Torontoblue

Its over for this campaign. No way we can beat Finland away. I'm sorry but it's the truth. This is not get a new coach and everything is fixed. Greece has never been a football power. We had a chance when we won the Euro 2004. But the money was never invested properly for the future. It was like winning 2004 was all of a sudden a band aid to cover everything bad up. All of sudden everyone was saying we will win the World cup??. Problem is we didn't qualify for 2006 and when we represented Europe at the confederations cup we stunk ?? that should have been a warning that we needed help. But we qualified for a few tournaments and nobody was worried. Now we missed out on the last 2 tournaments and for sure a 3rd. We are 52 in the world rankings. Next qualification we will be probably in pot 5. Do you think we will qualify then too? we can keep changing coaches and pretending everything is ok. But the truth is we are lacking in so many departments especially youth development . why do you think portugal is so good?

We won't beat Finland away. I don't understand how anyone can think that. It's a mess now. The game is like 10 weeks away. This European campaign is over. Be prepared to wait a long long time to ever qualify again. It's going to be Years to fix this mess. We are now 52 in FIFA rankings , 31 in European teams. We will end up probably in pot 5 for next qualification. Then what? Lol ? its a chain reaction will take years and years to fix. I don't think we will ever qualify again for at least another 20 yrs.

Your Dreaming if you think we will beat Finland away. Lol Our next game, Finland will put us to the sword and claim 2nd place. There's no hope for us now.

My wife is Portuguese. My father in law explained to me what happened to portugal. They never qualified. In World Cup 66 they finally made it and finished 3rd. Then they never qualified till Euro 84 and world cup 86. In soccer mad country they knew they had to change. So they fired everyone in the federation, invested heavily in training facilities state of the art. Hired the best youth coaches. Got a youth blueprint made up to follow. Also the teams improved their facilities because they new the only way to survive was to produce great young players and sell them. Win situation for them and also the national team. What it produced was youth under 20 World Cup winners in 89 and 91. Plus champions in all age groups. Since qualifying for Euro 96 they have only missed out on the world cup98. That's 11 tournaments qualified for. Well 10 because they were hosts in 04. They have gone to 3 finals winning 2, plus they were semifinalists 5 times in tournaments. This from a country of 11 million people and financial problems like Greece. And they look like qualifying for 2020. This is what Greece need to do. But won't happen. And it's not just portugal. Many countries have done it and its paying off. But there's to much corruption in Greece.

The money went into the fat cats pockets at the federation.

Lol ? welcome to the dark ages again. I know I have been there with this team. There is no way no we are qualifying. We are 5 pts behind Finland with a 6 goal average. Armenia is team we are supposed to get 6 pts from?? Wtf. The stadium was empty ??? our next game is away to Finland. They will put us to the sword. We are never going to catch 2nd place. We had a perfect opportunity in the nations cup to secure a playoff spot, from the 3rd division of Europe Former Euro champs and we couldn't do that. Lmfao?? some of you think we will qualify? Give me the drugs your on. I want to be in make believe land too. Lol ? the writing was on the wall when we didn't qualify for Germany as European champs. Then in 2016 even teams from the 3rd place qualified. We couldn't. Its over. We will not qualify again unless drastic house cleaning in the federation and money put in to youth development. It's over. Don't even try to believe we will qualify. Lol losing to Armenia. Who the F*** loses to Armenia ???

Please Canada is way better

We should have kept Santos. He just led portugal to another title. Portugal's 2nd. Portugal are the inaugural winners of the League of Nations cup. Bravo portugal bravo Santos. What could have been if you stayed in Greece.

Wow just saw that Turkey beat France ? Turkey has 9 pts from 3 games. Wow

Lol true ?

Fact is we dropped 5pts to Finland's 3. If you don't win against Armenia it's over. But I can't see us getting 2nd place. Finland is to strong. That's why the nations cup was our best shot. Look at portugal tomorrow they play in another tournament final. Look at us champs in 2004 and we never built on it. More like chumps. Laughing stock of Europe

How can you all be surprised by this result? Did you really think we would beat Italy? look at that pathetic attendance. Even they knew not to spend money on this s%$#!. Greece is in trouble of qualifying. Finland will grab 2nd. Mark my words. We don't have a team.

If Italy scores one more goal we drop to 4th and Bosnia moves to 3rd on goal difference. This gets funnier by the minute lol ?

3-0 the gates are opened lol

2-0. Told you guys it's going to be a blow out lol even the greeks in Greece have lost faith. 18,000 people in stadium?? Wtf lol

We need at least a draw. Finland won sending us to 3rd. Armenia also won. Making next game tricky. Why do I get the feeling we will get smashed by the Italians ?

So Gracenote released who will Qualify for this tournament. They crunched numbers, stats, players, stadiums etc etc. They have Greece not qualifying. They have the group as this Italy, Bosnia, Finland, Greece, Armenia , Litchenstein. Lol ? Fml. Is this a bad omen already ? Gracenote is a Nielsen company that provides in depth game stats for the NBA, NHL, NFL, MLB, and Soccer.

Putting a limit on foreign players is a start but not enough. The whole system in Greece has to change. Money has to be invested in everything at youth level. My wife is Portuguese. We go to Portugal a lot and I have seen first hand because of a relative of hers who is involved with the soccer federation. The youth system it's phenomenal. Just google portuguese youth teams from the U15 to U21 since the mid 80's and you will see what I mean. They are always qualifying and winning trophies at youth level or finishing 2nd place. And this has transferred over to the senior teams. Since 1996 they have only missed out in 1 tournament. The 98 WC. Greece should copy their blueprints.

Come on don't embarrass yourself lol England have done more than Greece. They are regular players on the big stage, usually going into the knockout rounds. There league is the one of the best if not the best. Even if they don't make another final they are always at the show and usually go deep. Sadly can't say that about Greece. ☹️

Actually doesn't work that way. Let's say that scenario came to be. First Greece wouldn't get because of being 3rd. But let's say Greece was 2nd in Nations league. If Finland qualifies their spot goes to best 2nd place Group C not 2nd place of the Finland group.

I agree if you had got group A I think we had a chance at 2nd. Let's not kid ourselves we are in a tough group. Italy, Bosnia and Finland will give us a lot of trouble especially away from home. Throw in Armenia they won't be easy. We couldn't finish 1st in the nations league with such a easy group. I predict we will be 4th here. It will be Italy Bosnia Finland Greece Armenia and last Litchenstein.

This time around I'm just going to watch the qualifiers without any hope of qualifying. Like it was pre 2004. Last 14 yrs has been a rollar coaster ride. It will make life easier. Lol Italy will be first. No way they will screw up this one like they did 2018. After what I saw during the nations league no way we can beat Bosnia or Finland to 2nd place. Even Armenia away will give us trouble. Litechenstein is the only team we will beat twice. Here is the Kick in the teeth. If Finland finish 2nd and Qualify. Their playoff spot goes to Hungary. We couldn't even finish 2nd in that group for the safety blanket. How can we qualify from this??

Of course there is always a chance and hope in anything. I guess just keep believing.

Maybe I'm just pissed at how far this team has fallen. Champs in 2004 to chumps in 2018. Sad

I'm going to watch too. But reading the comments makes me laugh. We finish 3rd in the nations cup but now we will finish 2nd and qualify. Lol