take for granted that belgium will not lose to bosnia and of course we'll beat both cyprus and gibraltar;
only 2 groups have a guaranteed participant in the playoffs, everyone else is still pretty much alive.
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If Mitroglou is not ready then Donis will play up front with Stafylidis playing on the wing. That's what Skibbe has been doing all the campaign long. In fact I don't remember if Gianniotas has played any single game so far, I don't see why he would start in such a game (possibly the most important of the campaign for us since Bosnia-Belgium game will be already finished and we'll know whether we're second with a win or we should expect Estonia to hold Bosnia on the last game)
Obviously it's not so easy to throw out the likes of Tzavellas and Tziolis out of the NT since it's them who have been 'vital' members in this qualification round. But regardless of us making it to the WC or not I'm almost sure those 2 along with Maniatis are done with the NT. And going to Euros 2020 I hope to see more strikers/offensive players cracking into the team to finally get rid of 2nd league dudes.
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That's true, Skibbe's decision to start Tzavellas over Holebas cost us the latter's retirement. In other words he favors a left back who's playing in a mid-table side in Turkey over someone who starts for a English PL club. Bravo.
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But why to put Pelkas on the wings when there are Donis, Lazaros and under circumstances even Stafylidis there? And I just forgot injured Karelis. All would do far better than him. Heck Skibbe seems to favor Gianniotas and Mpakasetas more than him.
His natural position is #10 and he has no place as far as Mantalos and Fortounis are around. At the moment he's nothing more than an extra solution.
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There are Fortounis and Mantalos in front of Pelkas so there's no room for him. If you get him to play in the wing we'll have people rightfully pointing out he's useless like was the case with Mantalos.
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Oikonomou is injured, he hasn't been playing with SPAL lately so I don't see him being available to play. He is off for quite a while now so yeah Siovas is likely to replace them. I would also take Vlachodimos instead of Kiriakidis and Anestis. As I've said previously he's finalizing his deal with Benfica.
Other than than I don't want any of Tziolis, Bouchalakis, Maniatis, Vellios, Diamantakos and even Lykogiannis and Siopis around at the moment. If I had to pick a squad that would be my pool of playersmost of the times.
Karnezis, Kapino, Vlachodimos
Sokratis, Manolas, Papadopoulos, Retsos, Siovas, Oikonomou
Stafylidis, Mpakakis, Torosidis, Tzavellas, Koutris
Samaris, Tachtsidis, Zeca, Kourmpelis, Galanopoulos, Charisis, Fortounis, Mantalos
Mitroglou, Karelis, Lazaros, Donis, Mpakasetas
But knowing that this is nowhere near to happen we'll see once again the likes I mentioned above like they're essential to manage to beat Cyprus and Gibraltar. I hope Tziolis and Maniatis are done after this campaign and Charisis with Galanopoulos to keep developing a they can make a move to Bundesliga or so. This way Skibbe will have no excuses playing a Saudi Arabia player like Tziolis or Maniatis instead of them. Same goes for Limnios and any other promising offensive player so we can STOP watching 2nd league players like Diamantakos, Vellios and Gianniotas having a guaranteed place to the team regardless of their (shitty) performance.
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a quality side like belgium has enough quality not to care about the location of the game..i can see them winning this game easier than people might think, sure bosnia will be motivated and belgium in theory will not be but the talent gap between the 2 sides is huge and at such times motivation πάει περίπατο..
for our game if mitroglou doesn't make the cut (i'm almost sure karelis won't, but mitroglou is still questionable) i think will play like that
karnezis, tzavellas, sokratis, manolas, torosidis, samaris, zeca, stafylidis, fortounis, lazaros, donis
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what the hell is going on with mitroglou..he has yet to play a game for marseille still injured (about 2 months). he is definitely not going to be on form for the cyprus game if he doesn't play next weekend too..same for karelis, he's still injured and i don't think he will even make the squad..
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yet another dnp for vellios, so far if i'm not mistaken he has played in only one official game and it was back in auguste for the english cup..since then he can't even make it to his team's bench..
and this guy has a place to the nt no matter what
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charisis is doing well with his team in belgium, currently their 3rd in the table..also i was reading that some clubs from bundesliga were after him, reportedly werder bremen and eindrecht..at the moment he would offer much more than some bouchalakis, siopis, maniatis and tziolis but we all know he's not going to make the cut..
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btw gianniotas scored again for valladolid in a cup game which his team won an progressed to the next round. as well as diamantakos for bochum with a penalty kick, although they're losing again and they're stuck in the middle of the table in germany's second league. just don't pick him again for the sake of god, both him and vellios.
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last time he played for the nt was in 2015, if anything he's not going to be there for the last set of games. limnios is already more useful.
fortounis-mantalos
lazaros-gianniotas-mpakasetas
mitroglou-karelis-donis
even if there's a chance he's getting called up, he will not drop anyone from the above out of the squad except of bakasetas who is not even a starter. i don't know why you complain.
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he's overweight and it's a shame he destroyed his career by moving to saudi arabia in such a young age..let him move to a proper european league and then we'll talk about him..
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karnezis, kapino, vlachodimos
sokratis, manolas, retsos, papadopoulos, oikonomou, siovas
torosidis, stafylidis, tzavellas, mpakakis
samaris, tziolis, tachtsidis, zeca, kourmpelis, galanopoulos, fortounis, mantalos
mitroglou, donis, karelis, lazaros, mpakasetas, gianniotas
the best possible one..
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the one that has to be capped is odysseas vlachodimos...the guy is moments before finalizing his deal with benfica and we have yet to cap him! he will stay in pao this season. it's scary that instead of him we see the likes of kyriakidis and anestis there..soon karnezis will retire, he's 33 atm and the only decent one is kapino (although he's much younger) but we don't have any other good prospect atm..remember when we lost lodygin to russia because santos couldn't sub him in in some freaking qualifier over a minnow...if we lose vlachodimos they should go and fcvk themselves...
btw there's a guy in alkmaar (chatzidiakos) who is 20 years old and was promoted to the first team recently. today he scored in a cup game. 'bad' thing he's a cb and we have a plethora of them..manolas, sokratis, papadopoulos, retsos, siovas, oikonomou are all playing in top-5 leagues. we should put some emphasis on producing offensive players some day, it's ridiculous to have such depth in defence (apart from cbs we also have torosidis, stafylidis, tzavellas and there are bakakis and katranis coming from behind..and it's even more ridiculous when your starting cdm is a naturalized greek, his partner is playing in saudi arabia and up front mitroglou's back ups are 2nd league players..thank god there are donis and karelis..
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let it be..belgium is simply a better team..they outclassed bosnia in the first round..i fail to see how a side which conceded 3 goals to cyprus is going to outscore a 5 times better team...
as for samaris, i think there's no room for discussion about whether he's the best option or not..he's the only guy playing abroad from our midfield pool (ok along with zeca) and he's playing in benfica, not in any random club..if anything he HAS to start..
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we can't play with 3 in the back if one of them is torosidis..in such a formation you need 3 cbs. also, again in such a formation you're going to use full backs, therefore donis can't play there. fortounis obviously can't play as a cdm, while putting 2 similar strikers like mitroglou and karelis will create more problems than opportunities.
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in other news the draw for the euro 2020 qualification campaign will be made in december 2nd, in dublin. let's hope we'll take part in one more draw in that time ..:)
didn't know where to post that