J1078
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Yes Fetfa should play in Europe, but let's be realistic we have 3 guys on our team that don't even play for a club team and because Fetfa isn't playing in Europe all off a sudden he doesn't get called up? At least he's playing regularly.. where is the logic in that thinking? Fetfa,Ninis,Kone and yes even holebas should be on this team period.
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7 hours ago, ausgreek said:
Out of the question vs Belgium?
Karnezis
Toro (c) Manolas Sokratis (vc) Tzavellas
Petsos
Samaris
Gianniotas Fortounis Kone
Vellios
Karelis Mykonos Mantalos Fetfatzidis Who LW???
Bouchalakis Tachtsidis Maniatis
Stafylidis Oikonomou Koutroubis
Kapino Barkas
Even though he hasn't been great for us lateley Mitro has to start.. also Vellios is not good IMO.. I would love to see Kone have a shot and Fetfa on the bench as well as Ninis.. I don't think is would but Petsos in for this game either..
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I don't have any faith or confidence that Skibbe is even paying attention to Ninis.. He's do busy trying to come up with a plan on utilizing Tziolis instead..
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Who in there right mind thinks Greece is going to go into Belgium and get a point? Guys we are lucky to be in the position we are in right now so let's just be thankful because honestly we've played like s%$#! so far. We were lucky to get 2 points against Estonia who dominated us, we were also lucky to pull a rabbit out of our ass and get a point against Bosnia who outplayed us and got killed by Belgium.. Our focus going into Belgium is damage control and keep the goals against 3 or under because goal differential means a lot. Yes Belgium is at another level and no one from this group can compete with them. We have been getting very lucky getting points with the line up this coach continues to play especially with no threat coming off our bench. If we played in any other group there's no way we would be 3-1 right now. Not the way we've played. I still think Greece can be better and play better if we had the right player selections as starters and off the bench.. We have better option I don't understand for the life of me why we don't use them.
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3 hours ago, Rockafeller Skank said:
Im all in for Siopis joining the squad but honestly, we cant experiment against Belgium. Samaris Tachtsidis is the only option. I believe that with Maniatis not having a club at March( although i doubt he wont be added to a team in the January Transfers Period) Skibbe will try to set foot and take action. Hope the same thing happens with Tziolis.
Torosidis Manolas Sokratis Stafylidis show great composition, hell even Tzavellas shows he can play.
If we honestly try to take 1st spot against Belgium, we need solid defence and maybe get a draw or a miraculous , out of nowhere stolen win.
If we realisticly aim for 2nd spot, we need to concede few,so that we try to decrease the Goal Difference we ll have with Bosnia this way. Bosnia conceded 5. If we concede 0-2, Noone gives a f*ck if they even score 7-8 goals to Gibraltar. We are the last team Belgium plays, they ve already qualified to be honest, maybe their key players are bored of tryharding for an already-over campaign. This and Cyprus gifting us the away match, while making it hard (like they always do) to the bosnians, will be key factors to us stealing the spot.
Bro you need to stop assuming that Cyprus is going to gift us the final match we play them.. Be realistic they will be playing for pride as I'm sure they want to finish ahead of Estonia and have some kind of success as well in this campaign. Greece will need to earn every result the get bottom line. As far as the Belgium game is concerned the question isn't wether we will lose but rather by how much. I know you said it's not time for Skibbe to experiment in the Belgium game but my question is why not? We know the final match we play them.. Be realistic they will be playing for pride as I'm sure they want to finish ahead of Estonia and have some kind of success as well in this campaign. Greece will need to earn every result the get bottom line. As far as the Belgium game is concerned the question isn't wether we will lose but rather by how much. I know you said it's not time for Skibbe to experiment in the Belgium game but my question is why not? We knowwho are main starters are so I don't think it will be a downgrade if he experiments by adding Siopis in or removing a couple of our useless players. To be honest I think a line up change is required because if we go into Belgium with this line we are going to get absoloutley spanked.
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1 hour ago, jason said:
Belgium has not played one team so far with good defense including bosnia. If we had more attacking minded midfield we could have scored at least 2-3 against them... Belgians will have hardest test yet with us if we show up on D and mitro hits the net.
You do realize we've conceded a goal almost every game we've played since the end of the Euro campaign right? What makes you think our defense can hold off Belgium when Gibraltar even scored on us as well as many others.
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The only way Greece gets into a playoff is by hoping we tie Bosnia in Bosnia which will be difficult as they are a much much better team at home and by some miracle tying Belgium which is a pipe dream right now especially with the guys Skibbe continues to play. In reality even though Bosnia are 3 points behind us they have a better shot then us. They will beat Gibraltar and chances are we will lose against Belgium which means we will be going into Bosnia all tied in points. Very difficult task for this Greece team and the way they are playing to take second.
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I'm not liking Samaris to be honest, and I know we don't have options in that position. He has looked very average to below average, his mistakes are glaring and he doesn't control the ball with any pace or rhythm. I'm not to sure why we've all given him a free pass...
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Wtf has this turned into? Let's stick to soccer and leave the rest out of it. In every country you will find idiots that do stupid things so it's not right to condemn blame an entire country on a few idiots. In saying that lets stick to soccer. About the game I will say Bosnia out played us and we were lucky to get a tie and going forward if we play the way we did it will be difficult to come out of Bosnia with points. As far as us Playing Belgium there is no way I see us getting points as the Belgiums are in top forum and we are still scrambling. The big picture here is Tsavellas bailed out Greece because chances are we will be going into Bosnia tied in points as we will probably lose against the Belgiums and Bosnia will destroy Gibraltar.
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This was huge because chances we will be tied with Bosnia after the next match as they play Gibraltar and we play Belgium.
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I will take this result a run.. wow did not except that in Injury time... as bad as we've played we still live to fight another day. I'll give credit where credit is do and that was a rocket by Tzavellas..
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Omg Mitro One on one with goalie and can't score.
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Wtf did you guys think was going to happen when Estonia was all over of us? Because we beat Gibraltar,Estonia, and Cyprus? Come on this team is s%$#! and hasn't turned the corner from the Euros and Skibbe is the worst coach I've seen so far for this team.
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We suck boys...
Bosnia scores
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right we miss Holebas but you can think that idiot Skibbe for that.
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2 minutes ago, tantra129 said:
indeed .... skibbe is an idiot
everytime tzavellas touches the ball ....it becomes blue
Agree.. it's just a matter of time before Bosnia scores.. How easy do we give the ball away... No flow no pace no fluidity from our team at all.
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Wow the Bosnians are finding room Greece needs to tighten up bad. Dangerous foul for the Bosnians.
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how pathetic the stadium is no where near what it should be for suck a HUGE GAME. don't the Greeks care about the NT WTF?
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Στην θέση του Μίχαελ Σκίμπε μπήκαν οι αναγνώστες του Sport24.gr και επέλεξαν τους 11 που θέλουν να δουν στον αποψινό (21:45) αγώνα με την Βοσνία (21:45) στο γήπεδο "Γ. Καραϊσκάκης" για την 4η αγωνιστική των προκριματικών του Μουντιάλ.
Το σύστημα ήταν 4-2-3-1 και ο κόσμος διάλεξε εκείνους που επιθυμούν να βρίσκονται στο αρχικό σχήμα απέναντι στον Τζέκο, τον Πιάνιτς, τον Λούλιτς και την παρέα τους, με στόχο να έρθει το "4 στα 4" στον όμιλο και να αποσπαστεί έξι βαθμούς η γαλανόλευκη.
Στο τέρμα είναι ο Καρνέζης και στην άμυνα οι Τοροσίδης (δεξιά), Σταφυλίδης (αριστερα), Παπασταθόπουλος και Παπαδόπουλος. Οι Σάμαρης και Μανιάτης στον άξονα, ο Φορτούνης σε πιο ελεύθερο ρόλο μπροστά και οι Μάνταλος, Γιαννιώτας στις πτέρυγες. Στην κορυφή της επίθεσης ο Μήτρογλου δεν έχει ουσιαστικά αντίπαλο.
So it looks like Skibbe is going with 4-2-3-1
Karnezes
toro-----------kPaps-----------Sokrati--------Staf
Maniatis---------Samaris
Gainnatos-----------Fourtonis-------Mantolas
Mitro
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I agree there is no tomorrow for this team a loss against Bosnia and our W/c hopes are done. I have no confidence in Skibbe so I am really worried about this match. Karelis should not be playing on the wing. I think Skibbe is going to try and go all out defence in this one so don't except to see any flow and good ball movement from the NT at all. Bosnia is going to be attacking all night.
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We should definitely be the underdogs in this game. To be honest nobody including myself is expecting a win. Bosnia has great finishers and they don't usually have problems scoring goals. We have been outplayed and have given up grade A chances to teams like Estonia/Cyprus and even Gibraltar scored on us, and to be honest the only reason we ended up wining against Estonia is because they lack finishers. As much as it sucks to say this I think Bosnia will have no problem taking 3 points from us as they will dominate us from start to finish. I pray I'm wrong but I just don't see it unfolding any other way.
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Is the Greek media and reporters not questioning Skibbe's players choices or are they giving him a free pass? I wonder if the people in Greece are as upset as us with his selection of players. I'm so curious to know what the vibe down there is around the team and the coach. Any time I check out Greek sites I hear no complaints about Tziolis and player selections is it just us? Maybe if people cared more down there then Skibbe might feel the heat a little and start making better choices.
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I hope you're talking about Tzoilis, Maniatis, Tzav ? because if you're referring to Ninis, fetfa and Kone The other 2 especially have played a lot less.