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    AEK Transfer Talk

    in AEK FC

    Posted · Edited by CHE21QNS

    When a Brazilian goes back in the form of clubs like Botafogo, they are officially worn out. When a player has passed through India as well, they are officially wayy passed worn out. Wasn't a big enough fan of him at Arsenal to overlook his really poor resume. Other than his first club of three years, he hasn't stayed at a single club for more than 2 years. I think he's better suited for Olympiako as they love such mercenaries. 

     

    As for the Brazilians. The Brazilian market is overhyped, overcharging, and just like the rest of Latin America, lacking in quality the last few years. Soccer has been watered down to such a despicable business level that they might as well just rename their leagues to European Farm League, where Europeans come in , throw stupid cash at mediocre underdeveloped players and inflate the market. These players are nothing more than soulless farmed players who are a headache to acquire for a reasonable price as often time they are owned by 3 teams , 1 bank , and a shampoo company. Example: Diogo 

     

    As for Krislan and Lukas. Luka was probably the worst pick Milo has made thus far at AEK. There is no ###### way in hell that you dish out over a million euros for a small frame player with career ending injuries in BOTH legs. His recent season ending injury was just a big fat warning as to the trap we almost fell into. Can you imagine paying 1.5 mil for a player to get injured for the season AND have an existing history of serious injuries? You just bought a bag of s%$#!.

     

    As for Krislan, nice goals but nothing insane. Not worth the overinflated price tag im sure the 14 entities that own him will put on him. Also the quality of the defenses they play against is in question. I don't know if he would be able to adapt to a more physical style of play.

     

     

    Ahaha guys please read this piece of comedy i coincidentally ran into after my rant, taken directly from Santos' wikipedia page that sums up the tragic Brazilian transfer market lol :

     

    "In 2008, Santos moved to Corinthians, with Figueirense retaining 50% economic rights for the future transfer fee.[2] The deal was partially financed by DIS Esporte, to which Corinthians later sold 22.5% of the rights.[3][4]along with Dentinho and Renato, for R$ 5.4 million total fee.[5] Corinthians also sold 40% rights to Turbo Sports, for R$3.6 million[5] and after that partnered with the investor to sign Figueirense's remain 50% rights, making Corinthians own 37.5% of the players' rights after the deal.[6] However, Corinthians did not pay Turbo Sports for its portion of the transfer fee (from Fenerbah?e), after which the company sued Corinthians."

     

     

    What a headache  :lol: 

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    Jacob Johansson

    in AEK FC

    Posted · Edited by CHE21QNS

    Our midfield is STACKED for next season. Johanson, Simoes, Cordero , and Anakoglou ....Then we have Mantalo's return, Gronti who I don't know if there is room for, Barbosa who can also play in the midfield, and possibly a player like Scocco.....By far the best midfield in the SL the way things are shaping up. 

    Greek - Russian Relations

    in Let's talk about this

    Posted · Edited by CHE21QNS

    We do have industries. We make chemicals and buses for instance and even made cars in the past, that they are trying to bring back (Poni). Aside from corruption, I think the two biggest obstacles have been the way of life in Greece and Unions.

     

    By way of life I mean the way that cities like Athens have drained the general population. For decades thousands and thousands of Greeks have been flocking to Athens in an effort to get a public sector job and pretty much be set for life. This has drained the outer cities and industries. 

     

    Unions have held Greece back big time. Things like upgrading computer systems and making the entire system more efficient,  exposes some of their obsolete members and interferes with their interests. When government subsidies run out they cause even more damage to the economy. In general the unions in Greece have too much power and so they keep a lot of investors away. 

     

    I had a friend who worked for infoQuest a few years back. InfoQuest (if its still around) was a Greek IT computer hardware and software company. He told me that one day he walked into one of their storage facilities and in the facilities he witnessed thousands of square meters of broken and faulty computers. He asked one of his coworkers who had been working there longer what all these computers were. Basically they would get government subsidies/support, as well as investments from private entities, as well as public offerings (stock), and with that money buy faulty or broken computers, mark them down as new, and pretty much pocket the difference. Little schemes like these show the state of Greek industries and how they were able to destroy companies like Olympic Airlines and OTE

    Greek - Russian Relations

    in Let's talk about this

    Posted · Edited by CHE21QNS

    I can't believe what I am reading here!

    Are you guys a bunch of amerikanakia or what???

    A nationalist Russia always has been a natural ally of Greece and a natural enemy of Turkey. Those historic ties need to be cultivated.

    Russia may not be able to offer much at this point but, I think, if the chips were down, Russia would do us more good than the EU and the US.

     

     

    It is not certain that they would do us more good than the US and EU. I live in the US but anyone here who knows my posts know's I'm anything but an Amerikanaki. Fact of the matter is, even if aligning our selves with Russia was better, having bad relations with the US, NATO, and EU has the potential to be much more destructive for Greece. There will be a lot of western backlash if Greece decides to align itself with Russia and things can get very heated, very quickly, so Greece has to be careful not to make moves that are too sudden. Lets not let our personal opinions regarding the US and Russia interfere with our ability to judge which situation is best for Greece , or in this case less destructive. 

     

     

    I think it is good to have good relations with Russia. A natural gas pipeline, and allowing them to fix their ships in our yards can work to our advantage. Also having them in our back pocket when negotiating with the EU and EZ is essential. Other than that Greek society is too intertwined with the Western world. Fact of the matter is we are too dependent on them financially. Aside from our exposure to their financial institutions like their banking systems and stock markets, we depend on them for imports and exports. The biggest issues we will run into is problems with big Pharma companies who we are already having issues with because of the amounts of money we owe them. The EU has helped push these companies to continue supplying Greece as well as make many drugs cheaper for Greece to purchase.

     

    Lets look at the numbers:

     

     

    One of Greece's biggest problems is that we import TWICE as much as we export. Exports being at around 33 Billion and imports at around 60 billion (from 93 billion in 2009). 

     

    Here are the countries we rely the most heavily for our Exports: Turkey 11%, Italy 8%, Germany 6.4%, Bunkers 6% , Bulgaria 5%, and Romania, US, UK, Cyprus as well. (Turkey has gone up since the recession)

     

    Now Imports: Russia 11%, Germany 9.5%, Italy 8%, Saudi Arabia 5.1%, China 5%, France 5%, Netherlands 5% (Russia has gone up since the recession)

     

     

    Now the most important part in my eyes: After petroleum ( Around 35%)  the most important Greek Import is MEDICINE, which accounts for 7% of our imports. 

     

    Who exports the most Medicinal products??  Germany 14%, United States 11%, Switzerland 9%, France 8%, and UK 6-7% 

     

     

     

    So things aren't as simple as they may seem and if you analyze things long enough you will realize that acting too drastically has the potential to be destructive especially at a time where Greece is so vulnerable. The bottom line is an independent Greece (as well as most of the world) has never served the interests of the world powers. Our location is too strategic for any powerful country , even Russia to really be interested in our long term political independence. Their ultimate goal would be to spread their influence into the Mediterranean, and in essence if such a move is hastily made, you can make the mistake of trading one pimp for another (a possibly worse one at that).

     

    Great post AEK66, there is no place for romanticism in politics especially not in discussing this pseudo-brotherhood with the Serbs and Russians.  

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    Greek - Russian Relations

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    Posted · Edited by CHE21QNS

    Greece should cultivate closer ties with Russia and provide them with a base on one of our islands facing Turkey with plenty of anti-aircraft batteries. :rolleyes:

     

    That island also exists. It is called Crete haha In all seriousness Russia could be a huge asset especially considering their small rivalry with Turkey in recent years. But like Lazarus points out, oxi polla polla , only use them as a poker chip

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    The Greek Economy Thread

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    Greece is in the same position many US home owners found themselves in after the housing market crash of 2008. Insane interest rates that were given out at alarming rates, at a time of relative economic prosperity. Once the economy went south these mortgages were exposed for what they were: UNSUSTAINABLE. This is where Greece finds itself today: A home that doesn't generate enough money, run by a system that will never be able to outgrow its interest rate. The worlds elite economists have come out and declared that this debt is not payable or in Greek terms "Mh biwsimo". This debt will never be paid off, and the damages it inflicts on the economy will only worsen things. The governments of the past (predominantly Papandreou) were using 5th grade economics thinking you can just liquidate certain assets and fire sell other assets when your equity was a fraction of what it was pre-2009. 

     

     

    So to some extent Irlando is right. But where he is wrong is in believing that Greece as it is, in this moment in time, is capable of sustaining its own currency. The best case scenario right now is to use Russia and the Nazi war crimes as bargaining chips to achieve a debt renegotiation in which we trim off some of the existing debt, and trim the interest rate, to a size that allows for the economy to grow , and at the same time realistically pay back the debt within a certain time span. 

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    The Greek Economy Thread

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    Even in a barely functional state Greek banks play a big role in society, in Greece. A role that many don't consider. In Greece if you need to go pay your DEI, your phone bills, your general bills, get your pension, etc. EVERYTHING passes through the banks. Its almost scary how reliant the system is on the banking system. The public sector is a mess as it is, a lot of domestic reform needs to take place before such a change can take place, as I am afraid Greece is just not prepared to go off on their own right now. 

    The Greek Economy Thread

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    Posted · Edited by CHE21QNS

    Unfortunately guys it seems Greeks have declined into a state of wanting to have their cake and eat it too. Like Banana pointed out, they want their Euro but resist austerity or domestic reform for the most part. Others support the Drachma but don't have the slightest understanding of self sustainability, and will probably bitch and moan when they can no longer afford imported goods. The situation is much more complex than it seems.

     

    Like I was saying the other day, what is happening in Europe right now is just one giant game of poker. Europe is trying to bluff Greece into believing they will be just fine after a Grexit and Greece is trying to bluff Europe into think they don't need the west to prosper, and can turn to Russia and the Drachma for revival. Both are holding a 9 and a 2 and both are simply bluffing. Lets analyze this from both sides of the coin starting with Europe:

     

    Europe:  A) The first sign that things aren't as simple as a Grexit are in the fact that the US gets involved at all in the negotiation efforts. Just the mention of Russia not only threatens with economic change, but with geo-political change as well. Something the US and Europe cannot afford right now. With a Turkey that is growing closer and closer to their islamic roots , and a region with increasing signs of oil and natural resources, Greece finds itself in a very strategically important region in the world.

     

    B )The global economy at this moment in time is so volatile that WORDS alone can send the global markets into a tailspin. It is a theoretical bubble built on hope and perception. Observe the European (frankfurt especially), Greek, and US stock market long enough and you will see that just mentioning the word "Grexit" sends the stock market into days of RED. Warren Buffet and George Sorros for instance have the power to come out and make a statement regarding a Grexit and that alone can bring the market to its knees for days in a row. Tsipra's election was synonymous with a grexit and the next day Greek bank stocks lost 25%-35% of their value. 

     

    The moment Europe and Greece come close to a Grexit you are looking at panic selling all across the continent in every market and even in the US. Everyone who has invested in Greek debt is all of a sudden left with bags of sand. Anyone who invested in Greek banks or European Banks exposed to Greek debt will sell in a hurry to cut their losses. The value of the Euro will slump even further making imports more and more expensive and the cost of living in Europe even higher. This weariness will leak into Portugal, Spain, Ireland, and any other European nation who is on life support. Just the fear that will spread will take a long time to reverse.

     

    Greece: A) Soon as Greece commits to a Grexit and a return to the Drachma we are talking a total banking system collapse as Greeks will be running to their accounts to withdraw any Euro they can salvage. Bank stocks will plummet. With every printing of Drachmas the value will go down, making it almost impossible to import goods, with the most important short term catastrophe being pharmaceutical drugs and supplies. Who knows what the lack of funds in the public sector will spell in the first years of the drachma. 

     

    Bottom line is that Greece is not prepared for a return to the Drachma yet. Maybe One day? Possibly but the longer time passes an the deeper the recession gets the less likely it is. You need to be self sustainable and be able to get the maximum out of your exports and economy in order to make a transition into the Drachma work, departments that Greece is exponentially weaker in since 2008. Greek infrastructure is at an all time low. Greek manufacturing is at an all time low. Even one of Greece's biggest potential cash cows, its naval yards, are either shut down or on the verge of collapse. The Greek system is also not organized enough to make the best out of their currency. Anyone who has tried to get something as simple as an AFM can vouch for a public sector and system stranded 50 years in the past. How are people going to get paid in a sufficient manner? Everything in Greece is paid through the banks , is the system organized enough to fill in this void when there's no money to bailout banks? Will Tsipra make the needed changes like upgrading our computer systems or appease the unions that make sure were stuck in the dark ages so their members keep their salaries? 

     

    To be honest I don't think the current Greeks have the will power to resurrect Greece from the first brutal years under the Drachma.  

    Aek - Iraklis

    in AEK FC

    Posted

    I think it would be a bigger risk putting Cordero by himself, but with Johanson next to him, he'll have some room to add to our attack as well as our defense. At the end of the day I think we can get bitten in the ass committing too many players forward against a team that is quick and relies on counterattacks. Were better off pressing and balancing our strengths equally with emphasis on the midfield. I think Zorits and Chrisantho are a bigger risk to be honest. 

    Aek - Iraklis

    in AEK FC

    Posted

    I like Chrisantus and Zoric but objectively speaking Zoric has had 2 good games and before that had a long streak of bad games. I think he is a liability in such a crucial game for a few reasons. One is his composure when in tough situations, and the most important reason is his pace, something that I feel can burn us with Hraklh as they are a fast team and a team that relies on the counter. Couple Zoric with Chrisantus and our attack is two notches slower, not only limiting our pressing (one of our strong points), and out counters, but also leaving us susceptible to their counter. I think its good to have them against the weaker teams, but against Hraklh you have to be able to show versatility and thus far these players have shown they are good under limited circumstances.   

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    Aek - Iraklis

    in AEK FC

    Posted · Edited by CHE21QNS

    I would go with this:

     

     

    .....................Anesti/Voura

     

    Bak........Kolobetsio............Tzane.......Soil

    ..............Cordero......Johanson......................

    Platella............Anakoglou................Barbosa

    .........................Aravas...................................

     

     

    Their counter attacks are deadly so we need both Cordero and Johanson back there. Also I think Kolovetsio is better than Lampropoulo and with some games he'll be back to pre-injury form. Zoric I think is good but too sluggish at points and can get exposed by Hraklh's speed.

     

    In the event that our players cant find Aravidi, we can take Cordero out, pull back Anakoglou, move Barbosa over to the 10ari, put Arava on the wing, and throw in D'acol or Krisantus. Johanson has been our most in form player so he very well may be able to control our DM positions alone. 

     

    As for Goalie, Hraklh is also good on their set pieces. I'm afraid Anesth might be a liability. 

    Aek - Iraklis

    in AEK FC

    Posted

    Two of the best run teams in Greece right now. Both with a lot of young potential and both showed they can go toe to toe with Superleague teams. I think AEK has the edge even without Mandalo. I think its time to throw Cordero back into the mix and let him work his magic. 

     

    I predict a 2-0 or 2-1

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    Paok - Xanthi

    in PAOK FC

    Posted

    Tzavella played one or two good seasons and has been riding the train of mediocrity ever since. Along with Maniati and once upon a time Spyropoulo. Players like these make me wonder what kind of connection they have, that keeps them from playing B division soccer, where they belong.

    AEK Transfer Talk

    in AEK FC

    Posted

    D'acol is most likely out, Rova actually has another year on his contract, so I doubt he'll be out. Sarri , there's no point in loaning him out at his age, but he'll probably be loaned out as a way to keep him till his contract expires. As for Faye, I think he has a lot of potential, so i hope they loan him out to an A division side or to another country. Would hate to see him stay in B division. 

    AEK Transfer Talk

    in AEK FC

    Posted · Edited by CHE21QNS

    I really want Gianniota too. Back when everyone was salivating over Katidi I felt the true star of that National team squad was gianniota. The only one who put up a fight against the spaniards. Will be a big blow if we lose him to Olympiako, especially after losing Fortouni. Kourmpeli would be a luxury at this point but he can also help. Goutas would also be a great addition to our squad with a lot of experience since he was 18. 

     

    What ever happened to Sa?

     

    I really emphasize though the need to keep the core of this team and not pull a 2007-2013 maneuver and switch in 10 players for another 10. With 4-5 first class additions to the squad we are perfect. We do however have to get rid of players as well.

     

    My out list:

     

    - Sarris - Has shown to be a liability, and even in his best days didn't show us he could be a star.

    - D'acol- Love the guy, good player, but again, Not the type of player who will help us fight for a title. Ultimately it depends on how Brecevic gets back in action as well, as we could use D'acol if Brecevic can't live up to the player he has shown he could be. Age is also an issue.

    - At least one goal keeper need to be demoted or has to go. We have 4 right now (Voura, Ntouni, Anesti, Karagkiolidi) We need to make way for an experience keeper. Honestly we haven't seen much of anyone other than Anesti and to be honest the only thing keeping me from OUTRIGHT saying TO POULO, is the fact that he's young and has physical attributes that can come in handy. Other than that he's terrible, but at the same time hwo knows if the other guys are worse. Voura seems pretty good but who knows.

    - Maybe Rova- Love this guy too, love his post match comments, love his passion. I also should add tha tif he continues to progress at his rate he too can help next season, and he can also play more than one position. If he doesn't progress then I think he needs to go as he is also 31 years old.

    - Maybe Fouli- I almost am ashamed to say this but the time has to come at some point. I think he deserves to be with us our first year back in the league. As far as getting into Agia Sofia, I don't see it happening at this rate as he is 38 now, so if he can't offer help to the team going into the winter transfer window I think it'll be time to have an honorary tribute friendly and put him in the history books like the legend he is. 

     

     

    What are your thoughts guys?

    Aek Vs Alimos

    in AEK FC

    Posted

    Greekfreek I agree. Once he gets the pressure of feeling like Messi off his shoulders he's going to help out big time. You guys are probably right, acquiring someone in his position to challenge him can certainly give him a wake up call.

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