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    . The bankers will simply get up and go to Asia whilst the rest suffer. I suppose you remember when you didn't have 28 days (inc bank holidays) of paid leave, I wouldn't be surprised if that sort of thing returns.

    Thats already happened mate with all these zero hour contracts, sports direct, amazon and starbucks all have horrific working conditions already, infact starbucks book their employees off duty during quiet periods and then back on again when it gets busy, they get away with it because of an infinite supply of cheap overseas labour, as for the bankers, the swine who time after time are embroiled in things like laundering drug money, fixing the LIBOR rate and being bailed when their gambles don't come off, they can piss off to Asia today as far as i'm concerned, no one will suffer if these swine go.

     

     

     

    One of the easiest ways to get competitive will see real wages fall at the lower end. Which is what will happen,  you can change the narrative (by voting Brexit) but that becomes rather pointless when you don't change the author.

    The Swiss and Germans have higher wages than us yet they are very competitive. Besides a BREXIT vote was in no way an endorsement of the current (or any) UK government.

     

     

     

    We indeed do have a remainer PM, in fact in three years time we will probably see that the UK are still in the EU.

    Make that 10 years time, they don't want to leave, the referendum is not legally binding and it was not legally binding for a reason. 

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     Most of the ignored referendums were at a national level, but again more rubbish to forward your misinformed agenda.  I already showed you the EU's democracy, but you still can't make a relevant counter argumen

    When the Dutch and French voters rejected the EU constitution the EU changed it to a 'treaty' which was pretty much the same as the EU constitution, when this treaty - now the Lisbon treaty - needed to be ratified by Ireland Irish voters rejected it, so they were made to vote again until they voted correctly. 

    No other EU state even bothered to give their people a referendum with regard to this treaty.

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    So what is happening now? It appears that all the rats are jumping ship now that life in UK is becoming uncertain

    Johnson a Bullingdon boy the same time as Cameron and Georgie boy was never really pro Brexit he always hinted at using this result to get a better deal and stay in, Farage had no chance of ever being in a position to negotiate Britains exit so quitting UKIP makes no odds.

     

    I think a more appropriate description of "rats jumping ship' would be to describe those leaving Greece/Ireland/Portugal/Italy and Spain to look for work elsewhere as their own countries are all 'sinking' despite all being members of this wonderful club who have imposed austerity on them. And as members of the EU we can't stop them from coming to the UK and competing with us in the job market.

    Its strange how people still want to come here and are not leaving despite 'life in the UK becoming uncertain' 

     

    Besides like I said earlier the EU doesn't do democracy and has a history of ignoring referendums and the UK government has no desire to leave which is why they haven't triggered article 50 of the Lisbon treaty.

  4. No the bulk of the media coverage was not of favour in staying in. The Sun, Express, Daily Mail, Star and Telegraph to name a few were pro Brexit.  All television channels reporting news were neutral. The Sun and Mail being the most circulated newspapers in the country.  The conservative party was neutral on Brexit. Labour, Greens, Lib Dem, SNP in favour of remaining. UKIP, DUP in favour of Brexit.

    http://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/news/study-shows-majority-press-coverage-eu-referendum-campaign-was-heavily-skewed-favour-brexit

    The BBC is  neutral. If you ask a left winger, they will call it right wing. Ask a right winger, they will call it left wing.

    The leave campaign put a note through my door highlighting Turkey, Iraq and Syria, something about

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    Many Brits didn't fully understand the details of what the EU membership entailed. I'm not saying they didn't have the right to say they want out, but I also think the vote was based on misinformation and on many levels of dissatisfaction with own economic status, against globalization, against the economic elites, immigration and fear of refugees, the struggling middle, lower classes, etc.

    Is that not also the case for those that voted to stay in? Wasn't the bulk of media coverage in favour of staying in? Wasn't every single political party (besides UKIP) trying to persuade the public to vote remain? Yet you say that many Brits who voted out did so through a lack of understanding, which is exactly the same case nearly all political 'journalists' and the impartial(EU funded) BBC are making. 

    The UK government even used taxpayers money to post to every house in the UK a leaflet detailing all the wonderful benefits of remaining, is it not patronising to suggest that those that voted out did so through ignorance or a lack of understanding? This is the media narrative we're hearing now in the UK, surprised to read that here also. 

    Misinformation occurred on both sides, however the remain side had the bulk of the coverage.

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  6. It doesn't much matter whether you respect the way the global financial world works or not. The fact of the matter is that the cost of borrowing and doing business is going to be higher for the UK under such circumstances. In plain English, ordinary folks are going to be asked to contribute millions (or maybe billions) to this surcharge (through the taxes they are paying), when it didn't need to happen (or maybe should I say it's not going to accomplish what was promised. It was never going to.) Their taxes will now go to paying off higher interest rates instead of building schools and fixing roads.

     

    Maybe you don't understand the meaning of the word 'power', that's why you use it so loosely. Mr.(dickhead) Farage is a political figure that influences public opinion with his bullcrap. Do you need more?

     

    You may do what ever pleases you. If you get tired of cheering, try that ding-a-ling. That will surely please you (I'm talking from personal experience).

    No I don't respect a global financial system that makes money out of thin air and lends it to governments with interest that is never created, its just one big debt cycle designed to keep nations in debt, its pretty much why every country is in debt, in plain English the UK contributes far more in

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  7. According to many news media, Nigel Farrage is a populist, racist, fascist, arrogant dickhead! And I'm assuming all you guys that like him are pretty much aware of what he stands for, correct? Just asking.

     

    Because according to me, I agree with them that Nigel Farrage is a populist, racist, fascist, arrogant dickhead that is going to cost the UK dearly (if it's still the UK in 10 years).

     

    I'm also assuming that all you Brexiters are following the news and are celebrating the rewards that started pouring in:

    UK stripped of final 'AAA' rating and FTSE 350 surrenders

  8. The EU take no notice of referendums, which has been proved time and time again, Boris Johnson says there is no rush to invoke article 50 of the Lisbon treaty and set in motion the UKs exit right away despite Cameron pledging to invoke it immediately should Britain choose to vote out, its funny after a general election a government is formed immediately now Cameron said he'll leave it to his successor and Johnson doesn't seem to be in a rush either.  

     

    What will happen now is the media will go into overdrive to scare the population with stories of financial meltdown, old people voting out ruining young people's future etc etc, and in a year or 2 we will be told that concessions have been offered by the EU and to vote on these new terms which will lead to another vote. The EU have no intentions of letting Britain leave despite this result.

     

    Another amazing point was that every political party(besides UKIP) were in favour of staying, nearly all major corporations were too as were the unions whose role it is to protect workers from these very same corporations and some of the disgraceful behaviour by so called liberals in the media after the murder of Jo Cox blaming right wing brexit campaigners for their 'rhetoric and vitriol' its amazing people still voted out.

    All these economists were for staying in, all these 'independent' think tanks (who if you do any research you'll find receive EU funding - as does the 'impartial' BBC) were warning against brexit even Mark Carney - who as chief of the bank of England his role forbids him from making his opinion public pined in warning against brexit. 

    Now Moody's has downgraded Britains credit rating, the very Moody's who gave triple A ratings to toxic assets that caused the collapse in 08 and we're now supposed to take their credit rating seriously as they are 'experts'. 

     

    Good on the Brits for voting out, but understand they'll never be allowed to leave, the EU doesn't do democracy. 

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    Athens. The Russian Sukhoi Su-24M bomber was brought down by the Turkish Air Force in Syrian airspace, Greek Minister of National Defense Panos Kammenos said in an interview to the Mega TV channel on Wednesday, TASSreported.

    "The attack (on Su-24M) took place in Syrian airspace. This is beyond doubt," he said. "The Turkish side knows that, otherwise Ankara would ask to invoke Article 5 of the NATO Charter, requesting the Alliance?s help."

    "This is undoubtedly a military action in the territory of another state," Kammenos said. "But even more important point is the murder of the pilot, who was shot dead by members of the Turkish extremist group Grey Wolves."

    Asked which side Greece should take, as a NATO member, the minister said - "the truth". "If Russia had violated Turkish airspace, we would support Ankara", the defense minister said.

    An F-16 fighter jet of the Turkish Air Force shot down Russia?s Su-24M bomber on Tuesday, November 24. Ankara claims the Su-24M bomber violated the Turkish airspace in the area of the border with Syria. However, Russia?s Defense Ministry has said the Su-24M plane stayed exclusively over the Syrian territory and "there was no violation of the Turkish air space."

    http://www.focus-fen.net/news/2015/12/02/391300/greek-defense-ministry-confirms-russian-su-24m-bomber-was-downed-in-syrian-airspace.html

  10.  - the earlier post is easily understood. the blatant infringements - by air or sea, we keep our hands in our pockets. i have no issue with taking down an intruder 20 miles in - the lower percentage violations...though apparently, greece does? the bulk of infringements which do test the '10x6' arguments, chances are the powers make us both go to an intl. court if we shoot something down and we may lose. hence, it's understandable if greece wishes to avoid such, orders have been given not to shoot them down.

     

    i don't understand intl. law to form and argue a position one way or another...i won't pretend to...but powerful people in greece have expressed their opinion that we will probably lose our argument.

     

     

    defeatism 101...victim complex 201. who is the usless nation between turkey and cyprus and cyprus hasn't won recent cases due to not having the law on their side or they are more useful than turkey??? they can't be, because you are inferring that turkey is clearly more useful than greece...unless cyprus is more useful than all?

     

    my issue would be who would enforce a decision? we have seen turkey snub it's nose at eu courts' decisions.

     

    i'm not a fan of recent greek geopolitical moves and once again, the great greek lao is starting to try and steer the govt. into russia's camp on this. clearly a loser, from all angles. the russians don't want a war for a ridiculous reason (but they are cultivating a moscow/damascus/tehran triangle - hey, where's athens??) that they can't win and the greeks will successfully plead and chant russia into war?

    NO one is suggesting they want Russia to bomb Turkey, at least I wasn't, the point is with the goings on in Syria Turkey is more useful to NATO than Greece and are allies to the US and UK, Greece are irrelevant and are treated as such, Cyprus' geographical position makes them very useful but regardless of who 'owns' Cyprus the British bases will remain and the UK will use the Island as they please. 

     

     

     

    as far as the rest, if saddam and gaddhafi are still in power and assad is left alone...yes, there is probably no isis. yet, any anti-nato/anti-usa poster would be posting about hypocritical nato allowing those despots to thrive, steal, kill and intimidate - as some posts now complain about the saudis.

    Oh I see, anyone that points out NATOs atrocities is an 'anti NATO poster' after all they're trying their best and can't export democracy everywhere. They've destroyed Libya and Iraq and are attempting to do the same in Syria but as we do business with other regimes which are far worse than Assad and we prop them up. It's funny Assad has been in power since around 2000 yet only in the last couple of years have people began too flee his regime, perhaps its NATO they're fleeing, just like in Libya.

    None of these countries were a threat to NATO or any of its members, the only reason i pointed out Saudi's Bahrain etc is precisely because of NATOs policy of intervening in the name of so called democracy. 

    But hey what do I know I'm just an irrational anti NATO poster so I would say that wouldn't I. 

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    that is nato x nato, not nato x russia. i would suspect that the bigger nato powers would coerce both nations to go to intl. court to settle the dispute (10x6) once and for all, or, one or the other would have to get the boot from nato. you can't have alliance members shooting each other's planes down.

    Perhaps Greece could test your theory by violating Turkish airspace, besides in an earlier post you blamed Greece for sitting on their hands allowing Turkey's violations. 

    I doubt an international court would be required, the less useful nation would be told in no uncertain terms what the outcome would be, and in this case we know who that is. 

     

    for the most part, our modern politicians have been schooled in evil nato nations, yet, make puzzling geopolitical decisions. the politicians aren't dummies, to keep getting elected and to continue enjoying candlelight suppers at the treasury's expense, they need to make the great greek lao happy.

     

    making them happy is kissing serbia's and russia's collective popo.

    You don't need to be smart to be an elected Greek politician(just lie well), Tsiparas is living proof, besides elections in Greece are meaningless as are referendums, why vote when those you are electing are not contractually obliged to do what they profess? Again Tsiparas is living proof, doesn't say much about voters really does it.

    The point I was attempting to make is the hypocrisy in NATO and how it takes the moral high ground I find reprehensible.

     

    Quick question, if 2 years ago(before anyone had heard of ISIS) parliament hadn't blocked Cameron's attempts to bomb Syria, what would Syria look like today? My guess would be it would be another failed state like Libya. Remember the guys we were itching to assist 2 years ago those anti Assad forces have spawned into ISIS, Cameron wanted 'our boys' to fight alongside them.

    Fast forward a couple of years UK France and the US are itching to bomb again, this time ISIS, but you can bet the real target is Assad, they want him out at all costs while they prop up other despotic regimes. 

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  12.  - greece does have the same right, it's greece itself that chooses to keep it's hands in it's pockets. poster gobekli, posted an article and interview with a top greek military officer who doubts that greece's '10x6' battle with turkey would hold up in intl. court, not kafeneio court of the 3 brikia. the majority of incidents occur in this grey zone.

     

    the other incidents of outright territory infringement...well, who do you blame? once again, are the americans handcuffing greece? is this who we blame because we can never blame greece for anything? syria shot down a turkish f-4 fighter a few years ago...they defended their airspace, so, why don't we? 

     

    as far as nato...those that protested the usa the other day in greece should form a peace and friendship delegation and go to poland, the baltics, romania, bulgaria, hungary, czech, slovakia and tell them they are all wrong about russia and have no idea how terrible things are under the usa umbrella and how things would be beautiful under the loving hand of moscow.

     

    we invented democracy so this means that we know better about their affairs their history than they do.

    So NATO is a force for good, the exporters of democracy whose role it is to police the world and keep those scheming Russians in check, it's now trying to export its democracy to Syria in order to remove a Russian puppet and install its own puppet, like in Ukraine and then they can tell the lao that it was an organic uprising against a dictator that's killing his own people while at the same time NATO members like the US & UK can continue to sell arms and cattle prods to dictatorships in Saudi Arabia Bahrain and Qatar to keep their very own protestors in check whilst screaming about other nations that are run by Russian puppets. 

     

    Can you imagine the outcry from the self pure peace loving nobel peace prize winner Barak Obomber and his NATO chums if Russia had conducted itself in the manner that the Saudi's are in Yemen with US and UK made equipment? Funny how we here nothing on the news about the slaughter of Yemenis by the Saudi military.  Obomber's and NATO don't seem to be too concerned about events there. 

     

    BTW There were protests recently against US military parades in Czech Republic Slovakia and Poland, just because these nations dislike Russia does not mean they want to align themselves with the 'west' and have to put up with the US army showing off their shiny new toys there. 

     

     

     

    Erdogan: 

    "We did not want this situation to happen, but everybody has to respect Turkey?s right to defend its borders,"

     

     

    Erdogan told his own parliament in 2012

     

    "A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack,

    http://sputniknews.com/military/20151125/1030698044/erdogan-airspace-violation-contradiction.html

     

     

    Maybe NATO would have defended Greece the way it has defended Turkey if Greece shot down a Turkish plane that violated Greek airspace for a few seconds. 

    You'd have to be naive to believe the AEK. 

  13. So Turkey shoots down a jet belonging to the mighty Russians with impunity but is it any surprise Turkey carries a lot of clout, they are the darlings of NATO and loved by the UK and US governments among others and they have NATO right behind them, a North Atlantic Treaty Organisation which has swallowed up members who are nowhere near the North Atlantic and have former Soviet States bordering Russia among their members despite the fact that NATO and the west gave Russia promises - cast iron guarantees - after the break up of the Soviet Union that NATO would not expand to Russia's borders, meanwhile its emerged that Turkey violated Greek airspace 2244 times in 2014 alone, given that there was only 365 days in 2014 by my maths that means in 2014 Turkey were in Greek airspace pretty much all day everyday, now the president of NATOs biggest and most powerful country has come out and said Turkey has a 'right to defend itself', shame Greece doesn't have that same right eh Barak ol'boy.

    Is it any wonder that the uneducated lazy Greek kafenio conspiracy type don't like Greece being part of NATO. 

     

    Another story has emerged alleging Erdogan's son is personally profiting hugely from sales of ISIS controlled oil, this was also alleged a while back by Turkish sources before Erdogans clamp down and prosecution of journalists recently. Erdogan is obviously not happy with Russia's airstrikes on ISIS targets as it may interfere with his family business.

     

    http://journal-neo.org/2015/08/24/erdogan-s-dirty-dangerous-isis-games/

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    The video above is highly edited for maximum effect. I don't know what number of refugees or econominc migrants behave like those animals in the video, but increasingly more Europeans are developing a negative view of such migration. 

     

    The issue i have isn't with a few behaving like animals what is of greater concern is

    1/ The determination of European elite attempting to force this on the indigenous people's of Europe

     

    2/ The labelling of 'racist' anyone who opposes and questions their agenda, legitimate questions like why are (according to official stats) around 72% of those coming to Europe men? And the other 28% made up of women and children. Nick Griffin was quite correct in his observations in the video when speaking to the European parliament only to be labelled 'intolerant' and (here we go again) 'racist'

     

    3/  The coercion of people through eduction/schooling and through media to establish a consensus which attempts to make people revel in their self purity and talk about 'tolerance' and accepting refugees and nonsense like 'European values' to the extent that people will line up at airports with placards welcoming and applauding(like sporting heroes) refugees(72%men if they were genuine in my opinion the percentages would be more even) despite the fact it will make their very own living standards and those of their fellow Europeans worse. 

     

    4/  Why when crimes are committed by refugees media don't report that they were carried out by so called refugees in order to prevent anti immigration sentiment.

     

    5/ Why are large numbers of these people being housed time and time again in tiny villages where you have a population of around 200 villagers are burdened  with up to 800 immigrants completely ruining their way of life and being told by their own mayor (in the video) that if they didn't like it they were 'free to leave'

    I don't suppose those wonderful self pure tolerent individuals applauding and celebrating the influx will be affected as much as those villagers. 

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