Nilaul
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6 hours ago, Athens4 said:
Should any of these stupid ideas come into effect then I cannot see the point in watching the Greek league anymore. Just have 16 teams with 30 games in total. It isn't rocket science.
Don't think that is a solution either, 16 teams, where only 5 are somewhat competitive and the rest is pure carbage filler content, which the only point of existence is too loose against the top 5. No one wants to watch these matches, they don't bring anything to the table and they ain't an attractive product, which means less money for the league.
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12 hours ago, PAOTHEGREAT said:
Olympiakos will reject this 100 percent....how are going to feel in 2 years time, when Olympiakos will go on a 10 years run? We all know this will be short lived, because they will eventually take over again. Unless of course PAOK starts making the CL regularly....but that's a long shot to happen. Not impossible but highly unlikely.
Olympiakos would reject this, because that would stop them from ever winning the league again. They would have to battle it out between teams that actually know how to play football. Olympiakos usually won the league in the past because they were the only team not too loose against smaller teams.
I think the idea of the playoff is alright, but AEKS idea is tragic. Odds teams playing against each other and even teams playings against each other between rounds is just stupid. It is entirely possible that one group will end up having exceptionally hard matches while the other has a walk in the park.
It would be better, simpler and more interesting to have 10 teams play each other 4 times or just have 14 teams playing against each other 3 times, a 3rd time on neutral ground, forgoing the need of playoffs. -
6 hours ago, PAOTHEGREAT said:
You're 100 percent correct....Greek soccer doesn't exist anymore....very very low. What they're hiding in Greece is the fact Basketball is by far the biggest sport in Greece. Go take a look on the websites where the tickets are sold....court site 400$, lower bowl 300 to 200$, and upper bowl 100 and 50$....games get sold out! Compare Greek soccer and they can't sell out with 10$ tickets! Look at the starting 5 of Olympiakos and PAO in basketball....the salary combined is 13 million. Let's talk TV revenues....Basketball always cashing in with European money....before the season starts in basketball they're raking in 20 million for TV....and I'm hearing another 20 million ticket revenue. Greek soccer is a souvlaki stand!
Having a competitive league would actually help. If a single team starts winning the league then its just going to go downhill. So Aek winning it last year was great, Paok this year would be even better. Fewer teams in the league would be better (fewer worthless fillar teams), VAR would help a bit with match-fixing and bad calls, and foreign refs brought in for potential suspect matches. Whatever it takes to make this league worth watching.
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23 hours ago, Bashibozuk said:
We may agree or disagree, but it is expected that we will try to use the same facts, language, syntax and logic.
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Despoina's statements may be or not be true. Nevertheless
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Whoever can read and understand either the Greek or the American language would understand that the assertion was “match bought by the government” not “match bought by PAO”.
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At that time many believed that the govenment of the colonels bought the match; the theory was that a victory would make them popular.
There was, though, a lesser sin (but impossible to refute) that took place that year:
When Everton came to Athens, the PAO fanatics were driving cars and motorcycles around the hotel where Everton stayed. The basic idea was to create such a bedlam that the Everton players would be unable to sleep.
Professional soccer is like a sausage. Wonderful while its components are not known.
I would like to point out that there's no such thing as American language, it is still called English.
Greek soccer is F***ed up, I think each club was involved in match-fixing at some point in their history. Olympiakos just did it best, but there isn't a single innocent team in Greece. I do think that match-fixing is slowly becoming a thing of the past. With the introduction of VAR, with the government and UEFA breathing down everyone throats. I do hope so atleast. -
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2 hours ago, jvc said:
Nothing is happening, the EPO is like any other Greek entity .... poor management. They update whenever they feel like it, change the mistakes after smoking a pack of cigarettes, and 20 coffees. Just like their TV programs, rarely up to date.
They did update it before, a few days ago it was showing the correct standings, now they changed it, also the rest is also all the other teams are in their correct place with the correct points; even the recent Panathinaikos point deduction has been accounted for. The website is definitely being updated. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
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Something is happening in EPO, the standings have changed. Notice how AEK and Paok have 28 games played, and there both on 64 points.
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Now that would be some spectacle. Far superior to not sending your team. And the reason is ....... it would be on the media all around the world.
Also it would give some experience to the young players.
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Hugh Dallas was brought in and people chased him out.
This can only really happen if there's an agency set up by the parliament, ignoring what FIFA says. Suppose there's a bigger chance while Syriza is at helm.
Does the Greek government has to review online petitions if they reach a certain threshold (aka what Britain and USA do) ?
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F*** the World Cup qualifiers, time to set up an anti corruption agency to clean Greek football. Hopefully filled by foreigners who have a good proven track record.
Let Fifa kick us out for two or four years. Its not like were going to qualify anyway, at-least we could ensure that future "real" talents will have an real opportunity to develop. Its not just the super league that's messed up, the whole system is kindly F***ed. Kids getting into bigger teams just because they know somebody. Olympiakos bribing refs is just an icing to the cake.
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This was depressing performance.
Olympiakos can't have referees doing favours in Greek league games (its obvious). A draw is a draw, a loose should be a loose. It just puts players in a really bad mindset; and the players and coach don't have opportunities to learn from their mistakes. What we end up is having a team with good players being lazied out by their own league. Our league is bad but it shouldn't be made worse. That one time Olympiakos should suffer to score a goal they should suffer. If they fail they should draw, and learn from it. When they do a defensive mistake; there shouldn't be a non existent offsite call from the side line ref. This would help Olympiakos in their European games.
Just a lacking perfomance. We all saw against Bayern at moments that Olympiakos knows how to play good football; this performance was far from that.
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Wow what an absolutely disgraceful win; the ref so obviously in our favor (perhaps even bribed). The s%$#! that Greek football has become. Sometimes its better to loose a game with dignity then win like that.
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The only way this league will get stronger is if they cut the number of teams by half and each team plays each other four times. Which results in more derbies; more attendance, more sponsors and more income from viewing rights. I don't think people want to watch Olympiacos vs Platanias, or Paok vs Kalloni. Frankly those matches are useless and arn't nothing but a formality.
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Is there any link to the game? Mine have all been trash today.
http://live.shwidget.com/static/freepopups/320730850385880.html
Watching the game, if PAOK were allowed 12 players on the pitch the score would still be the same. We are miles miles superior.
Then I suppose there was no point of scoring when 10 of their players were only playing and some of them where to busy looking at their injured player? Then that pissing celebration; fine I get it's a job and the player scored, but its not to be proud of and definitely shouldn't have been celebrated with a pissing dog celebration.
Paok is showing potential; statistics are equal (slightly in favour to favour to Paok though). Honestly; I just want to watch a good game.
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Scoring when a opponents player is legitimacy injured and lying is dishonarble and unfair. Especially for a team Like Olympiacos and that pissing dog celebration is immature, embarrassing and distasteful. Just makes me wanna vommit. 2nd goal was well deserved.
Interestting match though
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Has anyone in the league even contemplated the idea of each team playing each other 4 times?
Or were they all too interested in trying to figure out how to shove in playoffs and other weird ideas?
Another future issue, you somehow got to tell people to dump the laptops, pay for nova and watch the game. Rather than fight the trend, maybe its wiser to embrace it, and offer free streaming to digital devices worldwide, and just cash on the ad revenue, rather than the subscriptions that no one seemingly wants to buy,